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Doomwaffles User ID: 7046463 Belgium 12/13/2011 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | verdict on the penalty was in Mons (Bergen), I don't know where they went after this. one was the case with the pakistani family and last week there was another case with afgani people, that one I think was in Antwerp [link to www.deredactie.be] jup, now I remember, this woman didn't make it, she died, the case with the Afgani people, the woman survived |
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Doomwaffles User ID: 7046463 Belgium 12/13/2011 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one guess is this : The attack comes a day after a Belgian court sentenced four members of a Pakistani family to prison for the murder of their law student daughter and sister in the country's first "honour killing" trial. It is definately not the first time that happened in Belgium, honor killings it happened before, it just never got classified as religiously based crime it got classified as premeditated murder the only difference in this case was that the whole family got ruled guilty |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6832392 Germany 12/13/2011 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one guess is this : The attack comes a day after a Belgian court sentenced four members of a Pakistani family to prison for the murder of their law student daughter and sister in the country's first "honour killing" trial. I see. Had similar killings here too recently. Then the nazi terrorists they "found". Now this, we'll see who did it. Crazy times... |
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peace.be User ID: 6717439 Belgium 12/13/2011 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one guess is this : The attack comes a day after a Belgian court sentenced four members of a Pakistani family to prison for the murder of their law student daughter and sister in the country's first "honour killing" trial. It is definately not the first time that happened in Belgium, honor killings it happened before, it just never got classified as religiously based crime it got classified as premeditated murder the only difference in this case was that the whole family got ruled guilty I'm just thinking in a sense that they tried to escape. The one perp didn't suicide, but was killed by police, the others ran (also one report talked of a woman among them). ps: 1 victim is a 2 yr old, fighting for its life atm. |
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Dirt Diver (OP) User ID: 7043733 Belgium 12/13/2011 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first report said one man(possibly two) started throwing grenades at a bus stop. then radio news said it might be related to people(untold number) trying to escape from the court in liege (which is on the same square as the bus stop) but why would they just throw grenades at a bus stop? if you escape you try to get away no? i do not think this qualifies as a diversion for busting out of the courtroom. that would just be nuts since there is a good chance you could just walk out of there. so no clue, from me anyway 2 or 3 perps still on the loose! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7040372 Germany 12/13/2011 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one guess is this : The attack comes a day after a Belgian court sentenced four members of a Pakistani family to prison for the murder of their law student daughter and sister in the country's first "honour killing" trial. I see. Had similar killings here too recently. Then the nazi terrorists they "found". Now this, we'll see who did it. Crazy times... I don't agree. Completely different case here. Several killings over years, now connected to a nazi 'terror' group with intel involvemet. They didn't investigate the killings thoroughly then because they thougt these were mafia killings, which seem to be tolerated in Germany. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6832392 Germany 12/13/2011 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't agree. Completely different case here. Several killings over years, now connected to a nazi 'terror' group with intel involvemet. They didn't investigate the killings thoroughly then because they thougt these were mafia killings, which seem to be tolerated in Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7040372 Wasn't trying to connect the cases, just stated that these are crazy times... |
Doomwaffles User ID: 7046463 Belgium 12/13/2011 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one guess is this : The attack comes a day after a Belgian court sentenced four members of a Pakistani family to prison for the murder of their law student daughter and sister in the country's first "honour killing" trial. I see. Had similar killings here too recently. Then the nazi terrorists they "found". Now this, we'll see who did it. Crazy times... I don't agree. Completely different case here. Several killings over years, now connected to a nazi 'terror' group with intel involvemet. They didn't investigate the killings thoroughly then because they thougt these were mafia killings, which seem to be tolerated in Germany. with crimes like this , that cause civil uproar, they just want to find a person they can pin it to the question of the crime being solved and the real criminal being brought to justice is a very hollowed out idea they just want to pin it on someone to give the idea that justice has been served (meaning: stop civil unrest) Last Edited by Brussel Sprouts are bitter on 12/13/2011 08:52 AM |
peace.be User ID: 6717439 Belgium 12/13/2011 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of two or more assailants threw stun grenades into the courthouse while another was hurled at a bus shelter, RTL-TV1 said. Shots were fired across the square by gunmen posted on the rooftop of a bakery shop, with further shots heard later from across town. Police cordoned off the square and gave chase to the assailants, one of whom was reportedly killed. The gunmen are thought to be hiding in Liege cathedral. Live state television news NOW: [link to www.deredactie.be] Last Edited by peace.be on 12/13/2011 08:54 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7040372 Germany 12/13/2011 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: peace.be one guess is this : The attack comes a day after a Belgian court sentenced four members of a Pakistani family to prison for the murder of their law student daughter and sister in the country's first "honour killing" trial. I see. Had similar killings here too recently. Then the nazi terrorists they "found". Now this, we'll see who did it. Crazy times... I don't agree. Completely different case here. Several killings over years, now connected to a nazi 'terror' group with intel involvemet. They didn't investigate the killings thoroughly then because they thougt these were mafia killings, which seem to be tolerated in Germany. with crimes like this , that cause civil uproar, they just want to find a person they can pin it to the question of the crime being solved and the real criminal being brought to justice is a very hollowed out idea they just want to pin it on someone to give the idea that justice has been served (meaning: stop civil unrest) There was no civil uproar before. Some turkish and greek small business owners were killed, years ago. I think the connection to the nazis is related to the introduction of new laws for monitoring extremists. |
Doomwaffles User ID: 7046463 Belgium 12/13/2011 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yet western europe was so anxious to have cheap labor. Quoting: Orsolja I guess it isn't so cheap. Everything has a price, whether money or blood or both. cheap labour?! majority of immigrants are on benefits ! In fact I can't name anyone that asked them to come here in fact its costing us more than it gains we as a country are plainly masochistical! Last Edited by Brussel Sprouts are bitter on 12/13/2011 09:04 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7040372 Germany 12/13/2011 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't agree. Completely different case here. Several killings over years, now connected to a nazi 'terror' group with intel involvemet. They didn't investigate the killings thoroughly then because they thougt these were mafia killings, which seem to be tolerated in Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7040372 Wasn't trying to connect the cases, just stated that these are crazy times... yes, indeed |
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Doomwaffles User ID: 7046463 Belgium 12/13/2011 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6832392 I see. Had similar killings here too recently. Then the nazi terrorists they "found". Now this, we'll see who did it. Crazy times... I don't agree. Completely different case here. Several killings over years, now connected to a nazi 'terror' group with intel involvemet. They didn't investigate the killings thoroughly then because they thougt these were mafia killings, which seem to be tolerated in Germany. with crimes like this , that cause civil uproar, they just want to find a person they can pin it to the question of the crime being solved and the real criminal being brought to justice is a very hollowed out idea they just want to pin it on someone to give the idea that justice has been served (meaning: stop civil unrest) There was no civil uproar before. Some turkish and greek small business owners were killed, years ago. I think the connection to the nazis is related to the introduction of new laws for monitoring extremists. my mistake ; -potential- civil uproar |
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