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Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age

 
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Buddhists believe once one reaches enlightenment; They will bring with them an age of enlightenment conveyed to all.

Hold on a sec.
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Do you remember when you were perfect
Flowing freely and knowing no bounds
Spaceman Surgeon intrepid explorer of all that was

It all ended the moment you felt other eyes weighing you
You became of two minds
You became a weight to be measured
You became entrapped by the simplest but most oppressive of Magics

they told you
they measured your weight
they made you fear

Only the lightest of hearts will find enlightenment
Only the lightest of feathers will drift to heaven
Only you will say when you can't be weighed

Only you will find the path torn from you
By the strongest of magics
Doubt
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hi OP,

Im not suprised that there is not many other comments, its way overheaded in here.

how did you get there? I try understanding these things but its difficult. the Hindu words that cant be translated are such a challange.

Im reading the links you provided and everything else here too.

not sure why though...


thanks
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hi OP,

Im not suprised that there is not many other comments, its way overheaded in here.

how did you get there? I try understanding these things but its difficult. the Hindu words that cant be translated are such a challange.

Im reading the links you provided and everything else here too.

not sure why though...


thanks
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Who ever is, sure that is.
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>>Who ever is, sure that is.<<

can you re-word that? in other words..

thanks
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Is the essential quality of time speeding up or are we being bombarded with too many media sources in which the novelty is skipping past our actively filtered constructs?

Input actively eats processing time if it is not a predigested variable.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Can you explain the Schumann Resonance. How is the vibrations of earth working with our constructed time. I do feel time is speeding up. I don't watch the TV and try to stay balanced during the day. I feel the earth is vibrating faster than ever and that is causing all humans to evolve.

I would love to hear your thoughts.

Peace
Amy
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Is the essential quality of time speeding up or are we being bombarded with too many media sources in which the novelty is skipping past our actively filtered constructs?

Input actively eats processing time if it is not a predigested variable.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Can you explain the Schumann Resonance. How is the vibrations of earth working with our constructed time. I do feel time is speeding up. I don't watch the TV and try to stay balanced during the day. I feel the earth is vibrating faster than ever and that is causing all humans to evolve.

I would love to hear your thoughts.

Peace
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The Schumann resonance is dependent on 2 factors: The speed of light and the circumference of the Earth. Even the most dynamic of solar events, to date, has caused a 0.5hz increase in the resonance.

That leaves 2 theories: One, that we are entering a more energetic area of space in the guise of a highly charged plasma.

Two, that something is inducing our relationship to time to alter on the qualitative scale. Could it be something as simple as an induced phenomena from the change in dominant media to computers and heightened refresh rates or induced mesmerism/fog. All media changes our relationship and perceptions of the world as is their massage.

On the internet, we are discarnate. Everywhere and nowhere at once.
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>>Who ever is, sure that is.<<

can you re-word that? in other words..

thanks
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You were saying you weren't sure why you were reading what was on the thread. All I was saying is: We don't know until we develop an Idea of relevance towards the quality of the data as we allow ourselves to perceive it.

Thus we may never be sure why unless it presents us with an opportunity to learn or grow.
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If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.
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I have thought long on these concepts.
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If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have thought long on these concepts.
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And I think that is our collective problem.
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1. If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

2. If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

3. It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

4. We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have thought long on these concepts.
 Quoting: SickScent


And I think that is our collective problem.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


1. You will be a loner, at least temporarily, while you wait for everyone else to catch-up.

2. We have to redefine or better yet, eliminate the barter/monetary type system. This can only be done by finding/using a new source of energy. Anything that uses energy in the human condition costs money. From food, to fuel, to labor, to making energy. That is how we will be raised...eliminating the cost of energy would absolutely destroy ANY monetary system as the monetary system is based purely and exclusively on energy consumption.

3. It must be recognized as our solution, and treated as such...not kept for isolated use, but for everyone's use.

4. Transparency of all organizational structures and procedures. This would effectively eliminate the hierarchical structures as well as the base foundation of corruption. This would also be reenforced by the release of unlimited and universally free source of energy.
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Looks like it's just another poor fellow producing grotesque theories of everything out of muddle in his own head, misinterpreted scientific concepts and new age-like sermons, nothing to see here, guys, move along.
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If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have thought long on these concepts.
 Quoting: SickScent


And I think that is our collective problem.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What I am getting at is our discourse has been limited by the induced trauma of fitting in. Groupthink. It effectively leads to closed cyclical arguments emanating from a closed preformulated position.

It also effectively eliminates most unconventional thought by limiting its spread through the preordained constructs of social convention.
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If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have thought long on these concepts.
 Quoting: SickScent


And I think that is our collective problem.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What I am getting at is our discourse has been limited by the induced trauma of fitting in. Groupthink. It effectively leads to closed cyclical arguments emanating from a closed preformulated position.

It also effectively eliminates most unconventional thought by limiting its spread through the preordained constructs of social convention.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Confined within the box.
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Looks like it's just another poor fellow producing grotesque theories of everything out of muddle in his own head, misinterpreted scientific concepts and new age-like sermons, nothing to see here, guys, move along.
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Since everything scientific is a set definition, take a moment to tell me where I'm erring?

Nothing new age here friend, get a clue or a dictionary of religio mythological concepts and think for yourself.

Have the drama police officially declared you an authority of pompous declarative statements. In which case i'll need to see your papers?
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I have thought long on these concepts.
 Quoting: SickScent


And I think that is our collective problem.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What I am getting at is our discourse has been limited by the induced trauma of fitting in. Groupthink. It effectively leads to closed cyclical arguments emanating from a closed preformulated position.

It also effectively eliminates most unconventional thought by limiting its spread through the preordained constructs of social convention.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Confined within the box.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes a self propagating culturally indoctrinated box.
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And I think that is our collective problem.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What I am getting at is our discourse has been limited by the induced trauma of fitting in. Groupthink. It effectively leads to closed cyclical arguments emanating from a closed preformulated position.

It also effectively eliminates most unconventional thought by limiting its spread through the preordained constructs of social convention.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Confined within the box.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes a self propagating culturally indoctrinated box.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Has there ever existed a culture that was not defined by a box?
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What I am getting at is our discourse has been limited by the induced trauma of fitting in. Groupthink. It effectively leads to closed cyclical arguments emanating from a closed preformulated position.

It also effectively eliminates most unconventional thought by limiting its spread through the preordained constructs of social convention.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Confined within the box.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes a self propagating culturally indoctrinated box.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Has there ever existed a culture that was not defined by a box?
 Quoting: SickScent


Cultures are always defined by something, may it be the environment itself or social pressures internal or external. But, As history will tell us unifying dogmas come at the price of stifling creativity.

A society in upheaval is likely the only time a true freedom is afforded until order seeks the unifying principle which most suits them.
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Confined within the box.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes a self propagating culturally indoctrinated box.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Has there ever existed a culture that was not defined by a box?
 Quoting: SickScent


Cultures are always defined by something, may it be the environment itself or social pressures internal or external. But, As history will tell us unifying dogmas come at the price of stifling creativity.

A society in upheaval is likely the only time a true freedom is afforded until order seeks the unifying principle which most suits them.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Nice thought there.

Control = lack of creativity (or chaos to universal reality)

Freedom = spontaneity of creativity (or order to universal reality)
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1. If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

2. If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

3. It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

4. We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have thought long on these concepts.
 Quoting: SickScent


And I think that is our collective problem.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


1. You will be a loner, at least temporarily, while you wait for everyone else to catch-up.

2. We have to redefine or better yet, eliminate the barter/monetary type system. This can only be done by finding/using a new source of energy. Anything that uses energy in the human condition costs money. From food, to fuel, to labor, to making energy. That is how we will be raised...eliminating the cost of energy would absolutely destroy ANY monetary system as the monetary system is based purely and exclusively on energy consumption.

3. It must be recognized as our solution, and treated as such...not kept for isolated use, but for everyone's use.

4. Transparency of all organizational structures and procedures. This would effectively eliminate the hierarchical structures as well as the base foundation of corruption. This would also be reenforced by the release of unlimited and universally free source of energy.
 Quoting: SickScent


I agree, but it takes too much thinking for most. I've always worked by myself, for myself and most think it's too untenable a position. The supposed elites depend more on our disaffection and disinterest then actual control systems, until recently.

Mr Federation that chimed in is a great example of our self limiting paradigm using only designated phrases and no explanations forthcoming in his statements.

I think the current system is good, but with the forced engagement of the citizenry and the pragmatic understanding of the systems in place.

A lack of education has obscured peoples knowledge and made them believe the system exists in spite of them, not because of them.

This is why we have constructed the archetypical pattern of the Apocalypse to free us from engagement or responsibility.
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Since everything scientific is a set definition, take a moment to tell me where I'm erring?

Nothing new age here friend, get a clue or a dictionary of religio mythological concepts and think for yourself.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


It's hard to falsify what you wrote because you hardly wrote anything sensible. Your error is that you combine everything with everything. Just don't jump so easy from physical theories of time to human consciousness, then to the way human collectives act, then to some mayan astrology, then to galactic magnetic fields, then to atonal music, then to indian philosophy and whatever else, try to focus on one subject.
In fact I just wanted to warn those who may be deluded by your "smartass" talking into false impression that you know what you are talking about, nothing more, you can continue your theorizing.
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Since everything scientific is a set definition, take a moment to tell me where I'm erring?

Nothing new age here friend, get a clue or a dictionary of religio mythological concepts and think for yourself.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


It's hard to falsify what you wrote because you hardly wrote anything sensible. Your error is that you combine everything with everything. Just don't jump so easy from physical theories of time to human consciousness, then to the way human collectives act, then to some mayan astrology, then to galactic magnetic fields, then to atonal music, then to indian philosophy and whatever else, try to focus on one subject.
In fact I just wanted to warn those who may be deluded by your "smartass" talking into false impression that you know what you are talking about, nothing more, you can continue your theorizing.
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Thank you for allowing it. May I see your papers and theories please.
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Thank you for allowing it. May I see your papers and theories please.
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Is this what they call "ad hominem" argument?
Well, I repeat again: it is impossible to explain you what is wrong with your theories because they are not falsifiable, just like Bible, Marxism or any myth.
I have nothing against you and your world-view, if your theories help you to reconcile yourself or your friends with this world that's good, I just don't like the way you guys use authority of science and religions to ground your fantasies.
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It may be that my messages sounded a bit too rude, I am sorry then, I didn't really mean to offend you, mate. I see you have a lucid mind and good intentions, just try to be more rigid and modest when you theorize.
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Thank you for allowing it. May I see your papers and theories please.
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Is this what they call "ad hominem" argument?
Well, I repeat again: it is impossible to explain you what is wrong with your theories because they are not falsifiable, just like Bible, Marxism or any myth.
I have nothing against you and your world-view, if your theories help you to reconcile yourself or your friends with this world that's good, I just don't like the way you guys use authority of science and religions to ground your fantasies.
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No Sir I have made statements on the dipole basis of reality, if you had discernment enough you would see the connection in the theories I brought forth on buddhism and brahminism. I also stated Lunar cycles were terrestrial in nature, affecting both the endocrine systems of humans and tidal influence; whereas solar aspects did not have as strong effects.

I stated that group induced trauma caused the individual to shun individual pursuits. Your statements either suit your goals or your lack of sight.

I think I made it pretty clear that I am not a guru or seeking to be one. I'm seeking others thoughts on the basis of time, the eschaton and psychological filters and theories under the umbrella of conciousness. I don't seek to lead but to partake and you seek nothing but making blanket statements to fulfill whatever your aim.

Cheers
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It may be that my messages sounded a bit too rude, I am sorry then, I didn't really mean to offend you, mate. I see you have a lucid mind and good intentions, just try to be more rigid and modest when you theorize.
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No worries, if I'm too rigid I induce my theories in you the reader. I don't seek to bolster my arguments and aggrandize myself; As I would be perpetuating my own ego. I seek to understand others and thus myself by hearing what they think.

Thank you for the consideration.
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Conflict and imminent chaos more aptly describe the individual through action than any words.
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1. a type of reproduction, occurring in some insects and flowers, in which the unfertilized ovum develops directly into a new individual
2. human conception without fertilization by a male; virgin birth

[C19: from Greek parthenos virgin + genesis birth]

parthenogenetic
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Time wave Zero and I ching inspired novelty theory:

We are on the brink of possibilities that will make us literally unrecognizable to ourselves and those possibilities will be realized, not in the next thousand years but in the next 20 years because the acceleration of invention and novelty and information transfer is at this point so rapid…

Timewave Zero is an exploratory idea system and a software package that runs on personal computers. It is the broadcast output of the naturally superconducting experimentaldeoxyribonucleic matrix transceiver operating in hyperspace.

We believe that by using such ideas as a compass for the collectivity, we may find our way back to a new model in time to reverse the progressive worldwide alienation that is fast hurling us into an ecocidal planetary crisis. A model of time must give hope and overcome entropy in its formal composition.

In other words, it must mathematically secure the reasonableness of hope. This theory, and indeed the mathematical theory of dynamic systems generally does this by securing in a formal manner the process by which transformation can naturally arise and persist out of a background of flux.

It becomes increasingly clear that we are now experiencing a period marked with extreme density of novel ingressions, a time when the rational and acausal tendencies inherent in time may again reverse their positions of dominance.


[link to timewave.wordpress.com]
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God does not interfere with mans choices. He solely sets alarm clocks in the heavens with pictures we cannot misconstrue.





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