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Massive Methane LEAK in Arctic sea - the End is Nigh

 
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2012-01-25 - Large building in Rio de Janeiro explodes/collapses, possible 'gas explosion' cited:
Thread: Breaking!! Big Building Colapses in BRAZIL

2012-01-25 - Huge fireworks explosion in Thailand kills 4, injures 90, and 100 homes set ablaze:
[link to news.yahoo.com]
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

2012-01-25 - Four Iranian Revolutionary Guard commanders die of heart attacks or strokes within one week:
Thread: Iran Preparing for 12th Imam: Internal Purges Underway and Plans for US & Israel Terror Attacks Worldwide.
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Vancouver Island area rumbling, residents fearful:
[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]

Could be dissociating methane hydrates there. Here's a map of hydrate deposits around the world:

[link to tinypic.com]

See that cluster of hydrate deposits near the Cascadia area? Could be those are melting now, in which case the gas will blow mostly eastward toward the Pacific Northwest. Watch for more incidents of mass sickening like the 100+ who sickened at the Harbour Hotel in Vancouver a few days ago, or maybe buildings exploding and/or catching fire and possibly collapsing, as happened in the last day to multiple buildings in Rio de Janeiro.
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More students with neurological Tourette's-like tics in NY:
[link to www.usatoday.com]

Quoting from the article: "...previously said tests had ruled out medical disorders, diseases and environmental factors."

And: "She reiterated that earlier testing had ruled out environmental contaminants or infections as a cause."

Lol, they sure are making sure you don't even THINK about environmental causes, like H2S. Well, how could they rule that out? A cloud wafts in, wafts out. Leaves little or no trace inside these students' bodies. They CAN'T rule that out, but they sure do want you to THINK they can.

Okay, here's the Wiki H2S link again:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Quote: "Hydrogen sulfide is considered a broad-spectrum poison, meaning that it can poison several different systems in the body, although the nervous system is most affected. The toxicity of H2S is comparable with that of hydrogen cyanide."

People losing their ability to speak intelligibly - the 'burtations'. These nervous tics in NY. The 'head-bobbing' illness spreading across Uganda. All indicators of neurological damage. What might they all have in common? An environmental neurological poison, like hydrogen sulfide, with a planetary-scale source of emissions: the oceans. A hit-and-run poison that leaves little or no trace of itself.
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2012-01-29 - At least 9 dead and 18 injured in wrecks and pileups on I-75 in Florida:
[link to news.yahoo.com]

They mention smoke from brushfires. (In January? Not exactly fire season.) I wonder what might be IN that smoke. Remember that first Reno fire - a gentleman stepped outside his home to evacuate, breathed some smoke and fell down dead.
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That is bad, bad news. Methane is what ancient anaerobic bacteria in the 'dead zones' of the oceans eat, which spew hydrogen sulfide. That will provide them a nigh limitless supply of food, and when bacteria have limitless food...

Well, I was hoping for a while that we could mine the methane hydrates, use them as an energy source. Burning it converts it into CO2, not good, but better than methane and waaaaay better than hydrogen sulfide. But it's too late for that, obviously; no time to ramp up infrastrucure for that now.

So, what are the choices? We could arm subs with powerful lasers and purposely detonate the methane hydrate deposits as they begin to dissociate (melt). That would produce some HUGE explosions. I kinda wonder if that wasn't what caused that Virginia quake. Not sure we have enough subs though. We could use nukes too, and that'd probably burn off the methane more effectively, but has the obvious drawback of needing to nuke most of the coastlines in the northern hemisphere (which is where most methane hydrate deposits are located).

Or we could just let the Earth do her thing, as she has before, and then we end up with a deadly poisonous and explosively flammable atmosphere for the next few million years.

Tough call there.
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Gee would that, like, produce a lot of Blood Red Tide, by any chance?
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I think they outta pin this thread...
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Today I am gonna put aside the dying and the doom and instead bring to you a little hope.

I found this image a few days ago:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

At first I thought that was one of the faces of our enemy, the bacteria and archaea that spew out hydrogen sulfide. But as it turns out, that image is of the species Beggiatoa. More info on that species here:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Quote: "Some species have the ability of chemolitho-autotrophic growth by means of sulfide oxidation for energy and with carbon dioxide as a source of carbon for biosynthesis. In this metabolism internal stored nitrate is the electron acceptor and reduced to ammonia."

Sulfide oxidation: 2H2S + O2 => 2S + 2H2O

So some members of this species essentially EAT hydrogen sulfide, oxidize it for energy, turning two molecules of H2S and one molecule of oxygen into 2 molecules of elemental sulfur and two molecules of water.

That image was taken in 2008, off the coast of South Carolina, by a deep sea vehicle. I see why they are looking so closely at these seeps and vents and the like: any real solution has to involve some form of life, probably a bacteria like this that evolved long before our own oxygen-using kind of life ever appeared.

Here's some info on those oceanic cold seeps:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Quote: "The first type of organism to take advantage of this deep-sea energy source is bacteria.[2] Aggregating into bacterial mats at cold seeps, these bacteria metabolize methane and hydrogen sulfide (another gas that emerges from seeps) for energy.[2] This process of obtaining energy from chemicals is known as chemosynthesis.[2]"

It took as long as 30 million years for the Earth to recover from the Permian-Triassic extinction event. Maybe if we HELP these H2S-eating and methane-eating bacteria get going and do their thing then perhaps we can cut that amount of time down considerably.
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Apparently there are more people coming forward in NY having seizures and twitching...

Thread: UPSTATE NY... More People are Reporting seizures!!!!!
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marking a spot to read later - thanks OP
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Probably related:

More students with neurological Tourette's-like tics in NY:
[link to www.usatoday.com]

Quoting from the article: "...previously said tests had ruled out medical disorders, diseases and environmental factors."

And: "She reiterated that earlier testing had ruled out environmental contaminants or infections as a cause."

Lol, they sure are making sure you don't even THINK about environmental causes, like H2S. Well, how could they rule that out? A cloud wafts in, wafts out. Leaves little or no trace inside these students' bodies. They CAN'T rule that out, but they sure do want you to THINK they can.

Okay, here's the Wiki H2S link again:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Quote: "Hydrogen sulfide is considered a broad-spectrum poison, meaning that it can poison several different systems in the body, although the nervous system is most affected. The toxicity of H2S is comparable with that of hydrogen cyanide."

People losing their ability to speak intelligibly - the 'burtations'. These nervous tics in NY. The 'head-bobbing' illness spreading across Uganda. All indicators of neurological damage. What might they all have in common? An environmental neurological poison, like hydrogen sulfide, with a planetary-scale source of emissions: the oceans. A hit-and-run poison that leaves little or no trace of itself.
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Start following how many people complain of vertigo and nausea related to vertigo. The nausea is indicative of a higher level of vertigo. I live on the east coast and have been experiencing this for months. At one point it got so bad, it rendered me unable to function.

Many people have complained of vertigo in the past month.
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Might as well add this to it...

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Good News!

The Earth shall be baptized in fire!!!
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Ferry missing off Papua New Guinea.
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2012-02-01 - Boat capsizes off Malaysia, eight dead, five missing:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Why is this not pinned?

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Thread: Bold Alligator 2012 – It’s Game Time!!!! 8 Countries Participating In Largest US East Coast Drill Fron Now Until Feb 12!!

Big amphibious drill on the east coast. Goes along with the DC-area drills on how to evacuate quickly, how to deal with mass casualties, how to deal with a biological or chemical attack. Maybe THIS is what they meant by 'drill baby, drill'!

I'd be nervous if I were on the east coast. A lot of that warmth there is probably coming off the waters, warmth that normally would have been pumped toward Europe by the circulating current that has stalled. So if that water is heating up this much off the coast there then the methane hydrate deposits there are likely in serious danger of large-scale collapse.
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Speaking of Europe:

-25F in Poland! BRRRR!

[link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]

Where'd their heat go? It's tied up on our east coast and in the Gulf of Mexico.
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East coast drill!
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More schools being evacuated lately:

2012-02-02 - Middle school, home evacuated for 'gas leak' at Boca's St. Andrew's School in Florida:
[link to www.wptv.com]

2012-02-01 - St. John’s School in Massachusetts evacuated due to 'gas smell':
[link to www.somdnews.com]

2012-02-01 - Lockwood Intermediate and Elementary Schools in Wyoming evacuated after 'natural gas leak':
[link to billingsgazette.com]
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Insight can come from surprising sources. A couple of days ago I was cooking some homemade tomato-peppercorn sauce to put on some filets. I got the mix done and in a pot then set it cooking and stood there watching. At first there were no bubbles. Then a few. Then more. They got bigger, eventually forming little waves that slapped the side of the saucepan.

Well, recall this event/thread, about a buoy off Papua New Guinea going into event mode and showing a 13-foot change in depth:

Thread: Buoy 52402 In Event Mode - 13 Ft. Drop North Of Papau New Guinea - Pacific Ocean Near Philippine Sea

And then a day or two later we got the sunk ferry carrying 350-ish people in that same area:

Thread: A ferry carrying around 300 passengers is missing off the north coast of Papua

I think what I saw in my saucepot as my sauce heated up was a microcosm of what is actually happening on our planet, in our seas, lakes and oceans as THEY heat up.

When you take into account the methane we KNOW is melting in the Arctic, it's probable that this is occurring elsewhere. So under the ocean floor, methane hydrates melt away, releasing the gas. If the gas has a path to the water and then to the surface then off it goes. But if not then the gas will build up and build up until it eventually EXPLODES free, pushing up the ocean floor for a moment as the gas bubble escapes, after which the ocean floor would collapse down deeper than it was before (due to the lost volume). And then a ship comes by, hits the cloud, and has problems.

Another possibility (and not at all mutualy exclusive) is that we are not being told about most of the volcanic eruptions that are occurring. Think about it. There are 3 million volcanoes on Earth, but land only covers 30% of the surface area. In other words, most volcanoes are underwater, yet we hear about VERY FEW of those - generally only when they breach surface with eruptions or when they create a new island. So if there are 50 volcanoes erupting that we know about then there may very well be another HUNDRED that are erupting underwater. That big cruise ship that crashed off Italy - something hit it from below. I'm guessing a volcanic eruption occurred beneath it, or else the ocean bubbled up some gas as it was going by.
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I see dead people!

2012-02-02 - Arlington, TX man, 28, found dead in pool:
[link to www.star-telegram.com]

2012-02-02 - Louisiana Tech running back Tyrone Duplessis found dead at his off-campus apartment:
[link to www.wafb.com]

2012-02-02 - Firefighter found dead in bed at station house in St. Charles, MO:
[link to www.bnd.com]

2012-02-02 - U.S. Marine found dead in his quarters in Okinawa:
[link to www.marines.mil]
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No wonder things are speeding up for a East vs West showdown. They want to fit in the final episode before another season of TV Earth comes to an end...
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Is this like the Truman Show? The Earth Show?
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Probably relaated:

2012-02-03 - Several vehicles catch fire in Platte City, MO, man found dead inside one of them:
[link to www.kctv5.com]

Fits right in with the car fires in CA and the rash of vehicle fires all over Vietnam. In fact, lots of stories about people being found dead in burning vehicles.

So, here's my working theory: someone gets in their car and starts it. Methane and/or H2S has accumulated near ground level. Spark plug ignites fire, person dies in car as the poison gas suddenly expands from the heat and hits them. As that car burns, sparks and/or explosions start setting off the other cars downwind of the initial car if there's a pocket of gas nearby.

Here's a sad one, baby just stopped breathing all of a sudden:

2012-02-03 - Infant, 2 months, dies at daycare center in Wisconsin:
[link to www.greenbaypressgazette.com]
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Propane truck explodes, buildings on fire in Wisconsin:
Thread: BREAKING !!!! Large explosion whitewater WI multiple building on fire
[link to www.channel3000.com]

Quote from a commenter: "My Son texted me from White Water and thought they were experiencing an Earth quake."
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2012-02-03 - U.S. Brigadier General Hildner, age 49, found dead in bed in Afghanistan:
[link to www.panarmenian.net]

Highest ranking U.S. soldier to ever die in Afghanistan.
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2012-02-04 - A hundred pigeons found dead in Rapid City, South Dakota:
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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This thread is too fun.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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