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Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!

 
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Especially for a pastor such as yourself?...

Revelation 3:16
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.




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Why of course, Daniel!! (And btw, I'm not a 'pastor')
 Quoting: Life and Love



Well, you at least you responded!

So, when you give a Sunday sermon, do they give you a title?

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hello daniel. I hope your doing good this evening. Please don't scare off people i like! (love ya anyway)
 Quoting: Aiyanna



The feelings are mutual! (and include L&L)

He's not scared- just a little lost:)



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I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
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what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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On the subject of burning in hell from my Mother, circa 1968 I asked my mother about my sins and would I burn in hell. I was 14 years old, had lost my virginity and Mom found out.

Her reply:
"The bible tells us that God loves us more than our own parents can imagine. If that is true, with as much as I love you and your brother, no matter what sin you committed, I would never want to see you burn in hell."

I trust my Mother's instincts on this. The bible has many great lessons in it, but it also has the hands of man on it. Which makes is suspect to me.

And - I live a good an honest life. I do not believe that because I don't follow a doctrine that I'm going to burn in a lake of fire. That, is not the act of a merciful God, for simple human 'mis-understanding' (if that's what it truly is) while living the 'right life' anyway.
 Quoting: hannah50


Your 'good deeds' are as filthy rags unto the LORD.
Either Jesus paid for your sins, or YOU will.
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OK look here, IF god created us..he created us to have the mentality that we do. Why is he going to rip my soul out of my skin and throw me into a fire lake ..FOR WHAT..? what will that teach me? will i be scared and shaken up and say i'm sorry? what is the point of killing my soul like i went around killing people my whole life? because i cursed? Because i didn't sacrifice enough animals? WHAT?? what did WE do so wrong THAT WAS NOT IN OUR INSTINT'S to do? If we are so fucked up and sinning all over the place because i worked on the "sabbath" day why did he create me like this? I see no point in him creating a monster and then punishing me for how i came out.

Think about this for one minete. Say you gave birth to a child. This child -doesn't know better- but didn't listen to you and touched the fire on the hot stove anyway and ends up losing his/her hand in the incident. Are you going to punish that child further? Are you going to throw the child out on the street to starve? HAS HE/SHE not suffered enough with the loss of his/her hand. when does the line need to be drawn? Will you hate this child in the future when he/she doesn't get a job because of their handicapp?

If he created me he created me FUCKED UP. why do i need to be punished over and over when i obviously can't help it. I'm not eve. We killed jesus for this apparent saving from our sins. why do people need to even be sacrificed because he created me fucked up. (in his eyes of coarse)
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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I'm not the one walking around screaming at people there gonna get raped by demons in the lake of fire..so considering that i got my grip. thanks tho!
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Your not going to burn in hell ,the very worst that can happen to you is that your energy,will be cleansed when you pass and you will loose that part of yourself that is negative.
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Your not going to burn in hell ,the very worst that can happen to you is that your energy,will be cleansed when you pass and you will loose that part of yourself that is negative.
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I don't know if you will even see this post, but it is answer your first question. How will you suffer in hell if you don't have a body(though you won't suffer exactly how you described). . . but yo will have your body. After you die here, your spirit will still be alive and you will wait until the last resurrection (Judgment Day) it is called the second resurrection. But you will have your body in hell.

Resurrection Of The Unrighteous

The resurrection of the unrighteous is also described in Scripture by a number of different terms.

1. The Resurrection To Disgrace And Contempt

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt (Daniel 12:2).

2. The Resurrection Of Condemnation

Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28,29).

3. The Resurrection Of The Unrighteous

have a hope in God - a hope that they themselves also accept - that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24:15).


***I think it is great that you are thinking about all this and asking questions. Blind faith is stupid, but there are answers to your questions. God is real and He wants to reveal Himself to you. You still have time to avoid judgment.

If you want to go to heaven, God has already made the way for you. But you need to come to Him and ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. I am praying for you.
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna




I personally believe,we create in our minds while living life our own belief of what will happen to ourselves,once we get to the other side.so if I believe all mysteries of our universe will be revealed,an I get to see all the family and friends I loved whom have went before me,this will most likely be the case.....If not then Gods got some explaining to do....
 Quoting: Apache


I agree. someone gonna need to explain alot to me if this was the case. I know i'm one of the most skeptical pain in the butt around! So if i do make it somewhere "nice" I'll be the one with the huge list of questions!
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GOD's got some explaining to do....to you??? Huh? Think about it....the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE is going to answer to you?

Sorry, but it is the other way around. People are not thinking clearly on this.

The pot does tell the potter what to do or not do.

We don't set the rules. You might want to....or think you do.....but you don't.

You didn't ask to be born....and you don't know what is going to happen to you tomorrow...

you could die....be in a a car accident....get a really, really bad flu .... etc.

The LORD must look down at us and shake HIS head as many clutch their fist at HIM....

HE is watching and listening to everything on this thread...

one day we will ALL GIVE AN ACCOUNT...

and it may be sooner than later for some......

BE WARNED!
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


But why must we be worthless pots? (using your example) Your right about that i didn't ask to be born therefore i don't think questioning things is completly off the spectrum here. I mean my child will eventually ask (as all children do) where did they come from. I'm not gonna cast them out of the house and get all crazy and mighty on them. Maybe if their wasn't so much fear involved in questioning others would have the balls to ask a few too. If questioning is too much even..simple questions is a sin. I know where i don't want to be. I don't want to live in fear of a over active temper..do u see what i'm saying?
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
Your sinful self will just get really hot and burn. And it will really be uncomfortable for you.
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Your not going to burn in hell ,the very worst that can happen to you is that your energy,will be cleansed when you pass and you will loose that part of yourself that is negative.
 Quoting: Trini 1019340


clappa
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wrong.

sounds good and nice and all.

but totally not true.

your spirit will live on after you die.

it will not cease.

it is eternal.

seek the truth and you will find it...

if you seek it with all of your heart.
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But why must we be worthless pots? (using your example) Your right about that i didn't ask to be born therefore i don't think questioning things is completly off the spectrum here. I mean my child will eventually ask (as all children do) where did they come from. I'm not gonna cast them out of the house and get all crazy and mighty on them. Maybe if their wasn't so much fear involved in questioning others would have the balls to ask a few too. If questioning is too much even..simple questions is a sin. I know where i don't want to be. I don't want to live in fear of a over active temper..do u see what i'm saying?
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Seems like a lot of lives run on fear, guilt, and Maalox. Fear is an effective "management" tool, and there are a lot of people who aren't 'afraid' to use it.
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
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I'm not the one walking around screaming at people there gonna get raped by demons in the lake of fire..so considering that i got my grip. thanks tho!



That is terrible that someone would say that to you. That is so rude and it isn't true. Demons will not be raping people in hell.

Hell is created as a punishment for demons and Satan. They will be tormented too, not the tormentors.

People will go to hell too, but they have a way out, not the demons.
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I don't know if you will even see this post, but it is answer your first question. How will you suffer in hell if you don't have a body(though you won't suffer exactly how you described). . . but yo will have your body. After you die here, your spirit will still be alive and you will wait until the last resurrection (Judgment Day) it is called the second resurrection. But you will have your body in hell.

Resurrection Of The Unrighteous

The resurrection of the unrighteous is also described in Scripture by a number of different terms.

1. The Resurrection To Disgrace And Contempt

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt (Daniel 12:2).

2. The Resurrection Of Condemnation

Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28,29).

3. The Resurrection Of The Unrighteous

have a hope in God - a hope that they themselves also accept - that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24:15).


***I think it is great that you are thinking about all this and asking questions. Blind faith is stupid, but there are answers to your questions. God is real and He wants to reveal Himself to you. You still have time to avoid judgment.

If you want to go to heaven, God has already made the way for you. But you need to come to Him and ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. I am praying for you.
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I see it ! thank you for the reply it was very nice!
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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But why must we be worthless pots? (using your example) Your right about that i didn't ask to be born therefore i don't think questioning things is completly off the spectrum here. I mean my child will eventually ask (as all children do) where did they come from. I'm not gonna cast them out of the house and get all crazy and mighty on them. Maybe if their wasn't so much fear involved in questioning others would have the balls to ask a few too. If questioning is too much even..simple questions is a sin. I know where i don't want to be. I don't want to live in fear of a over active temper..do u see what i'm saying?
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Seems like a lot of lives run on fear, guilt, and Maalox. Fear is an effective "management" tool, and there are a lot of people who aren't 'afraid' to use it.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Exactly. what i'm having the most issue with (an issue all its own) is the fear tactics used to get you to follow. I mean, seriously if i'm afraid of something i'm gonna run from it. If i have a murderer living next door am i gonna worship it more..or move? I'm gonna move of coarse! Some people might bow down and obey. but i'm not the type. I don't want to live in fear and i will block that fear. i can't imagine living in fear even being healthy for you. Personally if god was more "lovable" instead of using "kind" jesus to win us over maybe more people would at least want to believe.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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To 'Enter' into eternal anything is impossible as by definition eternity can have no end and hence no beginning. We are already in eternity and throughout eternity, we all pass in and out of an infinite number of conditions.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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I personally believe,we create in our minds while living life our own belief of what will happen to ourselves,once we get to the other side.so if I believe all mysteries of our universe will be revealed,an I get to see all the family and friends I loved whom have went before me,this will most likely be the case.....If not then Gods got some explaining to do....
 Quoting: Apache


I agree. someone gonna need to explain alot to me if this was the case. I know i'm one of the most skeptical pain in the butt around! So if i do make it somewhere "nice" I'll be the one with the huge list of questions!
 Quoting: Aiyanna



GOD's got some explaining to do....to you??? Huh? Think about it....the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE is going to answer to you?

Sorry, but it is the other way around. People are not thinking clearly on this.

The pot does tell the potter what to do or not do.

We don't set the rules. You might want to....or think you do.....but you don't.

You didn't ask to be born....and you don't know what is going to happen to you tomorrow...

you could die....be in a a car accident....get a really, really bad flu .... etc.

The LORD must look down at us and shake HIS head as many clutch their fist at HIM....

HE is watching and listening to everything on this thread...

one day we will ALL GIVE AN ACCOUNT...

and it may be sooner than later for some......

BE WARNED!
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


But why must we be worthless pots? (using your example) Your right about that i didn't ask to be born therefore i don't think questioning things is completly off the spectrum here. I mean my child will eventually ask (as all children do) where did they come from. I'm not gonna cast them out of the house and get all crazy and mighty on them. Maybe if their wasn't so much fear involved in questioning others would have the balls to ask a few too. If questioning is too much even..simple questions is a sin. I know where i don't want to be. I don't want to live in fear of a over active temper..do u see what i'm saying?
 Quoting: Aiyanna


yes, I see what you're saying.

but you've such a warped view of GOD.

You are believing the lies about how mean and terrible GOD is.

This is such a distortion of the truth.

GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH!

HE gave you the very AIR THAT YOU BREATHE

HE is your heavenly FATHER...

HE wishes that NO ONE...not one would perish...

HE sent HIS SON to redeem us...

JESUS paid the most awful death as an exchange for us.

You see, GOD is holy...

and since we aren't, HE found a way for us to be....through HIS SON....

We take on CHRIST'S holiness and then we can enter the presence of GOD.

At the cross there was the GREAT EXCHANGE...

it was GOD's LOVE GIFT TO YOU!

LISTEN, the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY is loving, faithful, merciful and longsuffering...

HE patiently is waiting for all to come to HIM...

HE LOVES YOU.....

and is waiting with arms wide open...

don't turn HIM away....

don't reject HIM....

RECEIVE HIM and your life will change....

that is a promise!!!
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Exactly. what i'm having the most issue with (an issue all its own) is the fear tactics used to get you to follow. I mean, seriously if i'm afraid of something i'm gonna run from it. If i have a murderer living next door am i gonna worship it more..or move? I'm gonna move of coarse! Some people might bow down and obey. but i'm not the type. I don't want to live in fear and i will block that fear. i can't imagine living in fear even being healthy for you. Personally if god was more "lovable" instead of using "kind" jesus to win us over maybe more people would at least want to believe.
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Thing is, I don't think it's the "good cop, bad cop" in reality, just in the minds of some who like the wield the "fear tool."
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I personally believe,we create in our minds while living life our own belief of what will happen to ourselves,once we get to the other side.so if I believe all mysteries of our universe will be revealed,an I get to see all the family and friends I loved whom have went before me,this will most likely be the case.....If not then Gods got some explaining to do....
 Quoting: Apache


I agree. someone gonna need to explain alot to me if this was the case. I know i'm one of the most skeptical pain in the butt around! So if i do make it somewhere "nice" I'll be the one with the huge list of questions!
 Quoting: Aiyanna



GOD's got some explaining to do....to you??? Huh? Think about it....the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE is going to answer to you?

Sorry, but it is the other way around. People are not thinking clearly on this.

The pot does tell the potter what to do or not do.


 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


But why must we be worthless pots?
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She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?


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The thing about extreme religion nuts that cracks me up, is they quote a book written by a man as proof that their god exists and that they're right about said topic.

So, in my opinion you could quote something out of a harry potter book, and I'd give you just as much credit..
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And what does it matter what you say?
Aren't you alive for a mere if your health lasts, 70-100 years, without any accidents of other health malays falling your way?

What do you think to know of God?
Can you even turn the rocks into bread or say to a lame person "get up and walk" and will he be healed?

Can you raise the dead?

Your one to talk with bold words and excercising of just your tongue.

Is this the only muscle you have command over?

Pity the person who has faith in himself, for then he has faith in nothing.

In Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1159544


Well possibly everyones opinions matters whether it matters to you or not i don't know..
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Who told you everyone's opinion matters?
Or that even everyone's opinions are right?

Stop listening to the bullshit called "political correctness".

There is an absolute RIGHT and WRONG.
Those are outlined in the Book called the Bible that God gave us so that we would know what is RIGHT and WRONG.

any opinion that does not conform to the message contained in this book, the Words of Life, does not matter.

For in the end, Jesus Christ is the Final Judge.
This is HIS story not yours or mine.

In Jesus Christ.
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You're cute. It's too bad you're a religion nut.
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
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what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
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thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


You're getting caught up in what other people think and interpret about the Bible and the afterlife. Maybe instead, you should take a step back to discern the facts.

To me, it seems that this is the crux that everyone bases their belief on God. Whether or not Heaven and Hell exists... In my honest opinion this obviously plays into a material and emotional attachment the individual has while experiencing this material existence.

Nevertheless, many would want to hope that Heaven is real because they wish to see their lost loved ones on the other-side. On the reverse, they feel that if they buy into Heaven, they have to buy into Hell too and that if they are a bad Christian - they'll go to a lake of fire for ever and ever and ever Amen.

But again, what has shaped this perception of the afterlife? What purpose does fearing death have? No one wants to die, we don't know what is on the otherside, even though there are many who have claimed to have gone there or what have you.

REGARDLESS, to me, Heaven and Hell is as simple as Christ had explained it. Heaven and Hell is found within, to find atonement, or At-one-ment, to be at peace - to no longer fight the inner demons and accepting who you are. This is heaven, it is a state of mind. Like a monk at a monastry who meditates daily - this is the same process. To reach enlightenment.

Hell - is to me, not a place you go, but again a state of mind. Hell is to live each day with a burning regret inside. To never let go of your mistakes. Christ taught that we are all born of Sin and that we are all imperfect in the eyes of the Lord.

Indeed this would be true because we are sinful lusty creatures. I have no problem accepting what I am. Again though, those who regret and fight the tide, never accepting and yet live on to carry their grudge, they are burning inside. They are in hell. As their miserable world spirals out of control, who will save their fall?

Again, step back and think about the information you receive. Then, the easiest thing to ask yourself is what purpose does this serve? If you find yourself answering by saying either fear or control, then that is MANS influence. God gave you freewill.
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I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
 Quoting: Lilbabez33


what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
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thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Most people were cannibals if we go too far back. Again, Christ is to save our humanity and lead us away from the temptations of being a barbarian. It had more to do with civilizing man than anything else.
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I agree. someone gonna need to explain alot to me if this was the case. I know i'm one of the most skeptical pain in the butt around! So if i do make it somewhere "nice" I'll be the one with the huge list of questions!
 Quoting: Aiyanna



GOD's got some explaining to do....to you??? Huh? Think about it....the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE is going to answer to you?

Sorry, but it is the other way around. People are not thinking clearly on this.

The pot does tell the potter what to do or not do.


 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


But why must we be worthless pots?
 Quoting: Aiyanna



She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 8285306


yes but you missed My point. If i'm just his creation that needs to bow down and shut-up with my questions what kind worth am i? Its not like i'd be attacking him or anything horrible..i just don't understand why this is an accepted form of "fatherly love".
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
Hell is one of the biggest falsehoods to come out of organized religion.
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
 Quoting: Lilbabez33


what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7078293


thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.





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