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Antarctica and its Volcanism and Vostok

 
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Even if all the ice on Antarctica melted it would raise the ocean level 200 feet hardly a global flood. One volcano or even a chain of them would only melt a fraction of the ice.
I think theres more to worry about the methane leaking from under the arctic. But they rather blame mans coal plants, lol.
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OP WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THERE NEVER WAS A GREAT FLOOD.MEANING WORLD WIDE IT IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND GEOLOGY,AS WELL AS CORRECT THINKING.THE BOOKS OF THE BI BAAL WERE ALL WRITTEN AT A TIME THE WORLD WAS INCORRECTLY BELIEVED TO BE FLAT LET US NOT FORGET.
IN ADDITION PONDER THIS ,COMMON SENSE IS NEITHER COMMON NOR IS IT ABOUT SENSE,IT IS HOWEVER CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON.THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO USE CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON. the white rose
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OP WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THERE NEVER WAS A GREAT FLOOD.MEANING WORLD WIDE IT IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND GEOLOGY,AS WELL AS CORRECT THINKING.THE BOOKS OF THE BI BAAL WERE ALL WRITTEN AT A TIME THE WORLD WAS INCORRECTLY BELIEVED TO BE FLAT LET US NOT FORGET.
IN ADDITION PONDER THIS ,COMMON SENSE IS NEITHER COMMON NOR IS IT ABOUT SENSE,IT IS HOWEVER CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON.THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO USE CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON. the white rose
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Don't be a dumbass.
The bible said the world was a sphere. The "intellectuals" of the day claime otherwise.
"Correct thinking" eh? You a guv shill or just an idiot sheep?
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Even if all the ice on Antarctica melted it would raise the ocean level 200 feet hardly a global flood. One volcano or even a chain of them would only melt a fraction of the ice.
I think theres more to worry about the methane leaking from under the arctic. But they rather blame mans coal plants, lol.
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Dude! Go outside and find a building that is 200 ft high and then check out the elevations of major cities all over the worlds. Will Miami, Houston, NYC, etc survive?

Lol! Hardly a global flood! bash
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OP WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THERE NEVER WAS A GREAT FLOOD.MEANING WORLD WIDE IT IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND GEOLOGY,AS WELL AS CORRECT THINKING.THE BOOKS OF THE BI BAAL WERE ALL WRITTEN AT A TIME THE WORLD WAS INCORRECTLY BELIEVED TO BE FLAT LET US NOT FORGET.
IN ADDITION PONDER THIS ,COMMON SENSE IS NEITHER COMMON NOR IS IT ABOUT SENSE,IT IS HOWEVER CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON.THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO USE CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON. the white rose
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Don't be a dumbass.
The bible said the world was a sphere. The "intellectuals" of the day claime otherwise.
"Correct thinking" eh? You a guv shill or just an idiot sheep?
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SO THEN YOU BELIEVE THERE WAS A WORLD WIDE FLOOD.
ALSO WHY THE HOSTILITY .the white rose
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OP WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THERE NEVER WAS A GREAT FLOOD.MEANING WORLD WIDE IT IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND GEOLOGY,AS WELL AS CORRECT THINKING.THE BOOKS OF THE BI BAAL WERE ALL WRITTEN AT A TIME THE WORLD WAS INCORRECTLY BELIEVED TO BE FLAT LET US NOT FORGET.
IN ADDITION PONDER THIS ,COMMON SENSE IS NEITHER COMMON NOR IS IT ABOUT SENSE,IT IS HOWEVER CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON.THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO USE CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON. the white rose
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Don't be a dumbass.
The bible said the world was a sphere. The "intellectuals" of the day claime otherwise.
"Correct thinking" eh? You a guv shill or just an idiot sheep?
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SO THEN YOU BELIEVE THERE WAS A WORLD WIDE FLOOD.
ALSO WHY THE HOSTILITY .the white rose
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There is evidence of it. Why not accept the possibility? The hostility might come from you yelling at us.
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OP WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THERE NEVER WAS A GREAT FLOOD.MEANING WORLD WIDE IT IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND GEOLOGY,AS WELL AS CORRECT THINKING.THE BOOKS OF THE BI BAAL WERE ALL WRITTEN AT A TIME THE WORLD WAS INCORRECTLY BELIEVED TO BE FLAT LET US NOT FORGET.
IN ADDITION PONDER THIS ,COMMON SENSE IS NEITHER COMMON NOR IS IT ABOUT SENSE,IT IS HOWEVER CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON.THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO USE CORRECT THINKING AND ACTING UPON. the white rose
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Don't be a dumbass.
The bible said the world was a sphere. The "intellectuals" of the day claime otherwise.
"Correct thinking" eh? You a guv shill or just an idiot sheep?
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What'd I say... fighter1 back off agent

Tread lightly in antarctica, there always seems to be someone out to sqaush discussion on this.

This topic is obviously important.

Just to add on to the other video with blood falls, this gives a little more depth.



verry interesting we could be seeing the origin of life...

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hmm
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[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
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This is the Antarctic Treaty.

I think the fact that tourism is now restricted due to the fragile environmental conditions prevailing in Antarctica says it all. Everyone wants a piece of the Ice Queen.

[link to www.state.gov]
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Even if all the ice on Antarctica melted it would raise the ocean level 200 feet hardly a global flood. One volcano or even a chain of them would only melt a fraction of the ice.
I think theres more to worry about the methane leaking from under the arctic. But they rather blame mans coal plants, lol.
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Dude! Go outside and find a building that is 200 ft high and then check out the elevations of major cities all over the worlds. Will Miami, Houston, NYC, etc survive?

Lol! Hardly a global flood! bash
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Yes, global as in global, you know covering all the worlds land mass. Typical right and left coasters, think the entire world lies within 10 miles of the ocean. Thankyou for flying over.
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Even if all the ice on Antarctica melted it would raise the ocean level 200 feet hardly a global flood. One volcano or even a chain of them would only melt a fraction of the ice.
I think theres more to worry about the methane leaking from under the arctic. But they rather blame mans coal plants, lol.
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Dude! Go outside and find a building that is 200 ft high and then check out the elevations of major cities all over the worlds. Will Miami, Houston, NYC, etc survive?

Lol! Hardly a global flood! bash
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Yes, global as in global, you know covering all the worlds land mass. Typical right and left coasters, think the entire world lies within 10 miles of the ocean. Thankyou for flying over.
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lol

Oh, so you thought a global flood means all the land masses of the world being underwater at the same time?

chuckle
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Thread: First Evidence Of Under-ice Volcanic Eruption In Antarctica
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ScienceDaily (Jan. 20, 2008) — The first evidence of a volcanic eruption from beneath Antarctica's most rapidly changing ice sheet has been reported. The volcano on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet erupted 2000 years ago (325BC) and remains active.

The subglacial volcano has a 'volcanic explosion index' of around 3-4. Heat from the volcano creates melt-water that lubricates the base of the ice sheet and increases the flow towards the sea. Pine Island Glacier on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is showing rapid change and BAS scientists are part of an international research effort to understand this change.

Using airborne ice-sounding radar, scientists from British Antarctic Survey (BAS) discovered a layer of ash produced by a 'subglacial' volcano. It extends across an area larger than Wales.

Lead author* Hugh Corr of the BAS says, "The discovery of a 'subglacial' volcanic eruption from beneath the Antarctic ice sheet is unique in itself. But our techniques also allow us to put a date on the eruption, determine how powerful it was and map out the area where ash fell. We believe this was the biggest eruption in Antarctica during the last 10,000 years. It blew a substantial hole in the ice sheet, and generated a plume of ash and gas that rose around 12 km into air."

The discovery is another vital piece of evidence that will help determine the future of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and refine predictions of future sea-level rise. Glaciers are like massive rivers of ice that flow towards the coast and discharge icebergs into the sea.

Co-author Professor David Vaughan (BAS) says,"This eruption occurred close to Pine Island Glacier on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. The flow of this glacier towards the coast has speeded up in recent decades and it may be possible that heat from the volcano has caused some of that acceleration. However, it cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2mm per year to sea-level rise. This wider change most probably has its origin in warming ocean waters."

About the volcano

The volcano is located beneath the West Antarctic ice sheet in the Hudson Mountains at latitude 74.6°South, longitude 97°West. Volcanoes are an important component of the Antarctic region. They formed in diverse tectonic settings, mainly as a result of mantle plumes acting on the stationary Antarctic plate. The region also includes amongst the world's best examples of a long-lived continental margin arc (Antarctic Peninsula), a very young marginal basin (Bransfield Strait) and an oceanic island arc (South Sandwich Islands). Many extinct volcanoes are very well preserved and others are still active (e.g. Deception Island, Mount Erebus, and the South Sandwich Islands).

Volcanic eruptions were common during the past 25 million years, and coincided with the great period of climatic deterioration that resulted in the formation of the Antarctic ice sheet. Many of the volcanoes show the effects of interaction with ice. BAS has played a major role in describing these effects and modelling their influences on the resulting volcanic sequences. It is important to describe and understand these interactions in geologically recent times in order to predict future configurations of the ice sheet and its role in the global system.

*The paper 'A recent volcanic eruption beneath the West Antarctic ice sheet' by Hugh F Corr and David G Vaughan is published in the February edition of Nature Geosciences (online).
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Giant Undersea Volcanoes Found Off Antarctica
Mount Fuji-size peaks unexpected, scientists say.

Richard A. Lovett
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Published July 15, 2011

A chain of giant, undersea volcanoes has been found off Antarctica, scientists say.

All told a dozen previously unknown peaks were discovered beneath the waves—some up to 10,000 feet (3,000 meters) tall, according to the British Antarctic Survey.

The volcanoes were found near the U.K. territories of the South Georgia Islands and South Sandwich Islands (see map) during a month long mapping expedition, which used multibeam sonar to fill in a 370-mile (600-kilometer) by 90-mile (150-kilometer) gap in existing seabed maps.

"It was amazing finding them," said Phil Leat, a geologist volcanologist with the survey. "There were so many of these volcanoes we had no idea about."

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This video and the next parts gives a different explanation for global warming and it talks directly about volcanism. I know it is out there, but it fascinated me because, in a way, it made so much sense.
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Even if all the ice on Antarctica melted it would raise the ocean level 200 feet hardly a global flood. One volcano or even a chain of them would only melt a fraction of the ice.
I think theres more to worry about the methane leaking from under the arctic. But they rather blame mans coal plants, lol.
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Dude! Go outside and find a building that is 200 ft high and then check out the elevations of major cities all over the worlds. Will Miami, Houston, NYC, etc survive?

Lol! Hardly a global flood! bash
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Yes, global as in global, you know covering all the worlds land mass. Typical right and left coasters, think the entire world lies within 10 miles of the ocean. Thankyou for flying over.
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Fair enough. We have two different views on what global flooding meant. Impossible to flood mountains, etc but that's really not what global flooding means. It simply affect world wide from a single devastating event. Majority of population live on coastal or low lying areas, not mountains...
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Preliminary Report: Record Temperatures at South Pole (and nearby AWS sites…)
[link to amrc.ssec.wisc.edu]



South Pole’s Record Breaking Week…(Corrected!)

Posted on December 31, 2011 by mattl

Here’s more on South Pole Stations record breaking week of weather (Courtesy of South Pole Meteorology Office):

December 24th: The peak wind speed of 29 kts/33 mph broke the previous record of 28 kts/32 mph set in 1996.
December 24th: The temperature of -13.3°C/8.1°F broke the previous maximum temperature record of -15.7°C/3.7°F set in 1984.
December 25th: The temperature of -12.3°C/9.9°F broke the previous maximum temperature record of -17.2°C/1.0°F set in 1978.
December 25th: The temperature of -12.3°C/9.9°F broke the record for the all-time maximum temperature at South Pole. The previous record of -13.6°C/7.5°F was set on December 27, 1978.
December 30th: The peak wind speed of 25 kts/29 mph broke the previous record of 21 kts/24 mph set in 1989.

[link to amrc.ssec.wisc.edu]


Its warming up and getting windier.


And breaking all previous records.
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Oh Good God. "All-Time Record High Temperature" previously set in the late seventies, early eighties? No previous records before the last paltry, measly 30 or 40 years? Give me a break.

This tunnel vision about lengths of time and our myopic, pathetically limited perception of events in comparison to vast spans of historical and geological time, drives me nuts.
"Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. " (1 Thessalonians 5.18)

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Philippians 4:6-7
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Preliminary Report: Record Temperatures at South Pole (and nearby AWS sites…)
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South Pole’s Record Breaking Week…(Corrected!)

Posted on December 31, 2011 by mattl

Here’s more on South Pole Stations record breaking week of weather (Courtesy of South Pole Meteorology Office):

December 24th: The peak wind speed of 29 kts/33 mph broke the previous record of 28 kts/32 mph set in 1996.
December 24th: The temperature of -13.3°C/8.1°F broke the previous maximum temperature record of -15.7°C/3.7°F set in 1984.
December 25th: The temperature of -12.3°C/9.9°F broke the previous maximum temperature record of -17.2°C/1.0°F set in 1978.
December 25th: The temperature of -12.3°C/9.9°F broke the record for the all-time maximum temperature at South Pole. The previous record of -13.6°C/7.5°F was set on December 27, 1978.
December 30th: The peak wind speed of 25 kts/29 mph broke the previous record of 21 kts/24 mph set in 1989.

[link to amrc.ssec.wisc.edu]


Its warming up and getting windier.


And breaking all previous records.
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Oh Good God. "All-Time Record High Temperature" previously set in the late seventies, early eighties? No previous records before the last paltry, measly 30 or 40 years? Give me a break.

This tunnel vision about lengths of time and our myopic, pathetically limited perception of events in comparison to vast spans of historical and geological time, drives me nuts.
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They are tracking patterns. There is much more to this if you bothered to go to the research sites and look through all the information. For example, look at some of the science papers on Tephra and Antarctica.

It is YOUR fault you only want to look at this data I put up, and not look at all the other data out there, and claim it drives you nuts. Maybe it drives you nuts because you allow yourself to be spoonfed, instead of educating yourself. IMHO
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want to take a vacation?

[link to www.polarstarexpeditions.com]

can be dangerous

[link to en.mercopress.com]

there were reports that the "ground it hit" was not supposed to be there

and some more info on the sea floor mapping

[link to www.whoi.edu]

I wonder it its in a dynamic flux of landscape/sea bed changing, and how repapidly.

dr
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and a good source of articles

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

lots of stepping off points for more research

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and a good source of articles

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

lots of stepping off points for more research

dr
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EXCELLENT, I love Bibliotecapleyades
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want to take a vacation?

[link to www.polarstarexpeditions.com]

can be dangerous

[link to en.mercopress.com]

there were reports that the "ground it hit" was not supposed to be there

and some more info on the sea floor mapping

[link to www.whoi.edu]

I wonder it its in a dynamic flux of landscape/sea bed changing, and how repapidly.

dr
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I wish I was rich...
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and a good source of articles

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

lots of stepping off points for more research

dr
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EXCELLENT, I love Bibliotecapleyades
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Damn. They really cover EVERYTHING!
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and a good source of articles

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

lots of stepping off points for more research

dr
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EXCELLENT, I love Bibliotecapleyades
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Damn. They really cover EVERYTHING!
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ohyeah

That's why I love that site.
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and a good source of articles

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

lots of stepping off points for more research

dr
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EXCELLENT, I love Bibliotecapleyades
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Damn. They really cover EVERYTHING!
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ohyeah

That's why I love that site.
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it is my personal quest to try to eventually read everything there

been working on it a couple years now

my current reads are the south american tunnels
I wonder if one of the tunnels goes to the south pole?
if they (whoever made the tunnels) could have crisscrossed s. america, as seems to be documented, antarctica is not that far fetched....

so much we don't know

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Now that's what I call a sammich!
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The craters of Mount Erebus were first visited in March 1908 by members of Shackleton's expedition, who initially noted the "vast abyss" filled with great masses of steam that rose in a column 150 to 300 meters high.

During a brief clearing, they observed the crater and noted the steam explosions issuing from three well-defined openings at the bottom of the high cauldron. As recorded in the book by Shackleton (1909) the party also observed around the summit area "lumps of lava, large feldspar crystals, from one to three inches in length, and fragments of pumice; both feldspar' and pumice were in many cases coated with sulfur."

[link to www.antarcticconnection.com]
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SS you could be on to something





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