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United States 01/12/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Proper Way to Confront the TSA [U.S. only] How to confront the TSA [ link to www.lawinsimpleterms.com] What follows is an excerpt from the above URL. When confronted by government's questioning the paramount inquiry is "What is the nature of their inquiry?" Not, do I have a legal duty to answer your question, as phrased by Mr. Bierfeldt. When the TSA asked Mr. Bierfeldt where the cash he possessed originated, his response should have been and should always be, "Sir, what is the nature of your inquiry? When the TSA agent asks for clarification in response Mr. Bierfeldt's query, his response should have been, "Sir are you conducting a civil investigation or a criminal investigation?" There can only be those two legal purposes to any government agent's investigation. If the investigation is neither criminal nor civil and they are just a friendly father watching out for their children, then you obviously have a distinct choice as to leave abrubtly without interruption. However, they will eventually admit that the investigation is either civil or criminal. If Government's response to your question is that it's a civil investigation then you must only remain in their presence of your own free will and may leave at anytime you wish. Government has no legal authority to hold or detain you under a civil investigation without a lawful court order from a court of competent jurisdiction. If Government's response is that it is a criminal investigation, you state in response: "Very well, please articulate your suspicion of my criminal activity." Government must articulate a well founded suspicion of your criminal activity in order to have probable cause to continue to detain (arrest) you. (If you can't leave, then you're under arrest and that arrest/detention is subject to the constraints of the fourth amendment to the United States Constitution) In Mr. Bierfeldt's case, the investigation was neither civil nor criminal. The TSA was simply conducting a wild goose hunt, nothing more, nothing less. So, to capsulize, your response to government's inquiry in most every situation might be like the following: What is the nature of your inquiry? Is it civil or is it criminal? If it's civil you can't hold me without a lawful court order from a court of competent jurisdiction and I can now leave. If it's criminal you must articulate your suspicion of my criminal activity. Inotherwords, tell me what law makes it unlawful for me to carry $4,700.00 in cash on an airplane. Make them tell you exactly what law you are suspected of offending. You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45746949
United States 11/02/2013 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Proper Way to Confront the TSA [U.S. only] Clever legal-speak, but in practice, this will get you tazed, pepper sprayed, shot, beaten, and hauled off to a gulag under multiple made-up charges.
Good luck. |
Him Again User ID: 47990459
United States 11/02/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Proper Way to Confront the TSA [U.S. only] Clever legal-speak, but in practice, this will get you tazed, pepper sprayed, shot, beaten, and hauled off to a gulag under multiple made-up charges.
Good luck.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45746949 Oh sure. Just be respectful and polite. Instead of what this anonymous coward says, do exactly what OP suggests. This is the only way to put them off their game of intimidation. What AC says just buckles under to their big mouths and lack of actual authority. The TSA doesn't have any powers which is why they have actual police standing by, and those police are the ones arresting people - not the TSA. |