SHTF decision - $470 dollars to spend. AK-47 or Shotgun? | |
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***DRAGOON*** User ID: 1072087 United States 01/01/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got $400 dollars for Christmas, with another 70 I can set aside for gun purchase. So I need help on the next addition to my family. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4399180 I own several handguns and some .22 rifles. I know a shotgun and semi-auto main rifle are a requirement for any good SHTF prep. I can get an AK for $470, or H&R/Mossberg 88 for under $200. With the shotgun I would have plenty of money left over for ammo, but the AK would take up all I have to spend. The left over money from buying a shotgun would be great, but I have a chance to get an AK right now. Tough call. Shotgun or AK-47 for SHTF? Walmart Marlin Model 60 .22 Long Rifle - $140 2,000 round's Winchester .22 Long Rifle $80 H&R 12 Gauge Single Shot - $130 300 rounds #8 Bird Shot - $20 50 Rounds 000-Buckshot - $20 20 Rounds 1oz. Slug - $20 Rifle/Shotgun Cleaning kit - $20 _________________________________________ 1 Rifle & 2,000 rounds 1 Shot Gun & 370 rounds Total $470 Last Edited by ***DRAGOON*** on 01/01/2012 01:31 AM |
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Chippey User ID: 1355971 Ukraine 01/01/2012 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Learn to smile and spend the $$ on something else.If you cant decide what gun to get maybe you wont know how to use it either. You would be the first to get shot. ps I had a SKS (for runner of AK47)back home and had no trouble shooting goats and Red deer. Last Edited by Chippey on 01/01/2012 01:35 AM |
***DRAGOON*** User ID: 1072087 United States 01/01/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got $400 dollars for Christmas, with another 70 I can set aside for gun purchase. So I need help on the next addition to my family. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4399180 I own several handguns and some .22 rifles. I know a shotgun and semi-auto main rifle are a requirement for any good SHTF prep. I can get an AK for $470, or H&R/Mossberg 88 for under $200. With the shotgun I would have plenty of money left over for ammo, but the AK would take up all I have to spend. The left over money from buying a shotgun would be great, but I have a chance to get an AK right now. Tough call. Shotgun or AK-47 for SHTF? Walmart Marlin Model 60 .22 Long Rifle - $140 2,000 round's Winchester .22 Long Rifle $80 H&R 12 Gauge Single Shot - $130 300 rounds #8 Bird Shot - $20 50 Rounds 000-Buckshot - $20 20 Rounds 1oz. Slug - $20 Rifle/Shotgun Cleaning kit - $20 _________________________________________ 1 Rifle & 2,000 rounds 1 Shot Gun & 370 rounds Total $470 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8048797 Turkey 01/01/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you shoot your guns? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028740 If you do you will have a blast with the AK you can get surplus ammo 150$ for 1000 rounds but wouldn't you have to do a lot more cleaning if you use that crappy cheap commie ammo? Whatever ammo you get, you will still have to clear it occassionally if you want it to run smooth, but of course quality is better in war, but that dude will not go to war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8028740 United States 01/01/2012 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you shoot your guns? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028740 If you do you will have a blast with the AK you can get surplus ammo 150$ for 1000 rounds but wouldn't you have to do a lot more cleaning if you use that crappy cheap commie ammo? Maybe 10 minutes more. Who cares they are AK's. Get a chrome lined barellel (non-US)and your good. And if SHTF you'll have plenty of ammo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1379944 United States 01/01/2012 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you shoot your guns? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028740 If you do you will have a blast with the AK you can get surplus ammo 150$ for 1000 rounds but wouldn't you have to do a lot more cleaning if you use that crappy cheap commie ammo? More than likely. The surplus ammo I have to buy for my Mosin Nagant M91/30 has corrosive primers... so I have to clean the shit out of it after using it. The "commie" ammo isn't "crappy" at all... trust me. I was actually just shooting yesterday and a single shot reduced a cinder-block to rubble. Just because it's Russian made, don't think it's "bad." The Russian ammo is full military load... at least the 7.62x54R I use in the Mosin is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8028740 United States 01/01/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you shoot your guns? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028740 If you do you will have a blast with the AK you can get surplus ammo 150$ for 1000 rounds but wouldn't you have to do a lot more cleaning if you use that crappy cheap commie ammo? More than likely. The surplus ammo I have to buy for my Mosin Nagant M91/30 has corrosive primers... so I have to clean the shit out of it after using it. The "commie" ammo isn't "crappy" at all... trust me. I was actually just shooting yesterday and a single shot reduced a cinder-block to rubble. Just because it's Russian made, don't think it's "bad." The Russian ammo is full military load... at least the 7.62x54R I use in the Mosin is. I just went shooting yesturday too, AK-74. Fun as hell. |
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can of whoop ass User ID: 1776599 United States 01/01/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you own several hand guns take one, or two, and barter for an AK. Use your 470 bucks, and buy ammo for it. I'm not sure what kind of .22 rifles you have, a 10-22 should bring you a couple bills. Maybe you could get enough for a Remington 870 magnum express. Think of it as trading up. can of whoop ass |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1061562 United States 01/01/2012 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got $400 dollars for Christmas, with another 70 I can set aside for gun purchase. So I need help on the next addition to my family. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4399180 I own several handguns and some .22 rifles. I know a shotgun and semi-auto main rifle are a requirement for any good SHTF prep. I can get an AK for $470, or H&R/Mossberg 88 for under $200. With the shotgun I would have plenty of money left over for ammo, but the AK would take up all I have to spend. The left over money from buying a shotgun would be great, but I have a chance to get an AK right now. Tough call. Shotgun or AK-47 for SHTF? Very simple Broheim. If you want to defend your home, get a shotgun. If you want to defend your country, get a rifle. Any questions? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8028740 United States 01/01/2012 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got $400 dollars for Christmas, with another 70 I can set aside for gun purchase. So I need help on the next addition to my family. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4399180 I own several handguns and some .22 rifles. I know a shotgun and semi-auto main rifle are a requirement for any good SHTF prep. I can get an AK for $470, or H&R/Mossberg 88 for under $200. With the shotgun I would have plenty of money left over for ammo, but the AK would take up all I have to spend. The left over money from buying a shotgun would be great, but I have a chance to get an AK right now. Tough call. Shotgun or AK-47 for SHTF? Very simple Broheim. If you want to defend your home, get a shotgun. If you want to defend your country, get a rifle. Any questions? You may need both |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1437365 United States 01/01/2012 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go with the Chinese SKS. The last time I went to a gun show (it's been a few years) they were selling new in box for as low as $69 , and the "paratrooper" model (shorter barrel) was going for $99 new. The Russian models (better quality) were going for around $150. Prices may be a bit higher now, but still not as much as AKs. The SKS shoots the same round as the AK-47, and is more accurate (one minute of angle groups at 100 meters is typical). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7394747 Canada 01/01/2012 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would buy an AR upper or a mini 14. The russian guns are good for training and practice, but I want something better for SHTF and more ammo commonality. You are probably not going to find as mich x39 as 5.56 , 308 and 30 06 22lr and 12 guage ammo when scavenging. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8028740 United States 01/01/2012 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go with the Chinese SKS. The last time I went to a gun show (it's been a few years) they were selling new in box for as low as $69 , and the "paratrooper" model (shorter barrel) was going for $99 new. The Russian models (better quality) were going for around $150. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437365 Prices may be a bit higher now, but still not as much as AKs. The SKS shoots the same round as the AK-47, and is more accurate (one minute of angle groups at 100 meters is typical). I think they are around 300$ now |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1379944 United States 01/01/2012 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go with the Chinese SKS. The last time I went to a gun show (it's been a few years) they were selling new in box for as low as $69 , and the "paratrooper" model (shorter barrel) was going for $99 new. The Russian models (better quality) were going for around $150. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1437365 Prices may be a bit higher now, but still not as much as AKs. The SKS shoots the same round as the AK-47, and is more accurate (one minute of angle groups at 100 meters is typical). I think they are around 300$ now They are... the supply got bought up because of the low prices. I expect Mosin Nagant 91/30's to go up in price soon too.... they are about $99 right now... but people are buying them left and right because they are cheap, reliable, accurate, and the ammo is cheap. |