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Massive Methane LEAK in Arctic sea - the End is Nigh

 
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2012-02-09 - More than 200 dolphins found dead in past week along stretch at the beaches of Lambayeque (Peru):
[link to midnightwatcher.wordpress.com]

Dolphins still washing ashore dead in the Cape Cod area too.
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2012-02-09 - More than 800 birds found dead near Christchurch:
[link to www.stuff.co.nz]

Quote: "...during the past few weeks dead birds have been found on the banks of the oxidation ponds..."
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2012-02-09 - Subway train crashes at high speed into condominium and 4 cars in Peru's capital Santiago:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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2012-02-09 - Four-year-old found lying dead in ground-level water sump at his home in India:
[link to www.thehindu.com]

2012-02-09 - Norwegian tourist, 35, found dead in hotel room in Jaipur, India:
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

2012-02-09 - Australian national, 30, found dead in his hotel room in India:
[link to ibnlive.in.com]

2012-02-09 - Attorney Stephen Light, 42, found dead inside I-29 rest stop in North Dakota:
[link to www.grandforksherald.com]

2012-02-09 - Woman, 24, found dead in her car in Batavia, NY:
[link to www.buffalonews.com]

2012-02-09 - Unidentified man, age 30-35, found dead near Metra tracks in Chicago:
[link to www.nbcchicago.com]

2012-02-09 - Woman, 22, found dead in her Exeter (Britain) residence by flatmate:
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

2012-02-08 - Missing man, 57, found dead in drainage pipe near his North Carolina home:
[link to story.northcarolinadaily.com]

2012-02-08 - Lubbock (Texas) police officer found dead at intersection:
[link to lubbockonline.com]
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Small plane crashes near runway in New Hampshire:
[link to www.wcax.com]

Quote: "The plane reportedly went down in a tree line along the fence. Witnesses tell us there appeared to be heavy fire on the runway."

Heavy fire on the runway - gas accumulating at ground level? I recall at least one other story recently where a commercial jetliner landed and its wheels suddenly caught fire. And New Hampshire...near the coast...
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Man found dead in/near burning car in North Vancouver:
[link to www.northshoreoutlook.com]

Vancouver...where the 100+ people sickened from 'suspected norovirus outbreak' in a coastal hotel not long ago, and where that ship limped to port after being hit by a 'rogue wave', and near where that 5.7 quake happened recently, and near where those squads of cheerleaders sickened...oh, THAT Vancouver.
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2012-02-08 - Atlantic City policeman found dead in the marshes off the Garden State Parkway:
[link to www.pressofatlanticcity.com]
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Methane is 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas.

The releases are occurring on land here in Alaska, in Canada, and in Russia (I am sure) too.

What we have here is called "positive feedback," where the release of greenhouse gasses is causing further release of greenhouse gasses in a cycle that continues to speed up until the release of the most gas possible occurs.

Some species could survive if this started off like a symphony, but humans would have to have breathing apparatus and special systems in airtight buildings.
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2012-02-10 - Two children find dead homeless man in his 40s in Vallejo, CA:
[link to www.topix.com]

Previously...

2012-02-08 - Major pileup involving 30+ cars closes Hwy 37 between Vallejo and Novato in CA:
[link to www.news10.net]

2012-02-05 - Massive Mare Island fire destroys four-story warehouse in Vallejo, CA:
[link to sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com]
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2012-02-09 - Churchill High 2011 graduate found burned to death in back seat of car near Waco, TX:
[link to www.1604.tv]

Back seat? Wonder if he started the car, fire appeared in the front seat area, so he quickly dove into the back seat, but made it no farther. I bet these cases look pretty puzzling to the cops.
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2012-02-09 - Churchill High 2011 graduate found burned to death in back seat of car near Waco, TX:
[link to www.1604.tv]

Back seat? Wonder if he started the car, fire appeared in the front seat area, so he quickly dove into the back seat, but made it no farther. I bet these cases look pretty puzzling to the cops.
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scary as shit mate!
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To quote Glenn Frey...

The shadows high on the darker side
Behind those doors, it's a wilder ride
You can make a break, you can win or lose
That's a chance you take, when the heat's on you
When the heat is on...

From "The Heat Is On", lyrics by Glenn Frey

2012-02-10 - Massive fire erupts in Lahore's New Auriga Center in India:
[link to dunyanews.tv]

2012-02-10 - Huge Folkestone town centre fire rips through two town centre properties:
[link to www.kentonline.co.uk]

2012-02-10 - Fire Destroys Old St. Paul Island Trident Seafoods Plant in Anchorage, Alaska:
[link to www.ktuu.com]

2012-02-10 - Massive 'gas-fueled' fire tears through Plainfield, NJ building:
[link to abclocal.go.com]
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2012-02-10 - Small plane crashes in Wisconsin, fire mentioned:
[link to www.channel3000.com]

Quote: "Galvez said officials don't know what caused the crash, which happened while the plane was taking off. But they do know there was a fire, and firefighters put out several spot fires caused by the crash."
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2012-02-10 - Engineering student found dead in home bolted from the inside in India:
[link to www.thehindu.com]

2012-02-10 - Woman found dead in the Love Canal area of Niagara Falls:
[link to www.buffalonews.com]

2012-02-10 - South Wales footballer, age 21, found dead on Talfan Road in Bonymaen:
[link to www.thisissouthwales.co.uk]

2012-02-10 - Japanese national student found dead in his bed at a school in the Philippines:
[link to www.sunstar.com.ph]

2012-02-10 - Mon Repos (Guyana) man found dead in trench:
[link to www.stabroeknews.com]

2012-02-09 - Michigan State University student, 19, sickens in dorm, dies in hospital shortly after:
[link to www.mlive.com]
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About chemtrails: I think they have multiple purposes, but are mostly intended to accomplish the following:

* Block our view, when needed, of various objects passing through the inner solar system

* Block and reflect radiation coming from the Sun, to prevent at least some heating (which compounds the H2S problem), and to replace the shielding provided by our ozone layer as the ozone layer disappears

* To provide metallic atmospheric particles that work with HAARP to create upper-atmospheric arcs to create ozone in the upper atmosphere

* To provide particles that help scrub the H2S from the atmosphere

Here's some good info from a purported chemtrail scientist. I believe he was telling the truth (though not the WHOLE truth):

[link to www.holmestead.ca]

In that email interview, he explains what HE thought was the purpose of chemtrails - to help mitigate 'UV Summer'. He only explained the problem in the context of human pollution and the ozone layer problem, but never mentioned the greater problem, the warming oceans and H2S. That's why I say he didn't tell ALL of the truth. Maybe he didn't know all of the truth.

In any case, aluminum oxide (also called alumina) has been reported by many to be a part of the mixture. That makes some sense: it's lightweight, it's reflective, it would help reflect some energy back into space. It does have another use too, as part of the Claus process:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

OLD technology, from the late 1800s. But it's how we take H2S out of a gas stream. It's the best way to do that that we know about. So if we have an H2S problem (and we do) then you'd expect the Claus process to play a part in our defense.

So, that 'roaring sound' people are hearing in the sky? I think we HAVE mastered routing light around objects to make them invisible. Maybe we reverse-engineered that technology from ET craft, maybe we came up with it ourselves. Who knows. But I think that roaring sound is coming from large industrial-scale Claus plants floating invisibly above us, sucking in dirty air (the input gas stream) and aluminum oxide (from the chemtrails) and spewing out clean air. The roaring is from the air intakes and exhausts.

This is just a hypothesis, but it does seem to fit.
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More science on H2S and methane releases in relation to ozone collapse and corresponding catastrophic UV levels (PDF):

[link to acd.ucar.edu]

I'll quote a little:

"However, we also find that large quantities of
hydrogen sulfide create a significant decrease in tropospheric hydroxyl radical, leading to a commensurate increase in atmospheric methane. Therefore a large methane flux (possibly from methane clathrate destabilization, Siberian traps or hydrothermal vent complexes) combined with a large hydrogen sulfide oceanic flux is much more likely to lead to an ozone collapse than methane or hydrogen sulfide alone with implications to the Permian-Triassic boundary extinction 250 million years ago."

Given how things are frying from the Sun now, and this frying has been increasing rapidly over the last two years, I would contend that this sequence of events is already well under way, and is probably an unstoppable juggernaut of doom at this point.

And see how everything feeds into everything else. The oceans belch H2S. This destroys the hydroxyl radicals in the atmosphere, which would normally react away methane. But with the hydroxyl radicals destroyed, the methane lingers much longer, heating things up more, which makes more ferocious H2S plumes and melts more methane, making the ozone layer wither away yet more, adding yet more heat...and so on.

This is like a sickness upon the Earth that has to burn itself out before it gets better. This phase won't be done until all the methane has been released, the ozone layer is destroyed, and pretty much everything in the oceans and (to a lesser degree) on land is dead. I truly doubt that anyone on the surface of the Earth has more than five years left to live.
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Wouldn't the methane cloud eventually encounter a lightning storm and ignite itself before it had a chance to spread so far that the entire atmosphere became combustible?
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If either H2S or methane plumes are concentrated enough then yes, if they encounter a spark they will ignite and possibly explode. That's probably what all these mysterious 'explosion sounds' and 'boom sounds' are that people are hearing around the world. Lots of homes exploding and/or catching fire lately too, as well as chemical plants, oil refineries, ammo depots, rocket bases, etc.

The entire atmosphere will not explode. Instead we will have many smaller explosions and fires as everything that is combustible eventually burns.
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BTW, we should probably talk about what you can do to protect yourself and extend your lifespan.

First off, forget cheap gas masks of any kind. They don't work for hydrogen sulfide. You need a powered respirator attached to a known clean air supply, via hose or on your back. (Read: expensive.)

Ozone generators seem like a good idea. Ozone reacts away hydrogen sulfide. That's bad for the Earth's ozone layer, yes, but down on the ground, it seems like it should at least help some. The reaction is this: H2S + O3 => H2O + O2 + S. I have three ozone generators going, personally.

I believe the activated carbon in carbon filters probably helps. I have two 6" centrifugal fans attached to carbon filters.

Aboriginals and other primitives fight volcanic gases with fires. This is a volcanic gas as well as a biochemical gas, and it is flammable, so it would make sense that fire might help. I use a gas fireplace (no chimney down which H2S could fall or accumulate that way), and use it as much as is feasible. (Obviously I'm not gonna run the fireplace when it's 95 degrees F outside.)

Insulating your home seems prudent. Think of the things you would do if you knew radioactive fallout was approaching, in terms of sealing up your house, and do as many of those things as you think prudent without looking like a whackjob to your neighbors.

Going outside seems increasingly dangerous, so I'd minimize that. I've had two friends drop dead in four months, neither with any health issues, neither older than early 40s. The cause of death was stroke, which is what an H2S death looks like (or heart attack, or pulmonary edema).

That's all I've got so far. If others have any suggestions, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one interested in hearing them.
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Quoting a few of the more pertinent posts from the last month or so, for newcomers to the thread.
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Possibly related:

2012-02-11 - Explosion at Florida horse center kills worker and a horse:
[link to abcnews.go.com]

And look at this list of bus-related vehicular accidents:

2012-02-11 - 14 killed and 40 injured when bus careens out of control in Indonesia:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-10 - More than 30 injured when bus rolls over in Canada:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-10 - Bus plunges down a gorge in India, 19 killed, 1 injured:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-08 - Three adults and eight children injured when school bus and truck collide in Ohio:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-08 - At least 23 dead and 35 more injured in deadly crash between bus and lorry in India:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-08 - Horrific vehicular accident involving truck and minibus kills ten in South Africa:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-07 - Fifteen injured when two transit buses collide in Ottowa, Canada:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

Maybe cars are having the same increase in accidents, but because buses usually involve so many more people, the buses are getting all the news time. In any case, I've been watching this stuff for quite a while, and this sudden explosion (pardon the pun) of bus-related accidents is new.
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Man and woman found dead in hot tub at Cape Coral home:
[link to www.nbc-2.com]
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Possibly related:

2012-02-11 - Thousands of Central Americans sickening:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

Quote: "Many of the victims were manual laborers or worked in sugar cane fields that cover much of the coastal lowlands."

Mainly farm workers sickening, and where do farm workers work? Outside, exposed to the atmosphere, near water sources (e.g. low-lying areas where heavier-than-air gases accumulate).

The damage seems to be from chronic exposure and is affecting the kidneys. Well...look here, some recent discoveries about H2S and its affects on the human renal system (e.g. kidneys):

"Elucidating the Role of Hydrogen Sulfide in Kidney Disease"
[link to www.jbc.org]

"Hydrogen sulfide, the third gaseous signaling molecule with cardiovascular properties, is decreased in hemodialysis patients."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

"Hypoxia in the Renal Medulla: Implications for Hydrogen
Sulfide Signaling (PDF)"
[link to jpet.aspetjournals.org]
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Couple stories from India (which seems to be getting hammered lately)...

La Mart top-ranker, age 17, found dead in lake:
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

Quote: "At 6pm on Thursday, he made a last call to his mother but did not utter a word."

Because he was choking to death, or had already died by the time she answered?

Man From Pune Found Dead On Hotel Grounds:
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

Quote: "It is suspected that the person fell from the balcony of the hotel."

Unconscious people tend to fall forward. If they're leaning on their nice balcony enjoying the outside air when a plume of H2S washes over, then they might end up on the ground down below, dead. Like this guy.
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2012-02-11 - Massive pileup involving more than 40 cars and semis on I-76 in Ohio:
[link to m.wkyc.com]
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More vehicular problems...

2012-02-12 - Euro MP's plane forced to crash land when landing gear fails in Macedonia, no injuries:
[link to www.gazette-news.co.uk]

2012-02-12 - Oil-transporting train derails in Bangladesh, 2 oil cars off the tracks:
[link to www.demotix.com]

2012-02-12 - Car hits CTA bus in Chicago, IL, 10 people injured:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-12 - Boat crashes into two other boats in Vietnam, some oil spilled, one person missing:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-11 - Eight killed and 20 injured in 3 traffic accidents in Jaipur, India:
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

2012-02-11 - 18-wheeler catches fire on I-20 in Texas:
[link to www.ktxs.com]

More folks dropping dead...

2012-02-11 - Engineering student, 21, found dead in pit in India:
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

2012-02-11 - La Mart top-ranker, age 17, found dead in lake in India:
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

2012-02-11 - Whitney Houston, 48, found dead in her hotel room bath in Los Angeles, CA:
[link to www.channel24.co.za]

Interesting stories...

2012-02-12 - One person dead and 15 sickened from purported 'carbon monoxide leak' in North St. Louis, MO:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-10 - Crane collapses and smashes section of Port Mann Bridge into B.C. River:
[link to www.cbc.ca]

2012-02-09 - Purported 'food poisoning' sickens 650+ who attended political rally in Mexico:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-02-09 - Suspected 'norovirus outbreak' sickens combined 130 students at two universities in NJ:
[link to www.myfoxphilly.com]

2012-02-09 - North Sea Shell oil drilling rig evacuated when gas detected beneath the platform:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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2012-02-12 - 60 passengers begin showing 'flu-like' symptoms on Air New Zealand flight:
Thread: BREAKING: Air New Zealand flight from Japan quarantined. 60 passengers have started displaying flu-like symptoms.
[link to tvnz.co.nz]

Also, since we're on planes now, look at this:

2012-02-12 - Plane crash in the Congo kills President Kabila's aide, others injured:
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

2012-02-12 - William and Kate's plane narrowly avoids crash at Heathrow in Britain:
[link to www.deccanherald.com]

2012-02-12 - Euro MP's plane forced to crash land when landing gear fails in Macedonia, no injuries:
[link to www.gazette-news.co.uk]

Dignitaries or political functionaries from Congo, EU and Britain ALL having plane problems, all today, to go along with the 'flu-like' symptoms on the Air New Zealand flight.

Plus, around the same time Whitney Houston was dying in Los Angeles, this was also happening:

2012-02-12 - Woman found dead on side of road in Griffith Park in Los Angeles, California:
[link to www.ktla.com]
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Dolphins found dead in Ocean City, Lower Township:
[link to www.pressofatlanticcity.com]

More dead dolphins in the northeast U.S...
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2012-02-13 - Australian vacationer found dead in river in Japanese ski town:
[link to www.abc.net.au]
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2012-02-12 - Massive fire involving 12 fire departments destroys ski lodge in southwest Pennsylvania:
[link to abclocal.go.com]

Gonna do a full update to start next page too...
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Methane is 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas.

The releases are occurring on land here in Alaska, in Canada, and in Russia (I am sure) too.

What we have here is called "positive feedback," where the release of greenhouse gasses is causing further release of greenhouse gasses in a cycle that continues to speed up until the release of the most gas possible occurs.

Some species could survive if this started off like a symphony, but humans would have to have breathing apparatus and special systems in airtight buildings.
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The abject stupidity in this thread is always a good read.

I love how the data all contradicts this BS, but that doesn't matter. Methane levels have flattened in a clear logarithmic function.

The fact that you think we'll need "breathing apparatus and special systems in airtight buildings" demonstrates your complete ignorance of the atmosphere, the amount of methane in it and the maximum amount of methane there could possibly be in it.
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bumpin for truth
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