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Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!

 
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Come on OP...you're an Atheist and we know it.
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Right, just a mean-hearted troll. Always assume the worst - that's what Jebus would do

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Why is it bad to be a Atheist?
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Aiyanna,

I don't think anyone can completely answer you question. We see only dimly the spiritual world.

This I know....

Hell is eternal separation from the LORD.

If you don't know HIM here on earth, then you won't know HIM after you die.

Hell was not created for humans, but rather the devil and his fallen angels.

However, whoever purposely chooses and rejects the LORD will have a 'not so special place' spiritually.

If you go to youtube, there are quite a lot of people who have had 'near death' experiences. Some have even gone to see hell as well as heaven. They are all a bit different, but do have a central theme.

Hope this helps....

P.S. THE FREE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE AND RECEIVE.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Thank you for the reply! so what your basically saying that when people are screaming others are going to hell for "not" believing etc..is the not the matter of if hell is pyhsical or spiritual its going to be painful when you rejected the relationship with god (or the concept of God) all together?
 Quoting: Aiyanna


First, you need to be asking the right questions.

Like, is there is a GOD who made me? Is there a Creator of the Universe or was it all a part of evolution and the big bang theory. This would be step one.

For me, I studied different religions and compared them. I realized that could only be ONE TRUTH for all people.

There could be only ONE CREATOR....

That is when I cried out and asked GOD if HE was real, could be show HIMSELF to me....

that was the beginning...

it is about the search for ultimate TRUTH...

Is there life after death???

You betcha there is!!!
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Some good stuff coming up so far. I'm gonna try and say all this slow for you hardline bible-humpers, because it's pretty vital stuff:

The fire that God uses is not literal fire.

He says several places in the old testament that the concept of burning people is an *abomination* (Deuteronomy 14, Jeremiah 7, 19 & 32).

Likewise, here are some things which He uses the symbol of "fire" to describe:

"Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24)

"Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23

He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104)

fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4

Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20


Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies.

The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . .


Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3

"By mercy and truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16

"The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The desire of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112

"For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5

The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7332221


For a fire has been kindled by my wrath, one that burns to the realm of death below. It will devour the earth and its harvests and set afire the foundations of the mountains. Deuteronomy 32:22
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How sobering! All that sick torture makes my heart wanna love Jebus!

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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Why would you assume that is your fate?

Do you feel fearful? Miserable? Despair?

I would suggest that if you do not feel these things that you are not guilty of anything that would land you there.
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As far as I am concerned, we are already in Hell.
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Some good stuff coming up so far. I'm gonna try and say all this slow for you hardline bible-humpers, because it's pretty vital stuff:

The fire that God uses is not literal fire.

He says several places in the old testament that the concept of burning people is an *abomination* (Deuteronomy 14, Jeremiah 7, 19 & 32).

Likewise, here are some things which He uses the symbol of "fire" to describe:

"Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24)

"Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23

He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104)

fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4

Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20


Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies.

The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . .


Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3

"By mercy and truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16

"The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The desire of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112

"For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5

The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7332221


For a fire has been kindled by my wrath, one that burns to the realm of death below. It will devour the earth and its harvests and set afire the foundations of the mountains. Deuteronomy 32:22
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So, is this volcanic activity, or what? Please clarify. It says nothing of any afterlife, and "mountains" are always symbolic of kingdoms.
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


If you don't believe in God then there is no such thing as hell.
 Quoting: KMartin


Well this whole concept makes me ponder on the fact that there is no rashional logic backing the fear that religion has placed in order. Does this physical fire burning you in spiritual reality make sense to someone with the fear in place? I do not believe in the religion god- in the concepts that they lay out to follow. I'm basically sitting on a fence with no proof either way. So i remain in the shadows with the belief that the bible is a bunch of stolen mythological stories.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Come on OP...you're an Atheist and we know it.
 Quoting: Chop's


Hey watch it chops! to me its doing no good to label. Whats a label anyway..why do i need to fit in anywhere? I believe in a "higher power" i live my life with morals and love for all people and life in general. I have read the bible -all forms of them (lol)- and have read lots of mythological stories. I have done so much research on this I can't tell up from down anymore on this stuff. But who needs to anyway? Its not anyone can prove god to be real or not! So why not just be good people!
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Just to think..God in his GREAT LOVE created all those tortures for MOST of his creatures to enjoy for all eternity...MOST of them for being so foolish as to be born into the wrong religion or time period.

OH the great and everloving love of JESUS!!

GLO REH!

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eternal separation from the LORD.
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No such state exists. Psalm 139 says God is even in "hell" (sheol), and Revelation 14 says those in the lake of fire will be in the presence of the Lamb.
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Think of it this way.
God is Eternal.
He fills all of Eternity.
There is no place in Eternity you can go that you can escape God.

But God has given you a free will when He created you and respects your right of choice.

Once you were born, you were born for eternity, your body dies but your spirit is eternal.

But how can a dead spirit dwell with the living God?
Or how can an ABSOLUTELY GOOD God tolerate the SIN in you, in the ETERNITY that is His domain?

He could just uncreate you, but wouldn't that be violating FREE WILL HE gave you?

Therefore, The Eternal Lake of Fire is a place of CONSTANT PURIFICATION in the presence of God.

But since you cannot be truly purified, only the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST can do this for you, you will be in constant FIRE being purified for a sins that will remain with you forever.

In Jesus Christ.
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If you don't believe in God then there is no such thing as hell.
 Quoting: KMartin


Well this whole concept makes me ponder on the fact that there is no rashional logic backing the fear that religion has placed in order. Does this physical fire burning you in spiritual reality make sense to someone with the fear in place? I do not believe in the religion god- in the concepts that they lay out to follow. I'm basically sitting on a fence with no proof either way. So i remain in the shadows with the belief that the bible is a bunch of stolen mythological stories.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Come on OP...you're an Atheist and we know it.
 Quoting: Chop's


Hey watch it chops! to me its doing no good to label. Whats a label anyway..why do i need to fit in anywhere? I believe in a "higher power" i live my life with morals and love for all people and life in general. I have read the bible -all forms of them (lol)- and have read lots of mythological stories. I have done so much research on this I can't tell up from down anymore on this stuff. But who needs to anyway? Its not anyone can prove god to be real or not! So why not just be good people!
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Because "good" is relative.
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Why would you assume that is your fate?

Do you feel fearful? Miserable? Despair?

I would suggest that if you do not feel these things that you are not guilty of anything that would land you there.
 Quoting: Lord Martial


Well if i were to sum myself as a person up i would be quite pleased with myself. But there are differences in opinion on what truly will land someone in hell. And boy have i heard them all. I am gulity of questioning religion and the true meaning behind it-yes!
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


There IS a God. There is no hell. The idea of hell was created in order to convert people to religion. You don't need orginized religion to know God because God is in everything.

"Split a tree and you will find me. Turn a rock and I am there"


No need to worry about what other people think about God and how you are supposed to go about having a relationship with him.
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Remember the above post well.
It is a very SCARY prospect of burning forever.
IT IS LITERAL.

The parable of the rich man and lazarus shows this well, for those of you who doubt in a literal burning hell.

And Jesus Christ says it several times in REVELATION of eternal fire and the smoke of their burning.

In Jesus Christ.
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But God has given you a free will when He created you and respects your right of choice.
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Again I ask: why can't you?


But since you cannot be truly purified
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Tongabot


Wow, really. And you've come to this conclusion how?

(I'm In Christ, btw)
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This all ties in well with the idea of burnt sacrifices that the jewish people had to do before Jesus Christ for purification of their sins.

That the animal that they were sacrificing was in place of you and that was CONSUMED BY FIRE.
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


You'll not burn in hell. That line is for flouride and fast food affected brains.
hf
 Quoting: Kael


Well i do not like fast food so i guess i'm on the right track to avoid the spiritual "physical" burnings then! yay for me..lol hf
 Quoting: Aiyanna


HOw does fast food effect you in soul form?

LOL just saying. Ive drank hella tap water and eaten hella fast food in my life. NOt saying i wouldnt have been better without. But its not the end all be all.


But yea good point. How does something metaphysical get burned and raped.
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But God has given you a free will when He created you and respects your right of choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Tongabot


Again I ask: why can't you?


But since you cannot be truly purified
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Tongabot


Wow, really. And you've come to this conclusion how?

(I'm In Christ, btw)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7332221



Because it says LITERALLY in the Bible like a MILLION times that the only way to salvation in through JESUS CHRIST.

IF you were in Christ why don't you know this?

As for your other question of "why can't you", why can't you what?
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Because it says LITERALLY in the Bible like a MILLION times that the only way to salvation in through JESUS CHRIST.

IF you were in Christ why don't you know this?
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Agreed. I never claimed or even implied otherwise.
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The thing about extreme religion nuts that cracks me up, is they quote a book written by a man as proof that their god exists and that they're right about said topic.

So, in my opinion you could quote something out of a harry potter book, and get just as much proof of something..

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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


You'll not burn in hell. That line is for flouride and fast food affected brains.
hf
 Quoting: Kael


Well i do not like fast food so i guess i'm on the right track to avoid the spiritual "physical" burnings then! yay for me..lol hf
 Quoting: Aiyanna


HOw does fast food effect you in soul form?

LOL just saying. Ive drank hella tap water and eaten hella fast food in my life. NOt saying i wouldnt have been better without. But its not the end all be all.


But yea good point. How does something metaphysical get burned and raped.
 Quoting: Fatstogie


I don't know how fast food lands you to the fire pits..but it makes just as much sense as spiritually burning physically! LOL
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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What hell? Evidence?
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Christ is a level of consciousness.

The only way yada yada yada, is through jesus christ.

WWJD. Wasnt merely meant to ask what he would do, but to do what he would to. To attain that level of consciousness.

1 man cannot change shit on earth. God will not change shit on earth. Everything is sacred exactly as it is. When christ consciousness proliferates through the people, the entire planet will be elevated.
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The thing about extreme religion nuts that cracks me up, is they quote a book written by a man as proof that their god exists and that they're right about said topic.

So, in my opinion you could quote something out of a harry potter book, and I'd give you just as much credit..
 Quoting: Ganjapoof



And what does it matter what you say?
Aren't you alive for a mere if your health lasts, 70-100 years, without any accidents of other health malays falling your way?

What do you think to know of God?
Can you even turn the rocks into bread or say to a lame person "get up and walk" and will he be healed?

Can you raise the dead?

Your one to talk with bold words and excercising of just your tongue.

Is this the only muscle you have command over?

Pity the person who has faith in himself, for then he has faith in nothing.

In Jesus Christ.
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If you don't believe in God then there is no such thing as hell.
 Quoting: KMartin


Well this whole concept makes me ponder on the fact that there is no rashional logic backing the fear that religion has placed in order. Does this physical fire burning you in spiritual reality make sense to someone with the fear in place? I do not believe in the religion god- in the concepts that they lay out to follow. I'm basically sitting on a fence with no proof either way. So i remain in the shadows with the belief that the bible is a bunch of stolen mythological stories.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Come on OP...you're an Atheist and we know it.
 Quoting: Chop's


Hey watch it chops! to me its doing no good to label. Whats a label anyway..why do i need to fit in anywhere? I believe in a "higher power" i live my life with morals and love for all people and life in general. I have read the bible -all forms of them (lol)- and have read lots of mythological stories. I have done so much research on this I can't tell up from down anymore on this stuff. But who needs to anyway? Its not anyone can prove god to be real or not! So why not just be good people!
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Being a good person is NOT your ticket into heaven! It sounds great and all, but it will only serve you here on earth.

Why? Because you are made up of the physical AND the spiriutal. Doing 'good deeds' works is the physical world--not the spiritual.

You have go be 'born again' into the spiritual world to get to heaven.

JESUS said it this way:

Jhn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. [fn]"


Jhn 3:4 "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"


Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.


Jhn 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit [fn] gives birth to spirit.


Jhn 3:7 You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You [fn] must be born again.'

Jhn 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."



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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
The thing about extreme religion nuts that cracks me up, is they quote a book written by a man as proof that their god exists and that they're right about said topic.

So, in my opinion you could quote something out of a harry potter book, and get just as much credit..
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One thing is what the Bible says - an another issue whether you believe it.
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The thing about extreme religion nuts that cracks me up, is they quote a book written by a man as proof that their god exists and that they're right about said topic.

So, in my opinion you could quote something out of a harry potter book, and get just as much proof of something..
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exactly this
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Being a good person is NOT your ticket into heaven! It sounds great and all, but it will only serve you here on earth.
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Listen, *fuck* "heaven". Be good because it serves others.

Abandon the "what do I get out of it" BS.
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Ive been told and believe that in the4 spirit world spirit to spirit interactions arec physical just like material to material interactions are physical so it means a spirit can harm another spirit and that body of the spirit is just on another wavelength or whatever its still a body
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?

IF there is..his WILL is limited..and so is his strength and power.

Therefore he is NOT all powerful and his will means NOTHING because our measly and weak HUMAN will overrides HIS will.

So everything he did..dying on the cross ect..was all for NOTHING because in the end he saved only a FEW out of UNTOLD BILLIONS.

Yeah..mission accomplished..NOT!

And whats worse..all those he COULD NOT SAVE because HIS WILL was not strong enough..and his LOVE failed to redeem them..THEY..are all going to be tortured alive forever in a fit of holy RAGE at being unable to save them..so instead..he TORTURES them forever..because he could NOT GET HIS WAY and SAVE MANKIND like he STATED he would do.

FAIL!

FOLLOW THE GOD THAT FAILED!!!





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