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Massive Methane LEAK in Arctic sea - the End is Nigh

 
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only way to avoid it is to either cool the sea or remove from seabed n burn/eject into space
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other possibilities:

- create another organism (perhaps a genetically engineered bacteria) that feeds on the troublesome bacteria without producing its own catastrophic waste products

- create an organism that feeds prodigiously on H2S without producing its own catastrophic waste products
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so doom by Christmas?
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here is the full Scientific America article just referred to:

[link to www.chicagocleanpower.org]
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Here's the summary (with accompanying picture at the link):

KILLER GREENHOUSE EFFECT

A new model for mass extinctions at the end of the Permian period 251 million years ago and the end Triassic 50 million years later explains how intense global warming could trigger deaths in the sea and on land.

Trouble begins with widespread volcanic activity that releases enormous volumes of carbon dioxide and methane (1). The gases cause rapid global warming (2). A warmer ocean absorbs less oxygen from the atmosphere (3). Low oxygen (anoxia) destabilizes the chemocline, where oxygenated water meets water permeated with hydrogen sulfi de (H2S) generated by bottom-dwelling anaerobic bacteria (4). As H2S concentrations build and oxygen falls, the chemocline rises abruptly to the ocean surface (5). Green and purple photosynthesizing sulfur bacteria, which consume H2S and normally live at chemocline depth, now inhabit the H2S-rich surface waters while oxygen-breathing ocean life suffocates (6). H2S also diffuses into the air, killing animals and plants on land (7) and rising to the troposphere to attack the planetís ozone layer (8). Without the ozone shield, the sunís ultraviolet (UV) radiation kills remaining life (9).
 Quoting: Scientific American article
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Blood ocean.
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[link to news.softpedia.com]

At least this shows they are watching the levels.

The latest predictions by NOAA show that permafrost surfaces are expected to shrink by 30 to 60 percent by 2200. This process would release vast amounts of CO2 and methane in the atmosphere.

It may be sooner than 2200 though, they say the permafrost is melting much faster than expected.
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i cant wait! do you know how many resources are buried under that stuff. or historical discoveries yet to be made.
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[link to www.flipdocs.com]

Arctic Methane Alert ...by James Hansen
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Here's the summary (with accompanying picture at the link):

Trouble begins with widespread volcanic activityCHECK that releases enormous volumes of carbon dioxide and methane (1). The gases cause rapid global warmingCHECK (2). A warmer ocean absorbs less oxygen from the atmosphere (3). Low oxygen (anoxia) destabilizes the chemocline, where oxygenated water meets water permeated with hydrogen sulfi de (H2S) generated by bottom-dwelling anaerobic bacteria (4). As H2S concentrations build and oxygen fallsCHECK, the chemocline rises abruptly to the ocean surface (5). Green and purple photosynthesizing sulfur bacteriaCHECK, which consume H2S and normally live at chemocline depth, now inhabit the H2S-rich surface waters while oxygen-breathing ocean life suffocatesCHECK (6). H2S also diffuses into the air, killing animals and plants on landCHECK (7) and rising to the troposphere to attack the planetís ozone layerCHECK (8). Without the ozone shield, the sunís ultraviolet (UV) radiation kills remaining life (9).


All in progress, but UH OH, that only leaves one
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I think back to the BP spill and how methane was a concern with that and how it's almost non-news now that Fukushima happened and as the protocol seems to be even that is pushed to the back and ignored by major media reports. Is there some type of geoengineering taking place with regard to earth's natural state of decay?
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Would really appreciate an intelligent conversation about where now we see the possibility of the purpose of spraying. Maybe they are helping???? And fuck off noble and snake
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Oh shiiiiiiiiiit. So, timeframe guess here anyone? hiding
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"The scale and volume of the methane release has astonished the head of the Russian research team who has been surveying the seabed of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf off northern Russia for nearly 20 years."

"This is the first time that we've found continuous, powerful and impressive seeping structures, more than 1,000 metres in diameter. It's amazing," Dr Semiletov said.

"Some plumes were a kilometre or more wide and the emissions went directly into the atmosphere Ė the concentration was a hundred times higher than normal."

Full Article:
[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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anybody gotta match?
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More global warming bullshit, the Interdependent is a trash commie propaganda rag, try and get one of these scientists on the phone, it will never happen.
Don't be a sucker, again.
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A 1km methane leak accounts as 1/510000000

The Earth surface area is 510 million km^2

Assuming there are at least 1000 leaks, and all are about 1km square. That would be 0.0002% of surface area.

Considering the Earths atmosphere 4,200,000,000 cubic km. It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.

However, should the oceans encounter a globally universal environment where the methane build up is released simultaneously......well, then were in trouble.
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You don't really grasp the problem. It's the hydrogen sulfide, which is produced when ancient anaerobic bacteria eat methane or biomatter. There is as much methane in the methane hydrates as all the gas and oil reserves on the planet combined. There is also a HUGE amount of biomass in the oceans which - if you hadn't noticed - are ALREADY dying.

There is enough methane and biomass out there to thoroughly poison the atmosphere. Hydrogen sulfide is lethal in 1 part per thousand. One or two breathes and you're history. In lower concentrations it knocks you unconscious, like those 22 Houston students, those 136 Cambodian students, the 5 near Boston, the 60-ish Zappos workers, the family of 5 that sickened in their car in Kentucky this past week, and on and on. Our atmosphere is getting poisoned RIGHT NOW.

It's also a highly flammable gas, and it's heavier than air. Remember those raging Russian fires in 2010? That was also the year the Gulf circulation stalled, making the dead zones grow in size and potency. And now this past year fires all over, from CA to FLA and everywhere in between, and Russia again, and Mexico, and South America, and Australia.

And people are dropping dead from it. 3 corpses found on MSU grounds in a 10-day span of time recently. The guy in the Reno fire who stepped outside to evacuate and immediately dropped dead. The family of four found dead in their pool and bathtub in San Diego. The family of four found dead in their home in the UK last week. It goes on and on and on, corpses everywhere. They're dying in homes all around you, I'm sure, but it looks just like a heart attack, or 'natural causes', and leaves no real trace, no smoking gun, unless the autopsy is done quickly AND the ME knows what to look for - doubtful.

This extinction event has happened before. Here's a science article that ties things together pretty well, though I'm sure the author hoped fervently not to be proven so accurate in his lifetime:

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

This is why the super-rich are building bunkers in the Himalayas - to minimize dealing with the invisible waves of lethal heavier-than-air gas that is even now building up in our atmosphere.

Oh, as if flammable poison gas wasn't enough to deal with, it's also reacting away our ozone layer, like so: H2S + O3 => H2O + O2 + S. Noticed the Sun getting brighter this past year? Those schoolkids that got 'flash-burned' in Louisiana on an INDOOR field-trip to another school in JANUARY sure noticed. And seals and dolphins are showing up with lesions. That's not from Fukushima. That's from the SUN, as our ozone layer is reacted away to nothing. Noticed all the white buffalos and other albinos, and the four-armed kids, and two-headed turtles and snakes of late? Mutation rates are spiking now, from the increasing UV levels.

Basically, you're gonna need a backup atmosphere, soon.

There is ONE positive here: the unemployment rate should drop as people die off. Well, lo and behold, it just dropped a half point. What was the explanation? That a bunch of people 'unexpectedly dropped out of the work force'. Uh huh, yeah, because they unexpectedly dropped out of BEING ALIVE.
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I've always thought many of the mass animal die-offs were due to methane.
 Quoting: Girl Genius


Birds have HIGHLY sensitive respiratory systems, so I'm inclined to agree... hence the use of a canary in the coal mine. When the birds start to have trouble breathing... we're up next.
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This is a non issue because THE BLAZAR IS COMING!!!%%% (hehe for PSSZZ). Watch out for the wormholes. lololol
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I really liked this post. I wanted to see the actual fountains myself, so I searched a little bit. Didn't find any pictures. Well, I did see what looked like an aerial photo but I'm not sure if it was a file photo or what.

I was wondering, could they actually photograph this happening or is it based on estimations/air monitoring? I mean, those gasses being as deadly as they are, maybe they can't get close to the places this is happening? Maybe they have to see this happening from the air?
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Oh shit...
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A 1km methane leak accounts as 1/510000000

The Earth surface area is 510 million km^2

Assuming there are at least 1000 leaks, and all are about 1km square. That would be 0.0002% of surface area.

Considering the Earths atmosphere 4,200,000,000 cubic km. It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.

However, should the oceans encounter a globally universal environment where the methane build up is released simultaneously......well, then were in trouble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405546


UUhh..wait..METHANE..PLUS ...H.A.A.R.P...?

====F---ING BOOOOOOOOOOM!!

3 MILLION GIGAWATTS PER HOUR BEAMED INTO IONOSPHERE?

How is the Ionosphere Formed?
At the outer reaches of the Earth's environment, solar radiation strikes the atmosphere with a power density of 1370 Watts per meter2 or 0.137 Watts per cm2, a value known as the "solar constant." This intense level of radiation is spread over a broad spectrum ranging from radio frequencies through infrared (IR) radiation and visible light to X-rays. Solar radiation at ultraviolet (UV) and shorter wavelengths is considered to be "ionizing" since photons of energy at these frequencies are capable of dislodging an electron from a neutral gas atom or molecule during a collision.

Fountains' of methane 1,000m across erupt from Arctic ice - a greenhouse gas 30 times more potent than carbon dioxide

'Methane fields on a scale not seen before' - researcher
More than 100 fountains, but could be 'thousands'
Could cause rapid climate change...
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A . It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.


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 Quoting: GonViral


ummm - I'll call this doom.

or at least wonder why I quit smoking...
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If all the methane hydrates are melting in a chain reaction doom by Christmas.

Slow release, we may have a few years left.
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No wonder things are speeding up for a East vs West showdown. They want to fit in the final episode before another season of TV Earth comes to an end...
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A 1km methane leak accounts as 1/510000000

The Earth surface area is 510 million km^2

Assuming there are at least 1000 leaks, and all are about 1km square. That would be 0.0002% of surface area.

Considering the Earths atmosphere 4,200,000,000 cubic km. It would take decades to make the atmosphere explosive.

Rest easy people, this is a non-doom issue atm.

However, should the oceans encounter a globally universal environment where the methane build up is released simultaneously......well, then were in trouble.
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yes, man! that is what I'm talking about. clappa
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You would think man would be trying to slow down methane and co2 emissions, but NO, they are going to drill through the ice into the buried lakes in Antarctica and release even more.

Antarctica is home to 387 known subglacial lakes, some of the most pristine environments on Earth. Lake Vostok in East Antarctica is the most well-known of these lakes. A Russian team has been trying to drill and collect samples from Vostok, but were unable to do so before winter set in this year

In October 2012, a team of 10 scientists and engineers will use state of the art hot-water drilling technology to make a borehole through the ice to the lake below. They will then lower a titanium probe to measure and sample the water followed by a corer to extract sediment from the lake.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

Not that it matters much with all the unprecedented volcanic activity lately.
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Great Post OP

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That's some scary shit!!!
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If only those dinosaurs didn't pass so much gas...

Now we just need a way to harvest it and burn it... woo hooo!
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I have a very serious concern.

My son has been very asthmatic lately to the point of not even being able to get his breath to take his inhaler, nothing seems to help.His doctor has prescibed many different meds to no avail, He was very active outside up until then now for the past two or three weeeks he can't do much of anything without an attack.

And also two weeks ago my friends sister died of an asthma attack.

could this methane leak cause this kind of symptoms.

We live in south central Michigan.

Please only legit comments this is my sons life i'm talking about.
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Maybe its the signal that the pole shift is imminent? It seems like the superpowers are coming together enemy and ally. Stolen drone my ass. Just another chess move imo.


December 21st is right around the corner damned
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I have a very serious concern.

My son has been very asthmatic lately to the point of not even being able to get his breath to take his inhaler, nothing seems to help.His doctor has prescibed many different meds to no avail, He was very active outside up until then now for the past two or three weeeks he can't do much of anything without an attack.

And also two weeks ago my friends sister died of an asthma attack.

could this methane leak cause this kind of symptoms.

We live in south central Michigan.

Please only legit comments this is my sons life i'm talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1186645


If you google "Effect of Methane on asthma sufferers" you might find out much more than asking the people here.

Good luck with your research!

red_heart
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this THE real doom story that so many at GLP ignore
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Yep, we are SO fucked.

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.

I really liked this post. I wanted to see the actual fountains myself, so I searched a little bit. Didn't find any pictures. Well, I did see what looked like an aerial photo but I'm not sure if it was a file photo or what.

I was wondering, could they actually photograph this happening or is it based on estimations/air monitoring? I mean, those gasses being as deadly as they are, maybe they can't get close to the places this is happening? Maybe they have to see this happening from the air?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5331184
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Well, if they get too close to photograph it in a boat,
they may not make it back with the picture.

That much methane in water changes the density of water
and the boat might lose its buoyancy and sink.

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