10 Reasons Why the Moon Landing Never Happened | |
AmericanInfidel User ID: 7932381 United States 02/01/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey NASA shills, answer this one simple challenge, IF YOU CAN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 Point to one example in the Bible where it says that the moon is a place that can be walked on. JUST ONE! LOL, you can't, can you? LOLLLLL Please do not cite the bible as a factual reference. Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish. Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage. KCCO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021092 United States 02/01/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uhhhh... As a Catholic, I forgive you. 1) For being horribly misinformed and judgemental 2) For somehow tying in your twisted belief system to the moon landings. Now, concerning the landings. How exactly was / is this all kept a secret after all these years? Wouldn't other governments (namely, Russia) blown the lid off such claims? We were in the space race with them at the time. Wouldn't of they called B.S.? Isn't it possible that guts, determination and good ole American ingenuity were the reasons for successful landings? Oh, and by the way, that's plural. why would they risk a hoax multiple times? Wouldn't that also increase the possibility other countries would call bullsh*t on this? I understand where the denial of the landings come from. There are some pretty good arguments. However, you would think that at least 25 of the thousands of people who worked on these mission would of blown the whistle by now. Think, think, think! To tell you the truth, I am not exactly sold either way. I'd like to believe that it occurred. And if GOD put it there, I would also like to think that he wouldn't mind if we visited. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021092 United States 02/01/2012 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia is Athiest and conspired with Catholic JFK to undermine God's word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 Well, not really. Around 63% of the Russia's population identify themselves with Orthodox Christianity,[58] most of whom belong to the Russian Orthodox Church, which played a vital role in the development of Russian national identity. In other countries Russian faithful usually belong to the local Orthodox congregations which either have a direct connection (like the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, autonomous from the Moscow Patriarchate) or historical origin (like the Orthodox Church in America or a Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia) with the Russian Orthodox Church. Non-religious Russians may associate themselves with the Orthodox faith for cultural reasons. Some Russian people are Old Believers: a relatively small schismatic group of the Russian Orthodoxy that rejected the liturgical reforms introduced in the 17th century. Other schisms from Orthodoxy include Doukhobors which in the 18th century rejected secular government, the Russian Orthodox priests, icons, all church ritual, the Bible as the supreme source of divine revelation and the divinity of Jesus, and later emigrated into Canada. An even earlier sect were Molokans which formed in 1550 and rejected Czar's divine right to rule, icons, the Trinity as outlined by the Nicene Creed, Orthodox fasts, military service, and practices including water baptism. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9905409 United States 02/01/2012 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia never put the first man in space either. That hoax was exposed by photo experts who noticed bubbles showing the set was under water! Soviet Space bamboozle [link to www.the_holocaust_happened] |
Aperture2012 User ID: 1375272 United States 02/01/2012 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The easiest way to tell is the missing stars, all sky in the moon photos are pitch black with no stars. ( Because that's impossible to fake back then. Today would be piece of cake thanks to CG). My dirt cheap point n shoot can do a better job, even on heavily polluted earth. Some folks are too proud to admit it so they say some moon shots are real, some are faked, that's quite laughable to say at least. |
Zero_cool User ID: 2003787 United States 02/01/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok explain me this laser ranging retroreflector was positioned on the Moon in 1969 by apollo 11. I saw a episode of The Big Bang Theory were they shoot a laser to the moon(they almost blowed up the moon) and then It came back on the computer the laser. Explain that to me Sherlock Zero_cool |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are facts? They're called the "belts" for a reason. The VARB are a concentrated region of charged particles from the Sun. In ordinary cislunar space, this concentration does not exist. I've shot pictures of the dark side of the Moon myself. Oh...you mean the FAR side? Well, there are numerous pictures of that as well...going all the way back to Apollo 8, but including every lunar mapping mission since from Clementine to the ESA's and Japan's. 8: The shadows in the moon photos go in different directions, BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE FILM SET LIGHTS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 They don't have multiple shadows. As much as they might like, Hollywood is unable to violate the laws of physics. And for that matter....you can go outside, find a patch of bare dirt and some sticks, and set up the shadow patterns in every single photograph in question. It isn't a matter of Hollywood (who doesn't light this way anyhow); it is a matter of ignorance of basic geometry on the part of the Apollo Denier. 7: Stanley Kubrick faked it in a studio and Donald Rumsfeld admitted it. ON CAMERA! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 In a clearly labeled spoof. I suppose you think James Bond is real, too. 6: There was a coke camera visible lying on the moon. PEOPLE SAW IT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 There were people on the Moon? Seriously, you parrot this junk without even understanding the claims you are copying. The claim is that a woman in Australia by the name of Uma saw a coke bottle in the live broadcast. That incriminating tape was later destroyed. It's a nice story, but one look at a CLOCK shows it is impossible. There was no live broadcast at the time she claims. Cameras would melt? Are you a Poe? Or just incompetent? I think you will find the usual claim is that FILM would melt. Me, I'd be more frightened for the astronauts if there was that kind of failure of thermal control. And I wish this was easy to answer, but since you've forgotten high school science there is simply too much material to cover (about the difference between conduction, radiation, and convection, for instance) within a single post. They didn't smile...those were broad GRINS on their faces in a famous photograph taken on the recovery vessel. Plenty of smiling going around. 2: They had no computers in 1969 guide the spaceship. HOW DID THEY PILOT IT? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 There were three on the Saturn V stack alone, plus bigger ones back at Houston. The AGC (the most famous of the former), is extremely well documented. You can download a virtual AGC yourself and run the original software. 1: God would never allow man to walk on His moon. He put it there for us to behold, NOT to jump around on. MOON LANDING IS BLASPHEMY! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 And now we get to the real point of what is either a Poe or a stick-ignorant bible-thumper. |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4: Rockets need to push away from something, like air, to move. There is no air in space, so what are they pushing against? NASA FAILS AT ROCKET SCIENCE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 Hey, didn't you just get kicked off the BAUT recently? I"m gonna let my little feathered friend handle this one: [link to www.youtube.com] |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the biggest reasons I find strange that they even went to the moon is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887 They were already sending space probes out to the planets and had already sent unmanned probes to the moon to collect samples etc. They already knew everything there was to know about the moon from this, and there is not really all that much to know about the moon its fairly basic. So why all of a sudden would they risk human life and great expense to send human to the moon just to do the same as what the unmanned probes had done anyway? It makes no sense. You're right. It wasn't done for the planetary science. (That said, having actual trained geology field students -- and one professional geologist -- on the Moon in person was very, very nice). Also worth noting that the state of the art of robotics in 1960 meant having live astronauts set up the various pieces of equipment left there meant more accurate set-up of more instruments and more complex instruments. However. The penultimate reason was political; to score points in world opinion. The US and the Soviet Union were each posing and primping and trying to get as many small developing nations to go to "their side" as possible. Looking like the masters of science and technology was one way to attract these nations. And the Soviets had a leg up on that with Sputnik. The ultimate reason was to apply a kick to the pants to America, specifically science education, higher education, and the aerospace infrastructure. American kids were cutting classes and doing miserably in science compared to the rest of the world (sound familiar?) and American industry was turning out giant poorly-built automobiles and losing in electronics and miniaturization and a hundred other places to western Europe and Japan. (This should ALSO sound familiar!) We could use another inspiring, national program now. |
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nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what did they moon buggy run on .... wasnt batteries that for sure ... fake fake fake Quoting: where's my stapler maybe it was pedal powered You got it in one. Batteries. Have you calculated to see if the stated range was impossible? Here's some discussion of the basic formula; [link to www.diyelectriccar.com] Now remember you are running in 1/6 G, in a rover that barely masses 210 kg (plus two astronauts as payload), and the largest total distance driven by any rover was just shy of 36 kilometers. The batteries were silver-zinc potassium hydroxide. The energy density of those batteries is easy enough to find on various technical forums. You should be able to approximate the calculation in a couple of minutes. I'd show you (yes; I've done this calculation in the past), but if you do it yourself you might actually learn something. |
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nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, where did they store their golfclubs and lunar rover on that tinty, two-man module? Have you seen the cramped quarters on our space shuttles...APPOLLO 11 DIDN'T HAVE A STORAGE BAY!? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9489638 They didn't, and you are wrong as well! All of the LM had the MESA; this was an equipment pallet attached to the outside of the spacecraft. The MESA, which could be deployed from the "ledge," contained a mounting spot for the camera that picked up the "first steps." In the later "J-Class," I think they were called, missions, another storage pallet was added in the opposite quadrant. There was no golf club carried. Harrison Schmidt carried a head as part of his personal allowance. Other men carried photographs, a bible, etc. For the famous shot, he screwed the head on to the end of a geology tool he had been using. Once again I am amused by how opinionated people can be about a subject they obviously have not taken the time to learn even the basics about. |
FraudulentZodiac User ID: 8190102 United States 02/01/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10: The Van Allen belt will kill anyone in space. FACT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 9: There are no photos of the dark side of the moon. WHY? 8: The shadows in the moon photos go in different directions, BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE FILM SET LIGHTS! 7: Stanley Kubrick faked it in a studio and Donald Rumsfeld admitted it. ON CAMERA! 6: There was a coke camera visible lying on the moon. PEOPLE SAW IT! 5: Cameras don't work on the moon. THEY WOULD MELT! 3: The astronauts didn't smile when they got home. WHY NOT? 2: They had no computers in 1969 guide the spaceship. HOW DID THEY PILOT IT? 1: God would never allow man to walk on His moon. He put it there for us to behold, NOT to jump around on. MOON LANDING IS BLASPHEMY! NASA = NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER! You had me till that. You obviously have a lot of ideas of who you think this "god" entity is. Im pretty sure it would not give a shit if we went to the moon or not. Laughable, just a box in a cage. The Moon is an artificial satellite. "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet" - Hunter S. Thompson "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe We are all just ins inside the out, and outs inside the ins. |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to be a broken record, but what size should it be? Perhaps a question in return will help you think about the problem more clearly. How big should the moon be in a photograph taken from Earth? This big? [link to images.lightstalkers.org] This big? [link to farm4.static.flickr.com] Do you perhaps grasp that focal length might have something to do with the amount of frame filled by the Moon? |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 2380183 United States 02/01/2012 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When NASA said it will take another twenty years to come up with a safety measure to pass Van Ellen belt, you know they said too much this time Quoting: Aperture2012 The easiest way to tell is the missing stars, all sky in the moon photos are pitch black with no stars. ( Because that's impossible to fake back then. Today would be piece of cake thanks to CG). My dirt cheap point n shoot can do a better job, even on heavily polluted earth. Some folks are too proud to admit it so they say some moon shots are real, some are faked, that's quite laughable to say at least. Why are there stars in 2001 (1968), Star Wars (1977), Destination Moon (1950).... Apparently Hollywood was quite able to fake them. And why would there be stars over a rocky landscape in full sunlight? Do you think NASA had sooper-secret film with a dynamic range a million times greater than anyone else had access too? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1149306 United States 02/01/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When NASA said it will take another twenty years to come up with a safety measure to pass Van Ellen belt, you know they said too much this time Quoting: Aperture2012 The easiest way to tell is the missing stars, all sky in the moon photos are pitch black with no stars. ( Because that's impossible to fake back then. Today would be piece of cake thanks to CG). My dirt cheap point n shoot can do a better job, even on heavily polluted earth. Some folks are too proud to admit it so they say some moon shots are real, some are faked, that's quite laughable to say at least. The stars are far too dim to show up on film exposed for bright sunlight conditions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6956382 United States 02/01/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey NASA shills, answer this one simple challenge, IF YOU CAN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 Point to one example in the Bible where it says that the moon is a place that can be walked on. JUST ONE! LOL, you can't, can you? LOLLLLL Please do not cite the bible as a factual reference. It can be with proper interpretation/translation. Think of it as "whitewashed" history. When you translate from a different language to another language and so on, the meaning of words tend to change... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10018530 Australia 02/01/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what did they moon buggy run on .... wasnt batteries that for sure ... fake fake fake Quoting: where's my stapler maybe it was pedal powered Why did it not run on batteries? Because it obviously was a fucken flintsones car, since all that "high tech" shit could not possibly have existed in 1969. I think you have issues dude, they clearly had car batteries back then. Remember they only drove around in it for like 1 hour. my god you are stupid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1474732 Australia 02/01/2012 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10: The Van Allen belt will kill anyone in space. FACT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 9: There are no photos of the dark side of the moon. WHY? 8: The shadows in the moon photos go in different directions, BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE FILM SET LIGHTS! 7: Stanley Kubrick faked it in a studio and Donald Rumsfeld admitted it. ON CAMERA! 6: There was a coke camera visible lying on the moon. PEOPLE SAW IT! 5: Cameras don't work on the moon. THEY WOULD MELT! 3: The astronauts didn't smile when they got home. WHY NOT? 2: They had no computers in 1969 guide the spaceship. HOW DID THEY PILOT IT? 1: God would never allow man to walk on His moon. He put it there for us to behold, NOT to jump around on. MOON LANDING IS BLASPHEMY! NASA = NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER! 11. The Americans told us so. So it is definitely another government fabricated lie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1474732 Australia 02/01/2012 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are facts? Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183 They're called the "belts" for a reason. The VARB are a concentrated region of charged particles from the Sun. In ordinary cislunar space, this concentration does not exist. I've shot pictures of the dark side of the Moon myself. Oh...you mean the FAR side? Well, there are numerous pictures of that as well...going all the way back to Apollo 8, but including every lunar mapping mission since from Clementine to the ESA's and Japan's. 8: The shadows in the moon photos go in different directions, BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE FILM SET LIGHTS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 They don't have multiple shadows. As much as they might like, Hollywood is unable to violate the laws of physics. And for that matter....you can go outside, find a patch of bare dirt and some sticks, and set up the shadow patterns in every single photograph in question. It isn't a matter of Hollywood (who doesn't light this way anyhow); it is a matter of ignorance of basic geometry on the part of the Apollo Denier. 7: Stanley Kubrick faked it in a studio and Donald Rumsfeld admitted it. ON CAMERA! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 In a clearly labeled spoof. I suppose you think James Bond is real, too. 6: There was a coke camera visible lying on the moon. PEOPLE SAW IT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 There were people on the Moon? Seriously, you parrot this junk without even understanding the claims you are copying. The claim is that a woman in Australia by the name of Uma saw a coke bottle in the live broadcast. That incriminating tape was later destroyed. It's a nice story, but one look at a CLOCK shows it is impossible. There was no live broadcast at the time she claims. Cameras would melt? Are you a Poe? Or just incompetent? I think you will find the usual claim is that FILM would melt. Me, I'd be more frightened for the astronauts if there was that kind of failure of thermal control. And I wish this was easy to answer, but since you've forgotten high school science there is simply too much material to cover (about the difference between conduction, radiation, and convection, for instance) within a single post. They didn't smile...those were broad GRINS on their faces in a famous photograph taken on the recovery vessel. Plenty of smiling going around. 2: They had no computers in 1969 guide the spaceship. HOW DID THEY PILOT IT? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 There were three on the Saturn V stack alone, plus bigger ones back at Houston. The AGC (the most famous of the former), is extremely well documented. You can download a virtual AGC yourself and run the original software. 1: God would never allow man to walk on His moon. He put it there for us to behold, NOT to jump around on. MOON LANDING IS BLASPHEMY! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 And now we get to the real point of what is either a Poe or a stick-ignorant bible-thumper. What proof do you have that everything you're saying is 100% fact? For all we know it is just another stupid opinion. |
BossBattles User ID: 6464373 United States 02/01/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10: The Van Allen belt will kill anyone in space. FACT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518 9: There are no photos of the dark side of the moon. WHY? 8: The shadows in the moon photos go in different directions, BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE FILM SET LIGHTS! 7: Stanley Kubrick faked it in a studio and Donald Rumsfeld admitted it. ON CAMERA! 6: There was a coke camera visible lying on the moon. PEOPLE SAW IT! 5: Cameras don't work on the moon. THEY WOULD MELT! 3: The astronauts didn't smile when they got home. WHY NOT? 2: They had no computers in 1969 guide the spaceship. HOW DID THEY PILOT IT? 1: God would never allow man to walk on His moon. He put it there for us to behold, NOT to jump around on. MOON LANDING IS BLASPHEMY! NASA = NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER! Well, what we were shown as a "moon landing" is fake. Doesn't mean they didn't go in much more advanced technology. If anyone thinks that we made it to the moon in that tin can, they are under mind control. I can say what I want to, even if I'm not serious. |