I'm DONE with Marriage...

sorry to hear that Op , myself i was married for 24 years , best time of my life , great woman , maybe it's time for you to move on , gave you some karma, hope it helps

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Yeah, it probably is time to move on.

I'm still young enough where I can start fresh, and really try to achieve the goals I've set for myself (if this world is still around in the next few years).

I guess I just haven't been able to admit that it's over; I'm in total denial.

I guess I'm a little old fashioned (thanks to my parents) when it comes to marriage. That it's supposed to last until "till death do us part..."

I hate that I'm just going to become another statistic in the annals of divorce cases.

NEVER... EVER... go by what a woman SAYS.

Always go by what they DO.

I learned that 30 years ago, as a teenager. And been consistently proved right, ever since.

The TV is GUARANTEED poison to any relationship. So are magazines like Cosmopolitan, romance novels, etc... Anything that INTENTIONALLY gives women unrealistic expectations, and induces a fantasy land coma.

There is a very good REASON that America women are the most selfish, greedy, hypocritical, deceitful, judgmental, unreasonable, irrational, illogical, and utterly INSANE creatures on the entire planet... BAR NONE.

I was hoping my brother was the OP.

LOL God damned succubus'

Sorry to hear that. But you sound like a sincere person. Get a divorce asap. Now the cheesy bit: You deserve better.

Love is a choice! Love covers a multitude of sin!

I don't know what your vows were to your wife, but I promised my wife that I would love her through richer or poorer, through sickness and health, through better or worse until death do us part.

Don't be a promise breaker, you can choose to let love cover her sin.

Marriage is choosing to love.

Don't give up OP just a season of your life, as long as you choose to love, this frustrating season will pass.

I pray for you.

I'm a 30 yo Male.

Thanks.

I'm writing that on a piece of a paper and will carry it in my wallet wherever I go.

Good advice.

It could be worse, you could be married to KateCan

Buddy I understand you totally.

Had the same type of woman in my life and we had a daughter together. We were together 6 years and soon as baby arrived she decided she didnt want me anymore and found herself a new BIG body building boyfriend.

It hurt, hurt real bad but instead of becoming bitter, I started to work out myself and I got in real nice shape , not like a body builder on steroids but very nice natural muscles. I decided to start going to my friends bars and clubs because I was so low on confidence after being thrown away by her that I needed to know if I still had it "Even if "I had lost it".

At one night club I picked one bar girl that seemed the "impossible one" 22 years old and im 32 The one every guy had been trying to get and was getting nowhere. Taller than me, very slim model type - total wow factor

Well after 3 months of mixing flirting with her and totally ignoring her all together - I got her and we got into a relationship. A few months later The relationship is going nowhere as she just wants to party all the time and I guess im kind of out of that scene now. So we split.

SO yes I understand your position on this, even now I have met someone else who is really cool the other day she freaked out over something small and talked to me in that condesending way and I just looked at her and smailed and said "thanks for that - you reminded me why I will never have a serious relationship again, I am just happy to be hang out "be cool buddies" ....lol she didnt like that.

P.S My Ex who had the baby with me and dumped me and found another guy, she came back begging me to be with her and have another child with her........ I told her I had zero attraction to her anymore. Let her know I was dating younger at the moment. :)

I'm sorry to hear this op. I hope everything works out for you, divorce or not.

Get rid of the TV.... accidentally pour cola down the back before you both leave for work.. by the time you get back the insides will be screwed and not work.

Then plan 'other' hobbies after work....

Mishka xx

The secret to success with women is you must be 60% dominant over them

I have time and time again tried to be equal in relationships and it doesnt work. As soon as you play the boss and act dominant over them they begin to respect you, its in them.

Soon as they smell weakness and bending over to them its finished ...bang bang nails in the coffin over.

Be the boss, in control and all is good

Thanks.

I just needed somewhere to rant, and I knew GLP would cheer me up a little bit.

It's not the end of the world.

It just hurts right now, and is kind of embarrassing, too.

The thought of being single again is actually kind of exciting.

12 years isn't exactly "going the distance."

Considering all those things you mentioned that never even happened, it doesn't really sound like the relationship is damaged beyond recognition, I mean really. It sounds like far worse could be the case.

There are always times in a relationship when we feel like we fall out of love. That's why love is more than is what is required to make a relationship last.

Unfortunately, in western society in particular, people have this unrealistic fantasy, movie-version idea about what marriage is supposed to look like, and all that lovey-dovey crap. But real love involves doing, and not just feeling...it involves sticking though the shit, even when we feel like we want to strangle a person. It's getting through the hard times, because ANYBODY can get through the easy times. It's being there even when we don't want to be. And your character will grow all the more just for doing it.

Imagine if a real tragedy happened to one of you, like an accident or a disfigurement, or if one of you got sick...would you abandon the relationship as a result? This is no different, in that you are both being confronted with a crisis in the relationship. And one, or both of you, are sick (emotionally, relationally, etc.) and it's affecting your relationship with each other.

There's obviously a huge communication problem in your relationship. You may want to consider couples counseling to at least hash some of these things out.

Does the reality show princess have any idea that you are thinking about being single again?

I am sorry for you. I wish you well.

Didn't the wedding vows mean anything to you? For richer or poorer? Some people get married and think, Oh my life is going to be perfect now. Marriage is full of ups and downs. You have to take the good with the bad and accept people for who they are. Blaming women is just immature.

Trust me, I took my vows very seriously.

I'm willing to try and make the marriage work still.

I can guarantee we don't have the most fucked up marriage out there. Not even close.

Which makes it all the more frustrating that she wants to end it.

Let me repeat, SHE is the one that wants to end it.

I don't.

But, if it comes to that, I will have to move on.

And it certainly seems like it's going to come to that.

Yep, there's definitely a huge communication problem right now. It wasn't always like that, but there is now.

I was always against marriage counseling, etc.

But now that I find myself in this situation, I'm more than willing to try it, and see if it works for us.

ask your uncle for advice

Good for you, OP! :)

There is nothing to lose, so it's at least worth a shot.

I think I'm in love with you young fellow!! I pray you have as smart of a wife or future wife as you seem to be.

American women have been TRAINED by incessant brainwashing through TV, music, magazines, THEIR FRIENDS, etc... to view men as DISPOSABLE, and easily REPLACEABLE. And due to the fact that most men nowadays are nothing more than a horny dick, it is true.

There are 100 wolves in line, to screw your wife just as soon as she is single again... Or.... even BEFORE she is single again. Some men actually GET OFF on that, evil as it may be.

And women have been brainwashed into craving a never-ending "infatuation phase", which is simply NOT possible. Do you know that rush tha you feel when you first fal in love with someone? I call it the infatuation phase, and women nowadays are CONSTANTLY looking to create that feeling, because they have been BRAINWASHED into feeling as if it's normal for tha to be the norm throughout the relationship.

And it IS normal, if your relationships only last 6 months.

Fact is, the infatuation phase normally lasts from around 3 to 6 months, and if you are lucky, a year. but beyond that, there is RARELY anyway to CREATE that initial excitement all over again. and yet women (being the unreasonable creatures that they are) EXPECT that.

You may be the most entertaining and interesting guy in the world, but given enough time, a woman will get bored with you, and start looking for someone else to create that spark all over again. And that is why women really view men as disposable, and eventually do not even EXPECT a relationship to last long.

A woman expects YOU to be funny, interesting, and entertaining, going into a relation, and to MAINTAIN that interest from them, even after they have grown used to you. And yet they offer NOTHING in return, because women realize that they can have the personality of a codfish, or be a total bitch, and still attract men, just because of looks, and the fact that foolish men are driven by hormones.

It used to be, when a woman became bored with you, she still loved you enough to stay in a relationship, and put effort into making it work. But now they just crave that infatuation phase feeling, and expect it to continue indefinitely, which simply is NOT realistic.

No wonder there are so many women who think all men are douche bags, even though these same men were a "one-in-a-million" (according to these same women) for the first year of their relationships.

From your description, it seems like she is more disappointed with how her life is going than disappointed with you. It sounds like you are the one who is disappointed with her. It also sounds like you are being very judgmental without the love. Have decided to stop loving her?

Great way to live.

Our Lord in the messages says...simplify. Tribulation
now and the Great Tribulation soon is going to be really
difficult for spoiled Americans.

Do not divorce your wife. Your reason isn't biblical.

God is going to warn everyone, throw out your electronics
before the appearance of the anti-Christ. You can't look
at his image.

The Great Tribulation is prophesied to begin at the end
of 2012.

You sound totally jaded, and if you are talking about immature women, perhaps this may be the case (or women of a certain age, i.e., girls).

Most real women, however, prefer mature love, which is far more intimate, real, and substantive. Not superficial infatuation.

I hope you open yourself up enough to actually meet some of these women one day!

I feel like she's blaming me for how her life has turned out.

I haven't stopped loving her.

Reality TV has a truly toxic effect on the female psyche.

I've met plenty of women, toots.

And after 50 years of living, I' would have to be an IDIOT to NOT be jaded by what these American women have become. That is why I've been married now, to a woman I met 5 years ago overseas.

I'm totally content, and can see myself with this person for the rest of my life. I was VER specific in the FIRST TWO WORD of my post, about what women I was referring to. And like i said, I would have to be an idiot, t NOT be jaded about America women.

What kind of LIAR would even TRY to claim that American women AREN'T the most spoiled, unrealistic, and selfish women in the world?


"I hope you open yourself up enough to actually meet some of these women one day!"

Hey, thanks for the sentiment, but it's too late. I already DID find the right women, but it sure as hell wasn't here in THIS country.