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BRIEF

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I am astonished at the number of uncaring responses to this woman's predicament.....All I can say is "You should hope that you don't find yourself in her unwelcome position. No one will care."
 Quoting: midisandy


My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
 Quoting: BRIEF
So it makes you feel better to make assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Has nothing to do with feeling better. Are one of those dope smokers?
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Woman jailed for 10 days because she's too poor to pay fine

TAGS: Crisis, USA, Economy

The recession ruined Linda Ruggles’ business and she has been selling plasma twice a week since to make ends meet. The blood bank couldn’t bail her out from behind bars though, which is where she ended up after she couldn’t pay a $480 fine.

That fine, say cops in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, came about because Linda Ruggles had a messy yard.

Barely getting by in recent years, Ruggles, 53, has been stockpiling scraps to pawn off in order to make her bill payments. In her yard rests a pile of metal that she routinely cashes in to get by. Elsewhere outside her house is a shack of shingles. Paying to have her roof fixed, often a job that comes at a cost of several thousand dollars, has been out of the question.

So when cops ticketed her $480 for having a messy yard, Ruggles wasn’t exactly prepared to pay it.


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If she wants to run a junkyard she needs to find a place zoned for it...sounds like she bought too much house and can't afford to live there...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Inflammatory troll is inflammatory...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8626202


I'm serious as all fuck...if my neighbor started collecting junk in his yard, I'd be pissed...
 Quoting: BRIEF
Pissed sure. Fine. But fining her - it seems without giveing her a chance to clean it up - jailing her, which means taxpayers pay a much larger sum, cutting down on her potential earning time (while she is in jail), doesn't help much.
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Re: Woman put in jail for being poor
I am astonished at the number of uncaring responses to this woman's predicament.....All I can say is "You should hope that you don't find yourself in her unwelcome position. No one will care."
 Quoting: midisandy


My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I can see your point Brief, but we don't KNOW that. Nor do we know the circumstances of her life. Nor do YOU know that a similar fate could not befall you.

However, personally, I am done paying fines for anything. If I do something "wrong" they can send me to jail, where I will not pay a damn dime to a corrupt system. No lawyers, no fines, no court costs.

And, people, please realize that the public is now paying to house and feed this woman for 10 days and paying her fine for her. A fine for a ridiculous "crime". A messy yard is not the end of the world, and it harms none. Its not as though it were piles of food scrap and causing a pest nuisance.
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It is sad, but it does hurt others, when their property goes down because of her messy yard.
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I am astonished at the number of uncaring responses to this woman's predicament.....All I can say is "You should hope that you don't find yourself in her unwelcome position. No one will care."
 Quoting: midisandy


My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
 Quoting: BRIEF
So it makes you feel better to make assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Has nothing to do with feeling better. Are one of those dope smokers?
 Quoting: BRIEF
Why, are dope smokers good at noticing when someone made assumptions? I don't know any so I didn't realize this.
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I had a county guy hassle me one time ! I got a pony and around here you have to get a pleasure pony permit now even though ponies have always been kept in this area ! The county guy said what are you going to do with that pony ! Knowing if I told him the grand kids would ride him He would want me to buy the pleasure pony permit ! Instead I told him I planned to eat the pony ! Looking at me in a disgusted manner he walked to his car ! Along the drive I had two grills and a smoker ! He looked at those and said what do you need so many cookers for ? I told him , have you ever cooked a pony ! He left , that was 3 years ago haven't seen him back but I did sell the pony ! Got tired of buying hay !! This is a true story !!
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I am astonished at the number of uncaring responses to this woman's predicament.....All I can say is "You should hope that you don't find yourself in her unwelcome position. No one will care."
 Quoting: midisandy


My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
 Quoting: BRIEF
So it makes you feel better to make assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Has nothing to do with feeling better. Are one of those dope smokers?
 Quoting: BRIEF


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Why is this surprising? When a country is full of fucking NAZIs, then this is the norm.
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They ought to jail all of my fucking neighbors then because everyone single one of them except for me and tow others have junk cars and shit piled all over their yards front and back. We're talking scrap metal, old cars and trucks that don't run. wood piles, Wood barrels, lawn mowers, shingles, concrete blocks, etc... and no, they don't clean it up,either. they're some of the worst and messiest people you have ever seen.
Damn rednecks!
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^^^^^ precisely why I live in an HOA ^^^^^
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I am astonished at the number of uncaring responses to this woman's predicament.....All I can say is "You should hope that you don't find yourself in her unwelcome position. No one will care."
 Quoting: midisandy


My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I can see your point Brief, but we don't KNOW that. Nor do we know the circumstances of her life. Nor do YOU know that a similar fate could not befall you.

However, personally, I am done paying fines for anything. If I do something "wrong" they can send me to jail, where I will not pay a damn dime to a corrupt system. No lawyers, no fines, no court costs.

And, people, please realize that the public is now paying to house and feed this woman for 10 days and paying her fine for her. A fine for a ridiculous "crime". A messy yard is not the end of the world, and it harms none. Its not as though it were piles of food scrap and causing a pest nuisance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6289134

It is sad, but it does hurt others, when their property goes down because of her messy yard.
 Quoting: Desert Fox
And here's what communities do. They approach the person, confront them with the issue, try to work out some kind of win, win situation. Put more pressure on, find other solutions.

They don't peer out their windows and call the police and make things worse.
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If she wants to run a junkyard she needs to find a place zoned for it...sounds like she bought too much house and can't afford to live there...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Inflammatory troll is inflammatory...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8626202


I'm serious as all fuck...if my neighbor started collecting junk in his yard, I'd be pissed...
 Quoting: BRIEF
Pissed sure. Fine. But fining her - it seems without giveing her a chance to clean it up - jailing her, which means taxpayers pay a much larger sum, cutting down on her potential earning time (while she is in jail), doesn't help much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


You don't think she was warned and given a chance to clean up? LOL
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So let me get this right. John Corzine can steal 1.2 billion dollars, and laugh about it. George bush can take us to war in Iraq on false pretenses? The T.S.A. can molest little children in public? Cops beat people half to death for no reason on camera, then charge the victim with assault? For all those criminal acts there is a free pass! BUT,!!!! This lady goes to jail for a messy yard? Are you Fucking shitting me???
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My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
 Quoting: BRIEF
So it makes you feel better to make assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Has nothing to do with feeling better. Are one of those dope smokers?
 Quoting: BRIEF


the word around here is you enjoy anal scissoring with Scrump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8847695


from the same crowd that smokes themselves into orbit everyday? LOL, I'm not surprised...
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I am astonished at the number of uncaring responses to this woman's predicament.....All I can say is "You should hope that you don't find yourself in her unwelcome position. No one will care."
 Quoting: midisandy



She Will become homeless. If she doesn't clean up her yard, they will do it for her, and send her the bill. then when she can't pay, they'll take her to court and take the house.
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I'm with brief on this, although I assumed that he would be the type to keep "stuff" in his yard

I live in TN and there is no shortage of rednex with shit in their yard

Broken shit, scrap, junk but don't you dare call it junk in front of them because they will take great offense to the idea

In their little minds having 3-4 rusty cars or lawnmowers makes them wealthy, it doesn't and it brings the whole community down

Some counties here have passed a law making it illegal to have a sofa or recliner on your front porch, any indoor furniture is prohibited from being kept outside

I'm sure some of you would disagree with this and say the law is overstepping and I agree with you, however, I really hate seeing peoples trash on their lawn or porch

A sofa will be infested with mold and critters within weeks of being left outside but my fellow tennesseans are not smart enough to acknowledge that

tuff call here, is it a crime to be a dumb dirty redneck?

I say yes, if you choose to live in a nice neighborhood, you should have to help keep it nice

If you do not want to keep things nice then move out to the sticks where nobody has to see your shit

I'm with you on this one Brief, don't get used to it

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Land of the free and all that - I don't have time to argue with you tonight, Brief.

We'll do it again, soon hf
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Why is this surprising? When a country is full of fucking NAZIs, then this is the norm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1401121

Full of Ghetto slum with no police harassing them, whats up with that?
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Inflammatory troll is inflammatory...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8626202


I'm serious as all fuck...if my neighbor started collecting junk in his yard, I'd be pissed...
 Quoting: BRIEF
Pissed sure. Fine. But fining her - it seems without giveing her a chance to clean it up - jailing her, which means taxpayers pay a much larger sum, cutting down on her potential earning time (while she is in jail), doesn't help much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


You don't think she was warned and given a chance to clean up? LOL
 Quoting: BRIEF
She was fined directly. What, that doesn't happen where you live? Cops just give warnings to everyone first. Must be a nice area.
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10 days in jail Costs the state over 1000 dollars.

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They should have just given her the $1000. Then she could have paid the fine and had and extra $520.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295588


The $520 is pure profit for the State! Didn't you know that they love when people break their "laws"! It's money in the bank!

These sociopathic, statists cocksuckers even wrote 40,000 new ones last year alone, just so that even more people will break even more stupid fucking laws; which means even more profit for them!

Welcome to their own personal profit machine! You people paid for it! You may as well enjoy it.
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Re: Woman put in jail for being poor
No. She's in jail because she's an idiot.
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So it makes you feel better to make assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Has nothing to do with feeling better. Are one of those dope smokers?
 Quoting: BRIEF


the word around here is you enjoy anal scissoring with Scrump
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from the same crowd that smokes themselves into orbit everyday? LOL, I'm not surprised...
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I'm with brief on this, although I assumed that he would be the type to keep "stuff" in his yard

I live in TN and there is no shortage of rednex with shit in their yard

Broken shit, scrap, junk but don't you dare call it junk in front of them because they will take great offense to the idea

In their little minds having 3-4 rusty cars or lawnmowers makes them wealthy, it doesn't and it brings the whole community down

Some counties here have passed a law making it illegal to have a sofa or recliner on your front porch, any indoor furniture is prohibited from being kept outside

I'm sure some of you would disagree with this and say the law is overstepping and I agree with you, however, I really hate seeing peoples trash on their lawn or porch

A sofa will be infested with mold and critters within weeks of being left outside but my fellow tennesseans are not smart enough to acknowledge that

tuff call here, is it a crime to be a dumb dirty redneck?

I say yes, if you choose to live in a nice neighborhood, you should have to help keep it nice

If you do not want to keep things nice then move out to the sticks where nobody has to see your shit

I'm with you on this one Brief, don't get used to it

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Yeah, um thanks?

I'd love to have crap all over my yard but, as a financial counselor, my clients may have doubts about my credentials if they have to walk around moldy couches and broken lawnmowers to get to the house.
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No. She's in jail because she's an idiot.
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This kind of mentality is what needs to be eliminated from this country. Show your face, coward. SHOW IT!
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Land of the free and all that - I don't have time to argue with you tonight, Brief.

We'll do it again, soon hf
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I look forward to it Turtles smile_hear
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Well...there's a little clutter and then there's just plain junk piled several feet high. Who the heck would want to live next to that mess?

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I'm serious as all fuck...if my neighbor started collecting junk in his yard, I'd be pissed...
 Quoting: BRIEF
Pissed sure. Fine. But fining her - it seems without giveing her a chance to clean it up - jailing her, which means taxpayers pay a much larger sum, cutting down on her potential earning time (while she is in jail), doesn't help much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


You don't think she was warned and given a chance to clean up? LOL
 Quoting: BRIEF
She was fined directly. What, that doesn't happen where you live? Cops just give warnings to everyone first. Must be a nice area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Not too shabby ;)
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No. She's in jail because she's an idiot.
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This kind of mentality is what needs to be eliminated from this country. Show your face, coward. SHOW IT!
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Well...there's a little clutter and then there's just plain junk piled several feet high. Who the heck would want to live next to that mess?

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Oh my good god damn! I had no idea it was that bad!! LOL
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I would never live in an hoa area
way to restictive, it would seem like your renting
from the hoa and your house is not yours to do what you want to do to it.

I would not enjoy living next to someone with a bunch of
crap outside in there yard.... but it is there yard to do what they want. I would put up a fence or trees so i would not have to see it.
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My argument is that she should have bought less home, she probably assumed she would never lose her job and bought a place she can't afford.
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I can see your point Brief, but we don't KNOW that. Nor do we know the circumstances of her life. Nor do YOU know that a similar fate could not befall you.

However, personally, I am done paying fines for anything. If I do something "wrong" they can send me to jail, where I will not pay a damn dime to a corrupt system. No lawyers, no fines, no court costs.

And, people, please realize that the public is now paying to house and feed this woman for 10 days and paying her fine for her. A fine for a ridiculous "crime". A messy yard is not the end of the world, and it harms none. Its not as though it were piles of food scrap and causing a pest nuisance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6289134

It is sad, but it does hurt others, when their property goes down because of her messy yard.
 Quoting: Desert Fox
And here's what communities do. They approach the person, confront them with the issue, try to work out some kind of win, win situation. Put more pressure on, find other solutions.

They don't peer out their windows and call the police and make things worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301819


Exactly. But the concept of community is all but dead in the good ole states.. except in so called "ghettos" where many people will bust their asses to make sure their neighbors well being is of importance. (and i dont mean the damn drug slums, I mean the truly desolate people who strive daily just to feed themselves).
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Obviously with all of her "yard ornaments" she did not live in a gated community. . . .Now she does.

Only in America.
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