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Cancer, the key to immortality.

 
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So since telomerase is produced by cancer cells, the presence of it in the body could be a test for the presence of cancer somewhere in the body. Right?

I wonder if this is presently done.

Telomerase by the way, is an enzyme. The suffix ase denotes that it is an enzyme.
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So since telomerase is produced by cancer cells, the presence of it in the body could be a test for the presence of cancer somewhere in the body. Right?

I wonder if this is presently done.

Telomerase by the way, is an enzyme. The suffix ase denotes that it is an enzyme.
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This article shows that telomerase doesn't induce cancer:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

And this one shows that telomerase is present in normal (healthy) cells:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

However you do see increased levels of testosterone in cancer cells.
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then there is the fact that cancer does not survive in a high pH and oxygenated environment... btw, there is 50% more oxygen in air trapped in fossilized amber...

the creation is still falling... species dying, cancer spreading...

BUT, if you take care of your body as a temple, you can heal any cancer and prevent most, praise Jah!

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Along with fact that highly acid body encourages cancer growth, the body additionally helps the cancer's survival by lining the surface of the tumor with insulin receptors. This makes the tumor a virtual hog for the food. This is why weight loss is experienced by cancer patients.
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Sorry, I didn't use the quote properly.
I only wrote the bottom part.
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
Immortality in this world? NO THANKS!!!
In a improved utopian world? Maybe
Just consider the baddies of this world living forever. Makes me shudder.
Fix the world first - then lengthen life.
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Immortality in this world? NO THANKS!!!
In a improved utopian world? Maybe
Just consider the baddies of this world living forever. Makes me shudder.
Fix the world first - then lengthen life.
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Part of fixing this world is extending life. The fact that all your mistakes get wiped clean relatively quickly predisposes people to being more willing to make them.

The lack of understanding that we're stuck here together for good is corrosive. The inability to see long term planning of decades of effort come to fruition in the form of missions to mars, terraforming, moving beyond the solar system, etc., limit the imagination and ambition of mankind.

Death is a horrible disease that must be conquered.
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
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You are correct in theory. We WERE/ARE created to be immortal. But not these bodies, in this state (that is environment - earth). TOo much pollution, injury, illness has come upon it.

The perfect plan, the plan of GOD was for us to live forever in our bodies, on this earth. But sin and disease has polluted it.

We will live forever in a NEW "heaven and a new earth," someday.
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THESE BODIES ARE TRANSFORMED BY "THE TRUTH"!!!

THE EARTH IS TRANSFORMED IN "THE TRUTH"!!!



THIS IS THE NEW HEAVEN AND THE NEW EARTH!!!
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH IMMORTALITY!!!

OUR BODIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS...

IN WHICH WE ARE BORN...

WE WHERE BUILT TO BE IMMORTAL...

WHICH IS WHERE THE DESIRE COMES FROM...

THE HOPE...

WE WHERE AT ONE TIME IMMORTAL...

BUT NOW...

THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO IMMORTALITY!!!

WHY???

CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED...

WHAT CONDITIONS???
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THE CONDITIONS THAT DEFINE 3 DIMESIONAL...

WHICH ARE CONDUCIVE TO PERFECTION...

WHY???

3 DIMENSIONAL SPACE IS ABSOULUTE...

OR "THE TRUTH"!!!
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SO, WHAT HAS CHANGED???

IF, YOU SAY YOUR OWN TRUTH IS "THE TRUTH"...

THEN, YOU GET CANCER AND DIE!!!

IF, YOU SAY YOUR TRUTH IS DEAD...

AND ACCEPT "THE TRUTH"....

THEN YOU LIVE FOR EVER!!!

IT, IS THAT SIMPLE!!!
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YOUR OWN TRUTH CAN NOT EXSIT IN THE SPACE...

YOU WERE BORN IN...

THEREFORE YOU DIE!!!

ACCEPT "THE TRUTH"...

AND HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE!!!
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AMEN BROTHER!!!

PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN "THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST"!!!
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
As a small time doctor, I began this line of questioning when we began learning about cancer, TNM stages, oncogenes and on oncogenic factors, etc.

On most occasions I assumed like the rest, its purely genetic this cancers arise but then I looked at it again and ask deeper and found that if a cell decides to become immortal, cancer is the result.

Its because of the holographic principle, something physicists today use to describe our entire multi-dimensional universe. Everything is relative and connected.

Just as your body is made up of variously differentiated functioning cells, they are all connected to form YOU!

If one cell decides to go its own way, the result is the lost of all other neighboring cells. It also looses its function of shaping itself pre-determined by the three embryonic layers, the ectoderm, mesoderm, endoderm. If any one of those layers do not form well, cysts, organ malformation and developmental defects follow. Cancer (Immortal cells) give up their limitations of aging, proper differentiation, relative effective connection with their surrounding structures and their productivity towards the entire body system as a whole.

This is to iterate the importance of organization as a collective effort to produce a fully-functioning highly productive you!

Here's the holographic principle in summary: One dimension add itself to become 2d which adds itself to make it 3d which makes up all quantum particles, which makes up atoms which makes up molecules that makes up amino acids.

Here I stop to iterate the origin of complex life has recently been proposed as a fusion of TWO single celled organisms working together to produce a eukaryotic cell which is in every complex life we see on earth. Again, it requires two (AND MORE) multi-cellular organisms to achieve intelligence as we have.

So amino acids form dna strands that form single celled organisms, that fuse with each other to produce multi celled organisms, that fuse with each other produce tissues, organs and an entire body of a complex lifeform, which is us.

Proceed further and we see that, complex lifeforms joined together form a social system, and social systems joined together forms a government. The only thing we are missing, is that government fuses with each other, forming a singular thought entity of an entire planet of the collective human race that will represent Earth's own thought form.

It's not about immortality of life that is the question...its the immortality of a civilization.
U can make one cell immortal by activating its oncogenes no problem, but to give it function is impossible because it has no limitations of design capable of producing a desired effect.

Stem cells on the other hand are not immortal, they simply are young and without purpose yet, however once we give it function, forcing it to multiply to differentiate into cells which function, then they lose their immortality.

Its the cosmic answer to Pluto's statement, "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely," but by joining hands into a unified union that works together perfectly adapted to each other, then immortality is achieved in a way that is perfectly aligned with the laws of the holographic universe, a universe based entirely on chaotic free will. If one of us was given too much power or is allowed to copy itself indefinitely, then we would simply be replaced by it/him/her...
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Re: Cancer, the key to immortality.
Top th-read. Now on to the esoteric

Note abraham, nearly same.

Abraham 123 264 44 2281
Adonai 105 264 44 2224
Brian 132 264 44 2196
Cancer 132 264 44 2134
Faith 124 264 44 1822
Yod 454 264 44 1446
Hope 123 264 44 1438
Judah 813 264 44 1422
Magick 60 264 44 1381
Kill 59 264 44 1319
Brain 132 264 44 1219
Ray 481 264 44 1190
Hidden 70 264 44 1132
Set 195 264 44 1110
Clock 4 86 264 44 1009
Haarp 150 264 44 982
Karma 122 264 44

The mascot of Cancer is the Crab, and much like this shelled little critter, Cancers are quick to retreat into their shells if it suits their mood.
(see hidden)

Cancer is ruled by the moon (tide, mood, time, edit, water)
Crab's maternal instincts, ma-ternal - eternal

Also - aids. Aid. Dis-ease is the cure. Death the teacher.





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