My Boyfriend And I Have Good Working Knowledge Of The Astral And Self Defense There, Ask Us A Question

mainly meditation for me but also dreams.

Obviously the quantifiable evidence thing is more than a little tricky because we can't then show it to others. But yeah like she said a big part of it is us confirming dozens and dozens of shared experiences. Knowing things we could not possibly know unless we were also right there at the moment.

Other stuff includes me turning into a poltergeist and doing experiments with that :P Basically I came up with a theory of how ghosts work and then devised a method to see if I could become one myself. I'd try to move stuff around in front of unsuspecting friends with the plan that if something actually happened they'd then contact me about the weird experience. But of course I never told them I was going to try this, otherwise it breaks the experiment. And so because of them completely independently telling me the experience that would closely match what I "imagined" myself doing, I proved the theory right.

Unfortunately I can't do this totally at will yet, still have some bugs to work out.

Other stuff includes talking to some of my friends up there who will show me stuff claiming its something physical or otherwise actually exists, and then later learning that they weren't lying because I,ll find a video they showed me or the actual physical evidence they were talking about.

The fact that I originally learned of said thing via projection before learning it actually existed physically kinda proves that there is some reality in this especially since this has happened multiple times now.

oh what else do we have? Physical injuries from things attacking us astrally/spiritually. A little thing I've now dubbed the Kruger Effect after, well, Freddy Kruger. Psychosomatic injuries may be a real documented phenomenon in psychology but somehow I don't think you can imagine burn marks or lacerations onto your body. Especially when those injuries just happen to be in the exact same spots as ones your suffered on your other body. Even if they are often not of the same intensity. Welts and bruises after a therapy session where you ranted your guts out? Sure.

I personally don't think I'm very good at remote viewing so I don't like counting my minor successes at that as evidence.

But yeah we've collected quite the pile, and there's more than just this too because I'm only talking about the projection stuff.

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Technically yes we can project on this plane but I have a hard time trusting what I see. The problem being that every single object seems to have a exact duplicate just like your body does.... so how do I know I'm down here and not up there? There tends to be some plane specific features as well and so I just can't trust that what I'm seeing is really this plane. I need to develop some decent method that all but guarantees I'm on this plane before I'll start trusting.

Although we have found things that others have confirmed, like describing someones room to them without having any pictures or anything to go on. Still its not foolproof so I don't like trusting that info right now.

Finding lost persons is easier said than done. I'd need to know their energy signature for one, then it would be doable. If its someone I've never met before then there's no way I'll know that sig. Kinda like how you give a bloodhound a piece of a persons clothing to sniff so they know what they're looking for. But I'm not that good at tracking so I'd need more than just a bit of residue of their energy to go on.

Well... no we haven't had astral sex. I have heard stories from people who have though and apparently there is no comparison. One woman said she doesn't even bother with physical sex anymore because its just boring by comparison because when its astral its like every single cell in your body is orgasming and its something you feel and experience physically. The whole being able to manipulate energy thing probably helps a lot with that. I figure if you combined physical sex with astral sex it would even better than that.


I find that the more of your consciousness you've transferred to the other side the more control you have over that body as well as how sharp your senses are and etc.

You want a tip? Fake it till you make it.

You wanna levitate then just try levitating, etc.

Practice makes perfect.

Well I don't know how amalgamated they really are, nor do I know much about religions in general. Maybe they just look like they're amalgamations but are really just their own race. I've met a few people up there who could be described as hybrids I guess. At least in the sense that they look like they have human an animal features. But nope, that's just how they are, so that's what I'm basing this on. As for being trapped here.... no idea. I've had trouble gathering any reliable information on that story although I have heard of it.

They look like lots of different things. Some more humanoid than others, but there's a whole spectrum so there' not much point in me going into specifics.

Yeah they communicate sometimes.

Depends, you might as well ask if all humans are friendly. This world's not black and white so why should any other be?

As for OBE's you could try very intense visualization where you try to trick your mind and body into thinking you're experiences are real for a start. Or just look at the link the bored dude supplied out of boredom. There's lots of resources out there on it already.

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Okay did I miss anything?

Sort of off topic, but may relate to your travels and the answers you've gathered...

Do you think there are different realities here on the same time line, the one right now where you and I are talking to one another, where some people see UFO's and other entities and they will live out that reality like getting picked up by the UFO's and go off to another world, and then mine where I have never seen an entity or UFO, and that other person sees and lives their reality but I don't see theirs and they don't see mine play out? Did that make absolutely any sense to you?

Do different realities play out on the same time line?

Is time an illusion?

Did you meet any gods?

What do you know about archons and the demiurge?

Have you been to the sun?

Short version: yes.

Long version: So we already mentioned the whole past life thing but we didn't mention any of the wackier details and it actually does tie into the whole reality thing. See, universes and the realities within them don't all run at the same pace. Because of this its possible to have a past life that, from the perspective of the reality you'd currently be inhabiting, appears to be in the future. It isn't the future however and that's something very important to remember.

There's very specific terminology to define all of this and its the only terminology I use to this day because it works.

Here's the breakdown and try to picture one of those Russian dolls that have smaller and smaller dolls inside them while you read this because I think it's the best analogy.


---------->Planes---->Planes
Multiverse>Dimensions>Universe>Realities
---------->Realms---->Realms

(the dashes mean nothing, just doing it so the arrows show up in the right place and show that its running parallel at those levels)

Wow I've never actually written that out before, its a bit more complex than I thought. Now its kinda hard to believe that that's the simplest diagram I can think of unless I left out the realm and planes from it which would kinda be wrong to do anyways. But there's no real point getting into the nitty gritty science of it because that info is probably of no practical use to anyone but me here. But if you really want me to get into it I will.

As far as the whole aliens being around in one reality but not another, sure its totally possible. Realities are basically part of a big infinite probability field and chances are there's some reality out there where aliens have landed and etc that is running on an equivalent timescale to this reality.

I would say time isn't an illusion but means different things in different situations and to different peoples, etc.

You'll have to define what you mean by gods, archons, and demiurge before I can even begin to answer that question. Not something you pulled off wikipedia, your definition in your words.

No I haven't been to the sun.

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I wanted to share an experience I had years back, I use to live in a condo where my upstairs neighbor was a santero. At night while going to sleep I would see this energy come down from the ceiling and literally make its way to me and choke me/paralyze me in my sleep. Well this went on for months, I thought it was a dwarf or small being, sinve I could see the short apparition walk to me, I tried everythinh, even all of the Robert Bruce methods. Nothing worked. Then one morning my wife told me she had a starnge lucid dream that there was a torso (head + torso no lower body) wandering around the apartment, and apparently she made eye contact with this being, she said that it was hoffied when she looked at it and it flew out the apartment, after that I never felt the presence of this entity again.

So you have to use self-defense in the Astral? Sounds like a violent place.

Its not as bad as it sounds. Her and I have made a few enemies and that's mainly why we get treated like we do. But it is true that humans are not held in high regard to many up there and so there's just a higher chance of being targeted because of that prejudice. But people tend to leave you alone once they realize that you bite back.

Heh, piercing gaze? :P

Seriously though that's cool.

That question stands out for me in a very familiar way...I have some vague memory of the term "Watcher", and I feel I know what this means, but for some reason, it is elluding me at the moment...but it's got me thinking...sorry if this wasn't helpful.

I get that.
Its not something that you can show to others unless they want to see it. Part of the faith test I believe.

Thanks for that. Makes things seem a bit easier to understand now.

Very much so, unless you have VIP status as someone's loyal servant. ie; religion.

Thats because they let the power go to their head.

When you are powerful people are always trying to offer you stuff so they can be a part of your life. Its not easy to decline it all.

You people are basically brainwashed life fucks.

Everyone will a brain is.

But if you have a mind, you can make it your own.

Hi OP! Cool posts!

So have you had any encounters in the astral with beings that were too powerful?
How have you changed your own astral field?

How has life changed since you changed your astral field?

How do you defend yourself against a strong demon?

1. Define "too powerful", by what and who's standards?

2. Not sure what you meant. Uhm. Let's say that I hardly ever get attacked astrally anymore because people noticed that I would bite back. However there's some that still would simply because they lack any intelligent and rational thought, they kind of just have this instinct to kill. Which I guess would be classified as a typical demon, but I hate using that word since there's a race of intelligent beings also called demons who hardly fit the stereotype.

3. Use the natural abilities available to humans. Energy manipulation or magic if you really prefer, however it's hardly as mystical as it seems. It boils down to science, just a sort that hasn't exactly had enough open minded scientists to touch on yet. Using auras as shields ... and much more that I'm hesitant to elaborate on.

Here's an example. Think about what Jesus did in the bible. Those are parlor tricks compared to what everyone knows and practices up there. For whatever reason he seemed to neglect to mention the fact that everyone could learn those abilities and they weren't just mutually exclusive to himself and angels.

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This stuff you guys write makes for an interesting read. I was just wondering if either of you had an opinion on Edgar Cayce? It seems that he did a lot of the same things that the two of you do; except he claimed that he could see the future through these methods.

I personally don't listen to or pay any attention to "prophets". Not because they're not legitimate but simply because there's no such thing as actually predicting the future. It's not something that's set in stone.

What you can do however is predict the most likeliest of outcomes based on reading the current energy and observing the current events, the prediction is simply the outcome of a series of future events that have the most propbability to occur, not that they actually will.

And for every failed prediction there was, it's just as likely that the event did actually occur, but in a different reality instead. Even the most seemingly random actions by one person can change the entire timeline. It's my guess that prophets like Nostradamus and Cayce simply had a really good talent for picking up on these things and being able to decipher the most likeliest of outcomes. But in reality, all of what I just is still just an opinion.

Thank you for responding. When it comes to this sort of thing, my feet are frimly planted in THIS world. But I enjoy reading about these things and I believe the two of you know exactly what you're talking about.

Astral must be a nice pace to have a romance!!!
One in Australia and the other in Canada. Amazing (Or am I wrong?)

Lol maybe I guess if you consider fighting for your life together romantic. o.o

But yes we're currently on opposite sides of the world, but not for long hopefully.

That's good to hear, a lot of people get very carried away with this stuff to the extent of not even wanting to be on this planet anymore, or no longer identifying with the human race. xD