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Massive Methane LEAK in Arctic sea - the End is Nigh

 
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After all of these years thinking it would come from Antarctica, I was shocked recently to hear about all of the 'random' releases...seemingly 'all at once.'

Starting about this time last year, I began monitoring the daily RSOE posts which reported the increasing instances of odd animal die-offs. Yet, even after seeing a program regarding an event at a village in Africa that highlighted this very problem, I never put two and two together.

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If I am not mistaken, I have heard that what is happening in our lower lattitudes has to do with dying/dead portions of a body of water, correct? Yet, in the colder regions, there are both old/trapped areas, along with new, is that right?

Does any particular time of year exacerbate this problem, or, can it be expected to continue straight-through the year?


Would I have to worry much about living where I do, close to the end of a channel used for shipping, which empties into NY Harbor? Meaning, this water is pretty much constantly flowing? (I am about 1000' inland, 100' elevation, more or less.)

Furthermore, should compromised areas upstream become heavily flooded, say after a drought, could that lead to volitile run-off passing through, releasing toxic gases my way, especially if there is heavy cloud cover?

Lot's of questions, but, there seems to be a number of knowledgeable posters on this thread.


Thanks.

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So it´s a big fart from the earf?
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Siphon it out and put into car tank
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Methane burp! Which was is the wind blowing?
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The Earth farts just as we do. Don't worry....unless its a diarrhea fart. Just sayin'
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A 1km methane leak accounts as 1/510000000

The Earth surface area is 510 million km^2

Assuming there are at least 1000 leaks, and all are about 1km square. That would be 0.0002% of surface area.

Considering the Earths atmosphere 4,200,000,000 cubic km. It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.

However, should the oceans encounter a globally universal environment where the methane build up is released simultaneously......well, then were in trouble.
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You don't really grasp the problem. It's the hydrogen sulfide, which is produced when ancient anaerobic bacteria eat methane or biomatter. There is as much methane in the methane hydrates as all the gas and oil reserves on the planet combined. There is also a HUGE amount of biomass in the oceans which - if you hadn't noticed - are ALREADY dying.

There is enough methane and biomass out there to thoroughly poison the atmosphere. Hydrogen sulfide is lethal in 1 part per thousand. One or two breathes and you're history. In lower concentrations it knocks you unconscious, like those 22 Houston students, those 136 Cambodian students, the 5 near Boston, the 60-ish Zappos workers, the family of 5 that sickened in their car in Kentucky this past week, and on and on. Our atmosphere is getting poisoned RIGHT NOW.

It's also a highly flammable gas, and it's heavier than air. Remember those raging Russian fires in 2010? That was also the year the Gulf circulation stalled, making the dead zones grow in size and potency. And now this past year fires all over, from CA to FLA and everywhere in between, and Russia again, and Mexico, and South America, and Australia.

And people are dropping dead from it. 3 corpses found on MSU grounds in a 10-day span of time recently. The guy in the Reno fire who stepped outside to evacuate and immediately dropped dead. The family of four found dead in their pool and bathtub in San Diego. The family of four found dead in their home in the UK last week. It goes on and on and on, corpses everywhere. They're dying in homes all around you, I'm sure, but it looks just like a heart attack, or 'natural causes', and leaves no real trace, no smoking gun, unless the autopsy is done quickly AND the ME knows what to look for - doubtful.

This extinction event has happened before. Here's a science article that ties things together pretty well, though I'm sure the author hoped fervently not to be proven so accurate in his lifetime:

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

This is why the super-rich are building bunkers in the Himalayas - to minimize dealing with the invisible waves of lethal heavier-than-air gas that is even now building up in our atmosphere.

Oh, as if flammable poison gas wasn't enough to deal with, it's also reacting away our ozone layer, like so: H2S + O3 => H2O + O2 + S. Noticed the Sun getting brighter this past year? Those schoolkids that got 'flash-burned' in Louisiana on an INDOOR field-trip to another school in JANUARY sure noticed. And seals and dolphins are showing up with lesions. That's not from Fukushima. That's from the SUN, as our ozone layer is reacted away to nothing. Noticed all the white buffalos and other albinos, and the four-armed kids, and two-headed turtles and snakes of late? Mutation rates are spiking now, from the increasing UV levels.

Basically, you're gonna need a backup atmosphere, soon.

There is ONE positive here: the unemployment rate should drop as people die off. Well, lo and behold, it just dropped a half point. What was the explanation? That a bunch of people 'unexpectedly dropped out of the work force'. Uh huh, yeah, because they unexpectedly dropped out of BEING ALIVE.
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I've always thought many of the mass animal die-offs were due to methane.
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Light it up.
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Sure, and maybe get something like this again

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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One of the oldest ELE's on this planet was caused by methane leaking in this exact area. Look it up.
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Hey GLP! Here's something insanely topical that I grabbed from another forum, discussing the same Methane Release:

[link to www.mangafox.com]

READ IT!

(Seriously).
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[link to news.softpedia.com]

At least this shows they are watching the levels.

The latest predictions by NOAA show that permafrost surfaces are expected to shrink by 30 to 60 percent by 2200. This process would release vast amounts of CO2 and methane in the atmosphere.

It may be sooner than 2200 though, they say the permafrost is melting much faster than expected.
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That is bad, bad news. Methane is what ancient anaerobic bacteria in the 'dead zones' of the oceans eat, which spew hydrogen sulfide. That will provide them a nigh limitless supply of food, and when bacteria have limitless food...

Well, I was hoping for a while that we could mine the methane hydrates, use them as an energy source. Burning it converts it into CO2, not good, but better than methane and waaaaay better than hydrogen sulfide. But it's too late for that, obviously; no time to ramp up infrastrucure for that now.

So, what are the choices? We could arm subs with powerful lasers and purposely detonate the methane hydrate deposits as they begin to dissociate (melt). That would produce some HUGE explosions. I kinda wonder if that wasn't what caused that Virginia quake. Not sure we have enough subs though. We could use nukes too, and that'd probably burn off the methane more effectively, but has the obvious drawback of needing to nuke most of the coastlines in the northern hemisphere (which is where most methane hydrate deposits are located).

Or we could just let the Earth do her thing, as she has before, and then we end up with a deadly poisonous and explosively flammable atmosphere for the next few million years.

Tough call there.
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I thought it turns to to CO2 when it hits the atmosphere,
NO?

Ok, I got it. methane - a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide as far as greenhouse gas effect goes.

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Aliens have been geoengineering the planet for a long time still people are blind and now its too late.
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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A 1km methane leak accounts as 1/510000000

The Earth surface area is 510 million km^2

Assuming there are at least 1000 leaks, and all are about 1km square. That would be 0.0002% of surface area.

Considering the Earths atmosphere 4,200,000,000 cubic km. It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.

However, should the oceans encounter a globally universal environment where the methane build up is released simultaneously......well, then were in trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405546


You don't really grasp the problem. It's the hydrogen sulfide, which is produced when ancient anaerobic bacteria eat methane or biomatter. There is as much methane in the methane hydrates as all the gas and oil reserves on the planet combined. There is also a HUGE amount of biomass in the oceans which - if you hadn't noticed - are ALREADY dying.

There is enough methane and biomass out there to thoroughly poison the atmosphere. Hydrogen sulfide is lethal in 1 part per thousand. One or two breathes and you're history. In lower concentrations it knocks you unconscious, like those 22 Houston students, those 136 Cambodian students, the 5 near Boston, the 60-ish Zappos workers, the family of 5 that sickened in their car in Kentucky this past week, and on and on. Our atmosphere is getting poisoned RIGHT NOW.

It's also a highly flammable gas, and it's heavier than air. Remember those raging Russian fires in 2010? That was also the year the Gulf circulation stalled, making the dead zones grow in size and potency. And now this past year fires all over, from CA to FLA and everywhere in between, and Russia again, and Mexico, and South America, and Australia.

And people are dropping dead from it. 3 corpses found on MSU grounds in a 10-day span of time recently. The guy in the Reno fire who stepped outside to evacuate and immediately dropped dead. The family of four found dead in their pool and bathtub in San Diego. The family of four found dead in their home in the UK last week. It goes on and on and on, corpses everywhere. They're dying in homes all around you, I'm sure, but it looks just like a heart attack, or 'natural causes', and leaves no real trace, no smoking gun, unless the autopsy is done quickly AND the ME knows what to look for - doubtful.

This extinction event has happened before. Here's a science article that ties things together pretty well, though I'm sure the author hoped fervently not to be proven so accurate in his lifetime:

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

This is why the super-rich are building bunkers in the Himalayas - to minimize dealing with the invisible waves of lethal heavier-than-air gas that is even now building up in our atmosphere.

Oh, as if flammable poison gas wasn't enough to deal with, it's also reacting away our ozone layer, like so: H2S + O3 => H2O + O2 + S. Noticed the Sun getting brighter this past year? Those schoolkids that got 'flash-burned' in Louisiana on an INDOOR field-trip to another school in JANUARY sure noticed. And seals and dolphins are showing up with lesions. That's not from Fukushima. That's from the SUN, as our ozone layer is reacted away to nothing. Noticed all the white buffalos and other albinos, and the four-armed kids, and two-headed turtles and snakes of late? Mutation rates are spiking now, from the increasing UV levels.

Basically, you're gonna need a backup atmosphere, soon.

There is ONE positive here: the unemployment rate should drop as people die off. Well, lo and behold, it just dropped a half point. What was the explanation? That a bunch of people 'unexpectedly dropped out of the work force'. Uh huh, yeah, because they unexpectedly dropped out of BEING ALIVE.
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Holy radioactive shiite, Batman!!!!! My family and I have been talking this past year about how bright the sun seems now and whether it had anything to do with the ozone layer being depleted. I wonder if this is the real reason for the chemtrail spraying.

So....how long do you figure we have? After reading this, I'm about to have my own personal methane event.
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Light it up.
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Sure, and maybe get something like this again

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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That doesn't look too bad at all.

Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow needs to leave the "Door to Hell" alone, though.
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What level is safe?
The upper safety limit for atmospheric CO2 is 350 parts per million (ppm). Atmospheric CO2 levels have stayed higher than 350 ppm since early 1988

[link to co2now.org]

Might be an interesting site to bookmark...
Open mind required !

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cool doom..........dah, but where do we get the sulfur to make it work?

can't even buy sulfur anymore cause the feds think you might make black powder with it
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Oh please Jesus, Mohammad, Krishna, Buddha, Yueshua, and any other deity thats out there let this be true. We beg of you to destroy the earth with fire. Please consume the sheeple with an almighty flame, consume their stupid bodies with a methane fire. Thank you in advance.
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Well this thread gives me more insight to what is going on, now that I started the research...and certainly makes more sense, than nibiru, or aliens.
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A 1km methane leak accounts as 1/510000000

The Earth surface area is 510 million km^2

Assuming there are at least 1000 leaks, and all are about 1km square. That would be 0.0002% of surface area.

Considering the Earths atmosphere 4,200,000,000 cubic km. It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.

However, should the oceans encounter a globally universal environment where the methane build up is released simultaneously......well, then were in trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405546


You don't really grasp the problem. It's the hydrogen sulfide, which is produced when ancient anaerobic bacteria eat methane or biomatter. There is as much methane in the methane hydrates as all the gas and oil reserves on the planet combined. There is also a HUGE amount of biomass in the oceans which - if you hadn't noticed - are ALREADY dying.

There is enough methane and biomass out there to thoroughly poison the atmosphere. Hydrogen sulfide is lethal in 1 part per thousand. One or two breathes and you're history. In lower concentrations it knocks you unconscious, like those 22 Houston students, those 136 Cambodian students, the 5 near Boston, the 60-ish Zappos workers, the family of 5 that sickened in their car in Kentucky this past week, and on and on. Our atmosphere is getting poisoned RIGHT NOW.

It's also a highly flammable gas, and it's heavier than air. Remember those raging Russian fires in 2010? That was also the year the Gulf circulation stalled, making the dead zones grow in size and potency. And now this past year fires all over, from CA to FLA and everywhere in between, and Russia again, and Mexico, and South America, and Australia.

And people are dropping dead from it. 3 corpses found on MSU grounds in a 10-day span of time recently. The guy in the Reno fire who stepped outside to evacuate and immediately dropped dead. The family of four found dead in their pool and bathtub in San Diego. The family of four found dead in their home in the UK last week. It goes on and on and on, corpses everywhere. They're dying in homes all around you, I'm sure, but it looks just like a heart attack, or 'natural causes', and leaves no real trace, no smoking gun, unless the autopsy is done quickly AND the ME knows what to look for - doubtful.

This extinction event has happened before. Here's a science article that ties things together pretty well, though I'm sure the author hoped fervently not to be proven so accurate in his lifetime:

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

This is why the super-rich are building bunkers in the Himalayas - to minimize dealing with the invisible waves of lethal heavier-than-air gas that is even now building up in our atmosphere.

Oh, as if flammable poison gas wasn't enough to deal with, it's also reacting away our ozone layer, like so: H2S + O3 => H2O + O2 + S. Noticed the Sun getting brighter this past year? Those schoolkids that got 'flash-burned' in Louisiana on an INDOOR field-trip to another school in JANUARY sure noticed. And seals and dolphins are showing up with lesions. That's not from Fukushima. That's from the SUN, as our ozone layer is reacted away to nothing. Noticed all the white buffalos and other albinos, and the four-armed kids, and two-headed turtles and snakes of late? Mutation rates are spiking now, from the increasing UV levels.

Basically, you're gonna need a backup atmosphere, soon.

There is ONE positive here: the unemployment rate should drop as people die off. Well, lo and behold, it just dropped a half point. What was the explanation? That a bunch of people 'unexpectedly dropped out of the work force'. Uh huh, yeah, because they unexpectedly dropped out of BEING ALIVE.
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I remember you discussing this topic a week or so ago. I know nothing about it but you certainly seem to - your comments are appreciated.

I'm listening,.....do continue.
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What level is safe?
The upper safety limit for atmospheric CO2 is 350 parts per million (ppm). Atmospheric CO2 levels have stayed higher than 350 ppm since early 1988

[link to co2now.org]

Might be an interesting site to bookmark...
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


CO2 levels averaged 15 times higher than that in the air, until we got into the current ice age
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Ahhhh. There it is.
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It is possible that due to the vulcanism in the oceans heating up the sea water that this is causing the methane to be released. As ocean temperatures rise more gases will be released. Perhaps it is the energy coming from the sun that is causing this and Robert Felix is correct in that this will lead to more moisture in the air and an Ice Age instead of global warming. His book is called "not by Fire But by Ice" and his explanation is very interesting. Sounds logical to me as supposedly most glaciers are growing and we are having record lows during winter.
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