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Paul Surges Santorum Plunges in SC

 
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Consider the source Paultards American research group LOL!!!
You little cheating bitches.
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1. Paul supports same-sex marriage
2. Paul opposes the death penalty for violent criminals
3. Paul opposes mandatory sentencing for three-time losers
4. Paul supports legalizing illicit drugs
5. Paul opposes firm enforcement of immigration laws
6. Paul opposes free trade
7. Paul opposes a strong U.S. Military and National Defense
8. Paul opposes foreign diplomacy and prefers isolationism
9. Paul opposes stricter limits on criminal campaign finance
10. Paul opposes the Patriot Act, but also insists on letting terrorist live amongst us
11. Paul supported the arbitrary withdrawal from Iraq that resulted in deadly terror attacks hours later.
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Ron Paul Is More Conservative Than Rick Santorum

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By Joe Deaux 01/11/12 - 04:02 PM EST
NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- During a Republican presidential debate Saturday, Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum had a spat about who was more conservative as each clawed for blocks of Republican voters needed to topple front-runner Mitt Romney.

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According to a study done back in 2004 though, Paul was the more conservative of the two by a fairly healthy margin.
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Yeah, Ron Paul is the extreme rightwinger in the race.
Congratulations, paultards.
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He is really from the old guard, not neo (new) con, but for limited governement, states rights and individual liberty.

...with liberty and justice for all!
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You can say that again - Ayn Rand and the John Birch Society.
Looking forward to getting fucked up the ass economically by your extreme right-wing Texass messiah?
I'm not.
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15 trillion in debt, 200 trillion in unfunded mandates, debt ceiling raised every few months, inflation, printing trillions of dollars, unemployment, 40 million people on food stamps.

This seems pretty extreme to me. Almost like something extreme should be done.
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1. Paul supports same-sex marriage
2. Paul opposes the death penalty for violent criminals
3. Paul opposes mandatory sentencing for three-time losers
4. Paul supports legalizing illicit drugs
5. Paul opposes firm enforcement of immigration laws
6. Paul opposes free trade
7. Paul opposes a strong U.S. Military and National Defense
8. Paul opposes foreign diplomacy and prefers isolationism
9. Paul opposes stricter limits on criminal campaign finance
10. Paul opposes the Patriot Act, but also insists on letting terrorist live amongst us
11. Paul supported the arbitrary withdrawal from Iraq that resulted in deadly terror attacks hours later.
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1. Paul supports same-sex marriage
Wrong
Paul believes it is a states rights issue. He believes in the traditional definition of marriage, a man and a woman.

2. Paul opposes the death penalty for violent criminals
Correct, but again, he believes that it is left up to the states to decide for themselves

3. Paul opposes mandatory sentencing (3 strikes)
Correct
The policy has been proven a dismal failure, taking the power away from the judges who then cannot rule based on the circumstances but are forced into a one size fits all. This policy is from the same sick and flawed notion of zero tolerance.

4. Paul supports legalizing illicit drugs
Correct
Illicit drugs are already legally marketed by pharmaceutical companies and creates a two tiered system of those who can take part in the 'legal use' versus those who use street drugs. Also, many people who end up abusing drugs start by taking prescription painkillers then when they are cutoff, (because of practitioners fears of the law, overdependence, lack of money) they turn to illegal street drugs.

The drug war is a total failure and we imprison huge numbers of people and create a permanent underclass.

5. Paul opposes firm enforcement of immigration laws
Wrong
Paul believes in enforcing the laws (should they be constitutional) and changing the law to make it constitutional.

He supports legal immigration, but opposes fences as they can be used to keep people out and keep people in. (Think of Soviet east Berlin for a contemporary example)

6. Paul opposes free trade
Wrong
Paul believes in free trade both domestically, and internationally. He believes in strong trade alliances and friendship abroad. The Chinese trade policies are good example. Spread goodwill and sign beneficial trade agreements. The US has been spreading violence, strife and warfare.

7. Paul opposes a strong U.S. Military and National Defense
Wrong
Paul believes the troops should come home so that they can be used to defend our interests here. How can we protect the borders and the ports when our troops are overseas? Military adventurism would end as the central role of our military.

8. Paul opposes foreign diplomacy and prefers isolationism
Wrong
You have it backwards, Paul supports diplomacy in all forms and abhors isolationism. He believes in non-interventionism [link to en.wikipedia.org]

9. Paul opposes stricter limits on criminal campaign finance
Wrong Your characterizing of campaign financing as criminal shows how you are obviously misinformed on the issues. The supreme court ruled in favor of what we have today. The legislative branch would have to pass laws, then have them stand up to a judicial challenge. That notwithstanding, Paul believes in individual liberties, which includes the right to put there money behind a cause

10. Paul opposes the Patriot Act, but also insists on letting terrorist live amongst us
Correct on the first point, Wrong on the second. The Patriot Act is a complete violation of the constitution. Just because Congress passed it doesn't make it unconstitutional. Paul voted against it originally, and still opposes it as does a large portion of the US electorate. Have you read what is in that act?

The second point you make regarding terrorist I am going to assume has to do with Al-Awlaki, the American who was targeted by the US govt and assisnated without due process. Due process is what separates us from our 'enemies' It is integral part of Common and Civil Law that we have a right to redress and a right to have charges brought to bear in a court of competent jurisdiction.

11. Paul supported the arbitrary withdrawal from Iraq that resulted in deadly terror attacks hours later.
Correct on the first point Wrong on the second.
Paul, like the vast majority of Americans, wanted our troops out of Iraq.

Deadly terrorist attacks are a result of Sunni Shia divisions that our presence cannot solve. The attacks occurred during our occupation and thousands upon thousands were killed or injured. Our troops were basically sitting in the middle of a civil war without a mission.

Any other takers?

He that lives upon hope will die fasting, -Benjamin Franklin
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I am guessing there are no other takers.
He that lives upon hope will die fasting, -Benjamin Franklin
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Free Republic picked it up
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Now the examiner too.
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Yeah, Ron Paul is the extreme rightwinger in the race.
Congratulations, paultards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8751002


He is really from the old guard, not neo (new) con, but for limited governement, states rights and individual liberty.

...with liberty and justice for all!
 Quoting: Weatherman


You can say that again - Ayn Rand and the John Birch Society.
Looking forward to getting fucked up the ass economically by your extreme right-wing Texass messiah?
I'm not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8751002



15 trillion in debt, 200 trillion in unfunded mandates, debt ceiling raised every few months, inflation, printing trillions of dollars, unemployment, 40 million people on food stamps.

This seems pretty extreme to me. Almost like something extreme should be done.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Not if it involves electing another goddamn republikan.
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SC is an open primary. He may do very well!
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"You can say that again - Ayn Rand and the John Birch Society."

I'm not finding any evidence that Paul named his son after Ayn Rand. His birth name is Randal and he went by Randy for many years until his wife urged him to use Rand (can't say I blame her).
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