NASA officially admits LENR (cold fusion) is real and is working on the technology | |
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Bil User ID: 8713312 United States 01/12/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a good overview presentation from NASA Langley Research Center, you'll see why NASA and Navy SPAWAR / DOD are interested, not to mention we can eventually tell all of the middle east oil producing nations to fuck off, we can just use our own production for manufacturing, plastics, etc Quoting: Bil [link to www.scribd.com] . For the tl;dr-tards (I get it, I am one) the real-world applications/benefits pages start at pg 29 . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5769488 United States 01/12/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video from the NASA website gives a brief explanation of LENR (also known as "cold fusion") and its uses: Quoting: Channing [link to technologygateway.nasa.gov] This proves: - LENR (also known as "cold fusion") is real. - They are already trying to make it into a practical technology. - Rossi "E-Cat" is likely not a scam. - The end of Big Oil is coming. - We could have had this 20 years ago but the established interests prevented it. Ill believe it when THEY SELL FOR scrap.. Burj Khalifa known as Burj Dubai prior to its inauguration, is a skyscraper in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and is currently the tallest manmade structure in the world, at 829.84 m (2,723 ft) |
overmind User ID: 3022476 United States 01/12/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8726396 Wanderer of the Skies - January 12, 2012 Greetings from the Federation: What must come to pass is presently being discussed at the highest levels of your world governments, behind closed doors and through emissaries to the various other governments around the world. As time draws closer to the inevitable, your leaders are aware that they cannot stop the tide of disclosure sweeping over your planet. They know that they will either be swept away by this tide or they must decide to take the reins and make disclosure their own. Their ability to waffle on this topic amazes even us as we see them fight among themselves for a common ground. Once reached, someone inevitably backs off and the process starts all over again. We wait in the background for what must be done, if not done so by your own people. News will reach you shortly about a “new” scientific development in the field of what you have termed zero point energy systems. It will be touted as theoretical, but in reality it is a functioning model of a real energy device created a long time ago and only now being released. There will be interesting developments in your legal field over patent protections. The “news" of this breakthrough will be carefully monitored by those in power to determine what type of impact such a disclosure makes upon the people as a whole. The Queen of England has ceded control over a faction of the Illuminati to a group over which our allies have “consulting” privileges. This means, in the longer term, that this faction will be more amenable to the changes necessary to effect disclosure and the release of the cabal’s hold over the people. This was a negotiated “peace” that came about after many, many months of positioning on all sides. We are confident that this is another roadblock successfully removed towards the inevitable. You will have noticed a slight decrease in the sightings of late although those sighting that have made it to your news have been of a more spectacular nature. This is about to change. We are now in another stage of the disclosure process wherein the revealing of our craft to you will become more pronounced. A major meeting of all factions of the Federation has recently been held. This was a very big event, not only in numbers but also in importance. It was the final preparation meeting of all involved to go over every detail of the coming events, including the political, social, religious, emotional, mental, and physical ramifications of disclosure. This meeting was held aboard one of our great spacers, a living machine so large as to dwarf your understanding of construction. Although the physical space was not really necessary to this process as we have telepathically discussed much of these issues, from time to time, we convene physically to resolve issues better dealt with in that fashion. Among those represented were earth humans, who voiced their opinions about coming events and whose opinions were held in the highest regard. Although you have been beset with many setbacks over the years, we are excited by the prospects of the coming months and what this has in store for all of us. Bring yourselves to feel once again your excitement for the times in which you have chosen to live and the manner in which you have awoken to the truth. Your thoughts will create waves which will act as beacons for the truth and this truth will return to you powerfully. Be at peace. Channel: Wanderer of the Skies This thread is about cold fusion though, not zero-point energy. Last Edited by overmind on 01/12/2012 03:06 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8725074 United Kingdom 01/12/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video from the NASA website gives a brief explanation of LENR (also known as "cold fusion") and its uses: Quoting: Channing [link to technologygateway.nasa.gov] This proves: - LENR (also known as "cold fusion") is real. - They are already trying to make it into a practical technology. - Rossi "E-Cat" is likely not a scam. - The end of Big Oil is coming. - We could have had this 20 years ago but the established interests prevented it. Congratulations pal, you beat me to post it. I really think this should get a pin. Lets keep bumping it as this is HUGE an GREAT NEWS!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1419659 United States 01/12/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the real explanation for all this talk about "war" with Iran... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548221 The oil companies need to maximize profits this year, because it's their last year... So, they need to create talk about war, to make oil prices go as high as possible... :spock1: although they will still make a pretty penny from plastics and fertilizer. Best news I've heard in a long time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8729691 United States 01/12/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple of points LENR does work but is still in it's infancy. it is not cold fusion and calling it that is what clouded and held up the funding for further research and development. Rossi did not originate the process and still makes outlandish claims like having completed large reactors which no one has been able to verify as well as claiming gamma ray production which the LENR process lacks entirely. [link to www.ecatplanet.net] [link to www.ecatplanet.net] [link to www.ecatplanet.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8729691 United States 01/12/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We may see retrofits of coal/nuke plants first, depends on how it gets defined and regulated, plus you have the issue of potentially disrupting entire industry segments which would tank the economy. That has not been indicated as a likely scenario. The process is not scalable to that degree as far as all the research has indicated including Rossi's own. He is an interesting fellow who likes to exaggerate often and also claim to be far ahead of where he is. There is also the possibility that he is guarding what he already has but that seems unlikely. |
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Sammich User ID: 4005558 United States 01/12/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow just think of all the jobs lost in the oil/energy/exploration/mining fields due to this lack of need . . . Quoting: Goldbond 1458657 Jobless rate to 15%!!! YAY!!! Some jobs would be replaced due to the converting over to this new energy source. Everything that uses oil/gas/electricity would have to be retrofitted. Research and development into new ways of using this and engineering new products to better use this. I see it as a new economic boom, but then again I have always been a guy who sees the glass as half full. Now that's what I call a sammich! |
508527 User ID: 1432018 United States 01/12/2012 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow just think of all the jobs lost in the oil/energy/exploration/mining fields due to this lack of need . . . Quoting: Goldbond 1458657 Jobless rate to 15%!!! YAY!!! Some jobs would be replaced due to the converting over to this new energy source. Everything that uses oil/gas/electricity would have to be retrofitted. Research and development into new ways of using this and engineering new products to better use this. I see it as a new economic boom, but then again I have always been a guy who sees the glass as half full. but sammich, oil is so profitable because it is burned, then you have to go back and buy more, over and over. if something like this comes along you would have an initial expense then no residual cost. this would destroy our economy imo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8732625 United Kingdom 01/12/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if they have broken the laws of thermodynamics then prepare for a huge boom like the 20th century but on crack. Everything shit and corrupt and polluted now is just about to get a whole lot worse if this is true. Imagine human beings with unlimited energy , it is truly terrifying . |
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overmind User ID: 3022476 United States 01/12/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow just think of all the jobs lost in the oil/energy/exploration/mining fields due to this lack of need . . . Quoting: Goldbond 1458657 Jobless rate to 15%!!! YAY!!! Some jobs would be replaced due to the converting over to this new energy source. Everything that uses oil/gas/electricity would have to be retrofitted. Research and development into new ways of using this and engineering new products to better use this. I see it as a new economic boom, but then again I have always been a guy who sees the glass as half full. but sammich, oil is so profitable because it is burned, then you have to go back and buy more, over and over. if something like this comes along you would have an initial expense then no residual cost. this would destroy our economy imo. Jobs are a means, not an end in themselves. Free energy would greatly reduce living expenses across the globe, it's worth it. If someone cannot find or create a way to benefit their community, they can at least grow some food. |
Sammich User ID: 4005558 United States 01/12/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow just think of all the jobs lost in the oil/energy/exploration/mining fields due to this lack of need . . . Quoting: Goldbond 1458657 Jobless rate to 15%!!! YAY!!! Some jobs would be replaced due to the converting over to this new energy source. Everything that uses oil/gas/electricity would have to be retrofitted. Research and development into new ways of using this and engineering new products to better use this. I see it as a new economic boom, but then again I have always been a guy who sees the glass as half full. but sammich, oil is so profitable because it is burned, then you have to go back and buy more, over and over. if something like this comes along you would have an initial expense then no residual cost. this would destroy our economy imo. Jobs are a means, not an end in themselves. Free energy would greatly reduce living expenses across the globe, it's worth it. If someone cannot find or create a way to benefit their community, they can at least grow some food. ^^THIS^^ Without having to rely on oil for our energy source we could all become more self-sufficient. Now that's what I call a sammich! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 108458 United States 01/12/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow just think of all the jobs lost in the oil/energy/exploration/mining fields due to this lack of need . . . Quoting: Goldbond 1458657 Jobless rate to 15%!!! YAY!!! Maybe for a short while perhaps but with cheap energy I'd bet on the economy and living conditions of the world to improve greatly. Additionally; while I am fully aware that the people in charge are in love with war and destruction and the profits it brings them and are not going to give up their psychotic behavior anytime soon but at least it won't be a war over energy supplies. Then again, knowing what kind of people are in charge it is just as likely they will burn the world rather than give up power. |
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just a dude User ID: 1080654 United States 01/12/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sammich Some jobs would be replaced due to the converting over to this new energy source. Everything that uses oil/gas/electricity would have to be retrofitted. Research and development into new ways of using this and engineering new products to better use this. I see it as a new economic boom, but then again I have always been a guy who sees the glass as half full. but sammich, oil is so profitable because it is burned, then you have to go back and buy more, over and over. if something like this comes along you would have an initial expense then no residual cost. this would destroy our economy imo. Jobs are a means, not an end in themselves. Free energy would greatly reduce living expenses across the globe, it's worth it. If someone cannot find or create a way to benefit their community, they can at least grow some food. ^^THIS^^ Without having to rely on oil for our energy source we could all become more self-sufficient. Max COP: 6 [link to faq.ecat.com] You still need a power input. If it's run off a thermal power plant, let's say with a plant and transmission efficiency of 30%, then for input power delivery: eff = Wnet / Qin ==> eff.Qin = Wnet e-cat COP = Qh / Win combining the two: eff.COP = Qh / Qin (overall plant + e-cat COP) = 0.3(6) = 1.8 80% advantage |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8729691 United States 01/12/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.grc.nasa.gov] This is where it is approximately at this time. Perhaps Rossi has something larger already tested but there has been no independent verification despite his many claims. |
Shogu666 User ID: 1217094 Poland 01/12/2012 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but sammich, oil is so profitable because it is burned, then you have to go back and buy more, over and over. if something like this comes along you would have an initial expense then no residual cost. this would destroy our economy imo. Quoting: 508527 That is exactly what i am waiting for. Current economic paradigm is just retarded. |
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