Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!

The feelings are mutual! (and include L&L)

He's not scared- just a little lost:)



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what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews

OK look here, IF god created us..he created us to have the mentality that we do. Why is he going to rip my soul out of my skin and throw me into a fire lake ..FOR WHAT..? what will that teach me? will i be scared and shaken up and say i'm sorry? what is the point of killing my soul like i went around killing people my whole life? because i cursed? Because i didn't sacrifice enough animals? WHAT?? what did WE do so wrong THAT WAS NOT IN OUR INSTINT'S to do? If we are so fucked up and sinning all over the place because i worked on the "sabbath" day why did he create me like this? I see no point in him creating a monster and then punishing me for how i came out.

Think about this for one minete. Say you gave birth to a child. This child -doesn't know better- but didn't listen to you and touched the fire on the hot stove anyway and ends up losing his/her hand in the incident. Are you going to punish that child further? Are you going to throw the child out on the street to starve? HAS HE/SHE not suffered enough with the loss of his/her hand. when does the line need to be drawn? Will you hate this child in the future when he/she doesn't get a job because of their handicapp?

If he created me he created me FUCKED UP. why do i need to be punished over and over when i obviously can't help it. I'm not eve. We killed jesus for this apparent saving from our sins. why do people need to even be sacrificed because he created me fucked up. (in his eyes of coarse)

I'm not the one walking around screaming at people there gonna get raped by demons in the lake of fire..so considering that i got my grip. thanks tho!

Your not going to burn in hell ,the very worst that can happen to you is that your energy,will be cleansed when you pass and you will loose that part of yourself that is negative.

I don't know if you will even see this post, but it is answer your first question. How will you suffer in hell if you don't have a body(though you won't suffer exactly how you described). . . but yo will have your body. After you die here, your spirit will still be alive and you will wait until the last resurrection (Judgment Day) it is called the second resurrection. But you will have your body in hell.

Resurrection Of The Unrighteous

The resurrection of the unrighteous is also described in Scripture by a number of different terms.

1. The Resurrection To Disgrace And Contempt

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt (Daniel 12:2).

2. The Resurrection Of Condemnation

Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28,29).

3. The Resurrection Of The Unrighteous

have a hope in God - a hope that they themselves also accept - that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24:15).


***I think it is great that you are thinking about all this and asking questions. Blind faith is stupid, but there are answers to your questions. God is real and He wants to reveal Himself to you. You still have time to avoid judgment.

If you want to go to heaven, God has already made the way for you. But you need to come to Him and ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. I am praying for you.

But why must we be worthless pots? (using your example) Your right about that i didn't ask to be born therefore i don't think questioning things is completly off the spectrum here. I mean my child will eventually ask (as all children do) where did they come from. I'm not gonna cast them out of the house and get all crazy and mighty on them. Maybe if their wasn't so much fear involved in questioning others would have the balls to ask a few too. If questioning is too much even..simple questions is a sin. I know where i don't want to be. I don't want to live in fear of a over active temper..do u see what i'm saying?

Your sinful self will just get really hot and burn. And it will really be uncomfortable for you.

wrong.

sounds good and nice and all.

but totally not true.

your spirit will live on after you die.

it will not cease.

it is eternal.

seek the truth and you will find it...

if you seek it with all of your heart.

Seems like a lot of lives run on fear, guilt, and Maalox. Fear is an effective "management" tool, and there are a lot of people who aren't 'afraid' to use it.

I'm not the one walking around screaming at people there gonna get raped by demons in the lake of fire..so considering that i got my grip. thanks tho!



That is terrible that someone would say that to you. That is so rude and it isn't true. Demons will not be raping people in hell.

Hell is created as a punishment for demons and Satan. They will be tormented too, not the tormentors.

People will go to hell too, but they have a way out, not the demons.

I see it ! thank you for the reply it was very nice!

Exactly. what i'm having the most issue with (an issue all its own) is the fear tactics used to get you to follow. I mean, seriously if i'm afraid of something i'm gonna run from it. If i have a murderer living next door am i gonna worship it more..or move? I'm gonna move of coarse! Some people might bow down and obey. but i'm not the type. I don't want to live in fear and i will block that fear. i can't imagine living in fear even being healthy for you. Personally if god was more "lovable" instead of using "kind" jesus to win us over maybe more people would at least want to believe.

To 'Enter' into eternal anything is impossible as by definition eternity can have no end and hence no beginning. We are already in eternity and throughout eternity, we all pass in and out of an infinite number of conditions.

yes, I see what you're saying.

but you've such a warped view of GOD.

You are believing the lies about how mean and terrible GOD is.

This is such a distortion of the truth.

GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH!

HE gave you the very AIR THAT YOU BREATHE

HE is your heavenly FATHER...

HE wishes that NO ONE...not one would perish...

HE sent HIS SON to redeem us...

JESUS paid the most awful death as an exchange for us.

You see, GOD is holy...

and since we aren't, HE found a way for us to be....through HIS SON....

We take on CHRIST'S holiness and then we can enter the presence of GOD.

At the cross there was the GREAT EXCHANGE...

it was GOD's LOVE GIFT TO YOU!

LISTEN, the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY is loving, faithful, merciful and longsuffering...

HE patiently is waiting for all to come to HIM...

HE LOVES YOU.....

and is waiting with arms wide open...

don't turn HIM away....

don't reject HIM....

RECEIVE HIM and your life will change....

that is a promise!!!

Thing is, I don't think it's the "good cop, bad cop" in reality, just in the minds of some who like the wield the "fear tool."

She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?


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You're cute. It's too bad you're a religion nut.

thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..

You're getting caught up in what other people think and interpret about the Bible and the afterlife. Maybe instead, you should take a step back to discern the facts.

To me, it seems that this is the crux that everyone bases their belief on God. Whether or not Heaven and Hell exists... In my honest opinion this obviously plays into a material and emotional attachment the individual has while experiencing this material existence.

Nevertheless, many would want to hope that Heaven is real because they wish to see their lost loved ones on the other-side. On the reverse, they feel that if they buy into Heaven, they have to buy into Hell too and that if they are a bad Christian - they'll go to a lake of fire for ever and ever and ever Amen.

But again, what has shaped this perception of the afterlife? What purpose does fearing death have? No one wants to die, we don't know what is on the otherside, even though there are many who have claimed to have gone there or what have you.

REGARDLESS, to me, Heaven and Hell is as simple as Christ had explained it. Heaven and Hell is found within, to find atonement, or At-one-ment, to be at peace - to no longer fight the inner demons and accepting who you are. This is heaven, it is a state of mind. Like a monk at a monastry who meditates daily - this is the same process. To reach enlightenment.

Hell - is to me, not a place you go, but again a state of mind. Hell is to live each day with a burning regret inside. To never let go of your mistakes. Christ taught that we are all born of Sin and that we are all imperfect in the eyes of the Lord.

Indeed this would be true because we are sinful lusty creatures. I have no problem accepting what I am. Again though, those who regret and fight the tide, never accepting and yet live on to carry their grudge, they are burning inside. They are in hell. As their miserable world spirals out of control, who will save their fall?

Again, step back and think about the information you receive. Then, the easiest thing to ask yourself is what purpose does this serve? If you find yourself answering by saying either fear or control, then that is MANS influence. God gave you freewill.

Most people were cannibals if we go too far back. Again, Christ is to save our humanity and lead us away from the temptations of being a barbarian. It had more to do with civilizing man than anything else.

yes but you missed My point. If i'm just his creation that needs to bow down and shut-up with my questions what kind worth am i? Its not like i'd be attacking him or anything horrible..i just don't understand why this is an accepted form of "fatherly love".

Hell is one of the biggest falsehoods to come out of organized religion.

I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.