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Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age

 
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Quotes from one of the Illuminated ones:

A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.
Joseph Campbell

Computers are like Old Testament gods; lots of rules and no mercy.
Joseph Campbell

Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble.
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Find a place inside where there's joy, and the joy will burn out the pain.
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Follow your bliss and the universe will open doors where there were only walls.
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God is a metaphor for that which transcends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that.
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I don't believe people are looking for the meaning of life as much as they are looking for the experience of being alive.
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I don't have to have faith, I have experience.
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Joseph Campbell...influenced my life more than any other.

Follow your bliss...indeed.

I hear you.

Thanks Diony.

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You have great insight. Can you explain why some people on GLP and around the world are saying they are vibrating or awake? I have my thoughts but would love to hear yours.

Peace to you
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Joseph Campbell...influenced my life more than any other.

Follow your bliss...indeed.

I hear you.

Thanks Diony.

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That is indeed rule one if there was a rulebook.
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You have great insight. Can you explain why some people on GLP and around the world are saying they are vibrating or awake? I have my thoughts but would love to hear yours.

Peace to you
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It's all dependent on the source and the case. Unless we are specifying a source, a discovery or a specific catalyst we can look from autosuggestion to induced hysteria or even potentially there being some retuning phenomenon. Without some order of specificity we can liken it anything we want it to be. Which is a dangerous position opening one up to all sorts of suggestibility.

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Oh no! The one-sentence-paragraph pandit has arrived!!! Hide your children, don your tinfoil hats, batten up the hatches! scared
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I Am Known it Appears
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Panda, I am honored, who is your Order? What Order were you trained in? Youre very good.

Im really moved by this part

(What not normally Known by would be alchemists is that greater than turning

lead into Gold, is The Turning of Iron into Light)

I know that the Man with the Iron Rod will do this, Im thinking via genetic manipulation and a world of enlightenment and Gnosis.

Im still reading what you wrote and may come back with comments and questions tomorrow as I cant hardly keep my eyes open, But your teachings are a real gem.
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perhaps this iron is the iron in the blood turned to light/a higher frequency structure as the lightbody activates...thus the Holy Spirit flowing through the individuals blood...thus making he/she a demigod ;)
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I do like the plasmic theory as it denotes factors on many levels, It definitely transmutes oxygen into heat and light. But, the theory of holy spirit in blood is a cross contamination from indo aryan and grecian traditions. The holy fire is denoted as fire and in the place of crown.

Placing the fool card and the Kalki avatar as synonymous is also a misinterpretation. As Kalki, who's previous manifestation as Krishna is dated to the post diluvean period. Putting Kalkis last metaphorical avatarhood at roughly 3000BCE. That would place us at the end of the Kalpa which has a hundred year relent, but not the Yuga, a galactic season, which is roughly 1.72 million years.

The triune or tripartite god is a good assessment of dominant mythologies and psychological constructs, think Freud. But, we are indeed in a Jungian age.

There was a reason that sages past placed their knowledge in the sky. It is a fairly unwavering backdrop as only slightly inaccuracies haunt Saturns (Chronos) machines, the leap year and the 5 days that gods rested.

We are the fool and as the fool dies (apokalyptos) we again recieve the gift of sight. Whether it is retained is a question of how we treat our rights and responsibilities, not manifest in some god or gods doing the heavy lifting for us.

You are Prometheus, do not allow anyone to make you a clown.
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God does not interfere with mans choices. He solely sets alarm clocks in the heavens with pictures we cannot misconstrue.
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What will likely be revealed is that we will realize that the ego we believe to be us is an external construct. A filter if you will. In my assessment its a product of trauma and rationalizing its necessity. All the information is already there. We just need to see it by removing the filter.

Cancel my subscription to the resurrection
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And see where everything falls
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When we do good, we create, we allow richness to flow from one to the other.

When we do evil, we sever the flow and leave it to pool and puddle about us.

Eventually we and our children are drowned by greed in our own vanity.

Even religion seeks to create puddles by ascribing true testament to its own dogmas and self rationalizations.

We wait for the flood as we are drowning.
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Don't just look, drop a thought, it costs you nothing and it may create larger ripples than you ever know.
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Don't just look, drop a thought, it costs you nothing and it may create larger ripples than you ever know.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


OK!



Sitting alone in cold rooms of silence...my thoughts descend from darkness above.

In our minds I believe we do our sentence, trapped by linguistics and conceptualization. They are never enough…

Out of the vast emptiness of higher densities they come. Across living energy and the reality of dreams they bring messages to minds so numb. We question what we experience and deny, or bury deep the avenue to enlightenment.

Do they realize that every moment, waking or dreaming or disembodied, is woven into life… life that is brighter than love and more mysterious than darkness? Life that is forever and always… everchanging.

-SS
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Don't just look, drop a thought, it costs you nothing and it may create larger ripples than you ever know.
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OK!



Sitting alone in cold rooms of silence...my thoughts descend from darkness above.

In our minds I believe we do our sentence, trapped by linguistics and conceptualization. They are never enough…

Out of the vast emptiness of higher densities they come. Across living energy and the reality of dreams they bring messages to minds so numb. We question what we experience and deny, or bury deep the avenue to enlightenment.

Do they realize that every moment, waking or dreaming or disembodied, is woven into life… life that is brighter than love and more mysterious than darkness? Life that is forever and always… everchanging.

-SS
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Beautiful.
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The Oxford English Dictionary defines eschatology as "The department of theological science concerned with ‘the four last things: death, judgement, heaven, and hell’."

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The Oxford English Dictionary defines eschatology as "The department of theological science concerned with ‘the four last things: death, judgement, heaven, and hell’."

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The buddhists believe when we know how to die, only then will we truly ever live.
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Until then it's Bardo and unfortunately it ain't Brigitte.
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Well, let me deduce as you adduce my postulations. I have stated, we are not the creator or creators of matter. Thus WE are not the creator. My only statement is that direct intervention is not in the realm of choice, will, intent or potentiality. Thus god is indirect and directly interwoven in conciousness. He She It is interwoven into laws that we with imperfect conciousness seek to understand.

Therefore it is likely you construing I don't agree with Russell more than I disagreeing with him; Unless of course an inability to see or strive is hiding in your statement and I'm misconstruing it.

All matter in deed has cause and effect on each the other as interpolation and communication is key to understanding and creating states of clarity.

Dynamism, even in god, is the uncapturable essence that alters perspectives while itself remaining a constant to entropy .

For simplicities sake: God is the dreamer eliciting the images and tones which from Aeons on high to divine humanity we interpret as perfectly or as imperfectly as we have sight to see.

The wheels were set in motion and the rules unwaveringly hold the system together until the final inhalation. The potentialities henceforth (from inception) are resultant of the interactions of the systems put into motion and the alterations caused by the clarity or lack thereof of the potentialities or capabilities ascribed to the myriad players on the board.
 Quoting: dion


big bang = the free miracle

everything must end because human imagination placed a beginning within eternity

that fatal flaw is the cause of all that is mystery within humankind of this earth.
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Well, let me deduce as you adduce my postulations. I have stated, we are not the creator or creators of matter. Thus WE are not the creator. My only statement is that direct intervention is not in the realm of choice, will, intent or potentiality. Thus god is indirect and directly interwoven in conciousness. He She It is interwoven into laws that we with imperfect conciousness seek to understand.

Therefore it is likely you construing I don't agree with Russell more than I disagreeing with him; Unless of course an inability to see or strive is hiding in your statement and I'm misconstruing it.

All matter in deed has cause and effect on each the other as interpolation and communication is key to understanding and creating states of clarity.

Dynamism, even in god, is the uncapturable essence that alters perspectives while itself remaining a constant to entropy .

For simplicities sake: God is the dreamer eliciting the images and tones which from Aeons on high to divine humanity we interpret as perfectly or as imperfectly as we have sight to see.

The wheels were set in motion and the rules unwaveringly hold the system together until the final inhalation. The potentialities henceforth (from inception) are resultant of the interactions of the systems put into motion and the alterations caused by the clarity or lack thereof of the potentialities or capabilities ascribed to the myriad players on the board.
 Quoting: dion


big bang = the free miracle

everything must end because human imagination placed a beginning within eternity

that fatal flaw is the cause of all that is mystery within humankind of this earth.
 Quoting: aether


I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
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Well, let me deduce as you adduce my postulations. I have stated, we are not the creator or creators of matter. Thus WE are not the creator. My only statement is that direct intervention is not in the realm of choice, will, intent or potentiality. Thus god is indirect and directly interwoven in conciousness. He She It is interwoven into laws that we with imperfect conciousness seek to understand.

Therefore it is likely you construing I don't agree with Russell more than I disagreeing with him; Unless of course an inability to see or strive is hiding in your statement and I'm misconstruing it.

All matter in deed has cause and effect on each the other as interpolation and communication is key to understanding and creating states of clarity.

Dynamism, even in god, is the uncapturable essence that alters perspectives while itself remaining a constant to entropy .

For simplicities sake: God is the dreamer eliciting the images and tones which from Aeons on high to divine humanity we interpret as perfectly or as imperfectly as we have sight to see.

The wheels were set in motion and the rules unwaveringly hold the system together until the final inhalation. The potentialities henceforth (from inception) are resultant of the interactions of the systems put into motion and the alterations caused by the clarity or lack thereof of the potentialities or capabilities ascribed to the myriad players on the board.
 Quoting: dion


big bang = the free miracle

everything must end because human imagination placed a beginning within eternity

that fatal flaw is the cause of all that is mystery within humankind of this earth.
 Quoting: aether


I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Dionysian, what is your personal take on reincarnation and the possibility of people to 'see' past the veil? To KNOW that they have an eternal 'spirit'?

Would that be your Transhumanism? At least a section of it, I suppose. The only way to see past the emanations of death is to be able to see beyond it. The unknown of death is the emanation of darkness that keeps them bound to repeating the same patterns of behavior.
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Well, let me deduce as you adduce my postulations. I have stated, we are not the creator or creators of matter. Thus WE are not the creator. My only statement is that direct intervention is not in the realm of choice, will, intent or potentiality. Thus god is indirect and directly interwoven in conciousness. He She It is interwoven into laws that we with imperfect conciousness seek to understand.

Therefore it is likely you construing I don't agree with Russell more than I disagreeing with him; Unless of course an inability to see or strive is hiding in your statement and I'm misconstruing it.

All matter in deed has cause and effect on each the other as interpolation and communication is key to understanding and creating states of clarity.

Dynamism, even in god, is the uncapturable essence that alters perspectives while itself remaining a constant to entropy .

For simplicities sake: God is the dreamer eliciting the images and tones which from Aeons on high to divine humanity we interpret as perfectly or as imperfectly as we have sight to see.

The wheels were set in motion and the rules unwaveringly hold the system together until the final inhalation. The potentialities henceforth (from inception) are resultant of the interactions of the systems put into motion and the alterations caused by the clarity or lack thereof of the potentialities or capabilities ascribed to the myriad players on the board.
 Quoting: dion


big bang = the free miracle

everything must end because human imagination placed a beginning within eternity

that fatal flaw is the cause of all that is mystery within humankind of this earth.
 Quoting: aether


I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Dionysian, what is your personal take on reincarnation and the possibility of people to 'see' past the veil? To KNOW that they have an eternal 'spirit'?

Would that be your Transhumanism? At least a section of it, I suppose. The only way to see past the emanations of death is to be able to see beyond it. The unknown of death is the emanation of darkness that keeps them bound to repeating the same patterns of behavior.
 Quoting: SickScent


I think death is what makes the game interesting. Fear is the chaos or potential that defines who we are, with no context of loss or failure; Where would the summit of achievement stand other than a plain that would not afford us further vision and ability. Nothing can be given in any other way than by experience. In my estimation this is where the fall into the material sublimated as a recontextualized storyline in all cultures.

As I speak of colour and tone as vibration we can paralell emotion into this paradigm as well. The excited wave spawns heights and pulls tight. The lacksadaisic bass waves pushes aggressively and stays low.

In summation to my ramblings what I am saying is that fear is a self cycling paradigm. we take false heights, say addiction: drugs, material possession, and they ascribe us no view and low aggressive bass waves, morose colours. We strive and frequency is generated and in truth moreso. We are afforded magnificent vistas and elevating tones and colours.

I try not to say anything by accident and most of this is nothing new to you, but I think it may make my meandering slightly more clear.

We already know, but we must experience or we cannot attain grace. We would have knowledge with no wisdom, no context.
Our divine souls may be perfect and eternal, but they cannot understand without antithesis. Thus we must fall until we are completely attuned to the highest places.

In simplest of terms, this is why the rich man will never taste heaven. It is not a quantity, but quality.
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big bang = the free miracle

everything must end because human imagination placed a beginning within eternity

that fatal flaw is the cause of all that is mystery within humankind of this earth.
 Quoting: aether


I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Dionysian, what is your personal take on reincarnation and the possibility of people to 'see' past the veil? To KNOW that they have an eternal 'spirit'?

Would that be your Transhumanism? At least a section of it, I suppose. The only way to see past the emanations of death is to be able to see beyond it. The unknown of death is the emanation of darkness that keeps them bound to repeating the same patterns of behavior.
 Quoting: SickScent


I think death is what makes the game interesting. Fear is the chaos or potential that defines who we are, with no context of loss or failure; Where would the summit of achievement stand other than a plain that would not afford us further vision and ability. Nothing can be given in any other way than by experience. In my estimation this is where the fall into the material sublimated as a recontextualized storyline in all cultures.

As I speak of colour and tone as vibration we can paralell emotion into this paradigm as well. The excited wave spawns heights and pulls tight. The lacksadaisic bass waves pushes aggressively and stays low.

In summation to my ramblings what I am saying is that fear is a self cycling paradigm. we take false heights, say addiction: drugs, material possession, and they ascribe us no view and low aggressive bass waves, morose colours. We strive and frequency is generated and in truth moreso. We are afforded magnificent vistas and elevating tones and colours.

I try not to say anything by accident and most of this is nothing new to you, but I think it may make my meandering slightly more clear.

We already know, but we must experience or we cannot attain grace. We would have knowledge with no wisdom, no context.


Our divine souls may be perfect and eternal, but they cannot understand without antithesis. Thus we must fall until we are completely attuned to the highest places.

In simplest of terms, this is why the rich man will never taste heaven. It is not a quantity, but quality.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Once again, we are parallel in thought patterns. Even to the extent of the vibration/frequency equivalent of 'seeing' where the colors and heights and bass frequency tones, etc., are located within the human condition.

And your 3rd to last paragraph is exactly what another one of my saying's reads as: Knowledge is wisdom, without experience.
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I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Dionysian, what is your personal take on reincarnation and the possibility of people to 'see' past the veil? To KNOW that they have an eternal 'spirit'?

Would that be your Transhumanism? At least a section of it, I suppose. The only way to see past the emanations of death is to be able to see beyond it. The unknown of death is the emanation of darkness that keeps them bound to repeating the same patterns of behavior.
 Quoting: SickScent


I think death is what makes the game interesting. Fear is the chaos or potential that defines who we are, with no context of loss or failure; Where would the summit of achievement stand other than a plain that would not afford us further vision and ability. Nothing can be given in any other way than by experience. In my estimation this is where the fall into the material sublimated as a recontextualized storyline in all cultures.

As I speak of colour and tone as vibration we can paralell emotion into this paradigm as well. The excited wave spawns heights and pulls tight. The lacksadaisic bass waves pushes aggressively and stays low.

In summation to my ramblings what I am saying is that fear is a self cycling paradigm. we take false heights, say addiction: drugs, material possession, and they ascribe us no view and low aggressive bass waves, morose colours. We strive and frequency is generated and in truth moreso. We are afforded magnificent vistas and elevating tones and colours.

I try not to say anything by accident and most of this is nothing new to you, but I think it may make my meandering slightly more clear.

We already know, but we must experience or we cannot attain grace. We would have knowledge with no wisdom, no context.
Our divine souls may be perfect and eternal, but they cannot understand without antithesis. Thus we must fall until we are completely attuned to the highest places.


In simplest of terms, this is why the rich man will never taste heaven. It is not a quantity, but quality.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Once again, we are parallel in thought patterns. Even to the extent of the vibration/frequency equivalent of 'seeing' where the colors and heights and bass frequency tones, etc., are located within the human condition.

And your 2nd to last paragraph is exactly what another one of my saying's reads as: Knowledge is wisdom, without experience.
 Quoting: SickScent


Lol, when It's true it becomes Ours. This is why the recurrent theme of the god being consumed or torn apart to create. It's in our actions, even metaphorically.
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Dionysian, what is your personal take on reincarnation and the possibility of people to 'see' past the veil? To KNOW that they have an eternal 'spirit'?

Would that be your Transhumanism? At least a section of it, I suppose. The only way to see past the emanations of death is to be able to see beyond it. The unknown of death is the emanation of darkness that keeps them bound to repeating the same patterns of behavior.
 Quoting: SickScent


I think death is what makes the game interesting. Fear is the chaos or potential that defines who we are, with no context of loss or failure; Where would the summit of achievement stand other than a plain that would not afford us further vision and ability. Nothing can be given in any other way than by experience. In my estimation this is where the fall into the material sublimated as a recontextualized storyline in all cultures.

As I speak of colour and tone as vibration we can paralell emotion into this paradigm as well. The excited wave spawns heights and pulls tight. The lacksadaisic bass waves pushes aggressively and stays low.

In summation to my ramblings what I am saying is that fear is a self cycling paradigm. we take false heights, say addiction: drugs, material possession, and they ascribe us no view and low aggressive bass waves, morose colours. We strive and frequency is generated and in truth moreso. We are afforded magnificent vistas and elevating tones and colours.

I try not to say anything by accident and most of this is nothing new to you, but I think it may make my meandering slightly more clear.

We already know, but we must experience or we cannot attain grace. We would have knowledge with no wisdom, no context.
Our divine souls may be perfect and eternal, but they cannot understand without antithesis. Thus we must fall until we are completely attuned to the highest places.


In simplest of terms, this is why the rich man will never taste heaven. It is not a quantity, but quality.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Once again, we are parallel in thought patterns. Even to the extent of the vibration/frequency equivalent of 'seeing' where the colors and heights and bass frequency tones, etc., are located within the human condition.

And your 2nd to last paragraph is exactly what another one of my saying's reads as: Knowledge is wisdom, without experience.
 Quoting: SickScent


Lol, when It's true it becomes Ours. This is why the recurrent theme of the god being consumed or torn apart to create. It's in our actions, even metaphorically.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Another saying of mine: Truth is scalar in nature.
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I think death is what makes the game interesting. Fear is the chaos or potential that defines who we are, with no context of loss or failure; Where would the summit of achievement stand other than a plain that would not afford us further vision and ability. Nothing can be given in any other way than by experience. In my estimation this is where the fall into the material sublimated as a recontextualized storyline in all cultures.

As I speak of colour and tone as vibration we can paralell emotion into this paradigm as well. The excited wave spawns heights and pulls tight. The lacksadaisic bass waves pushes aggressively and stays low.

In summation to my ramblings what I am saying is that fear is a self cycling paradigm. we take false heights, say addiction: drugs, material possession, and they ascribe us no view and low aggressive bass waves, morose colours. We strive and frequency is generated and in truth moreso. We are afforded magnificent vistas and elevating tones and colours.

I try not to say anything by accident and most of this is nothing new to you, but I think it may make my meandering slightly more clear.

We already know, but we must experience or we cannot attain grace. We would have knowledge with no wisdom, no context.
Our divine souls may be perfect and eternal, but they cannot understand without antithesis. Thus we must fall until we are completely attuned to the highest places.


In simplest of terms, this is why the rich man will never taste heaven. It is not a quantity, but quality.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Once again, we are parallel in thought patterns. Even to the extent of the vibration/frequency equivalent of 'seeing' where the colors and heights and bass frequency tones, etc., are located within the human condition.

And your 2nd to last paragraph is exactly what another one of my saying's reads as: Knowledge is wisdom, without experience.
 Quoting: SickScent


Lol, when It's true it becomes Ours. This is why the recurrent theme of the god being consumed or torn apart to create. It's in our actions, even metaphorically.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Another saying of mine: Truth is scalar in nature.
 Quoting: SickScent


With eyes to hear and Ears to see.
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I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
 Quoting: dion


that`s good

with motive set tools for the artist arise

"the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally"
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I do agree that we pattern gods after ourselves and cannot see beginning without it's opposite. However, we are growing into our britches and haven't become too big for them yet.

Most of our death cults are mutable and as such we have ample opportunity to right wrongs. But the question still applies, which of the celestial or earthbound metaphors will reflect the light in the way to see past the emanations of death? Humanism? Trans Humanism? The persistent course of evolution? Accident?

Knowing there is no time is of itself the most freeing of endeavors, as you cannot waste it.

The true artist will die in the midst of their work and keep on creating.
 Quoting: dion


that`s good

with motive set tools for the artist arise

"the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally"
 Quoting: aether


Cheers, I'll wrap my head further around the Idea of the Ouroborous and chime in any 'time'.
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A pre work thunk.....

Higher frequency Wave forms and interruption in vibratory conciousness. Elevation of frequency and the arousal or skewing of resting patterns:

Delta wave 1-4 hz deep sleep
Theta 4-7 hz light
Alpha 8-13hz relaxation
Beta 13-40hz concentration

an interruption or raised frequency would be most apparent in deep cycles as there is the least deviation. Tonal and hue variation would suggest a higher pitch.

Cheers SS for the fuzzy plasmic thoughts

Elevation from a 3d form suggests spatial relation variance and as time space are interwoven concepts the ascendency of one is the summit of the other.

Shall we literally rise above and see eternity.

The Ouroborous and the circle re examined: Both the 2d and 3d constructs suggest an inability to see 'limitless' possibility. Either form obscures the totality of seeing the sum of potential by its form.

Picture yourself walking on the outer surface on the sphere or outside line of the 2d circle. In both circumstance the shape renders even the height of observation occluded from the outcome in an extended longtitudinal timeframe.

The difference in value of the 2d and 3d sphere is the sum of panoramic potential: In essence choice.

Things to mull while hammering
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>>in simple terms<<

now if only those were the only terms available then most of us would not be so lost. complications create friction so why bother? another conspiracy..


but I follow along anyway and sometimes things click, some not right away then other times not until I am following something totally unrelated. thats really weird, maybe syncronicity..


you mention C. Jung here ant there OP, I am reading as much of his work I can find freely available but sinces its all bits and pieces Im having trouble putting it together.

seems to be key knowledge to sorting out the mess but Im not sure if it can be used in a DIY way. do you or others here have any recomedations for practical study of Jungs work?


I have read elswhere from a member of a different forum "matrix traveler" that we exist in 2d only and 3d and above are synthetic creations of out 2d mind. very intresting theories from this one. worth a search, I havnt seen anything like it posted here.


thanks
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A pre work thunk.....

Higher frequency Wave forms and interruption in vibratory conciousness. Elevation of frequency and the arousal or skewing of resting patterns:

Delta wave 1-4 hz deep sleep
Theta 4-7 hz light
Alpha 8-13hz relaxation
Beta 13-40hz concentration

an interruption or raised frequency would be most apparent in deep cycles as there is the least deviation. Tonal and hue variation would suggest a higher pitch.

Cheers SS for the fuzzy plasmic thoughts

Elevation from a 3d form suggests spatial relation variance and as time space are interwoven concepts the ascendency of one is the summit of the other.

Shall we literally rise above and see eternity.

The Ouroborous and the circle re examined: Both the 2d and 3d constructs suggest an inability to see 'limitless' possibility. Either form obscures the totality of seeing the sum of potential by its form.


Picture yourself walking on the outer surface on the sphere or outside line of the 2d circle. In both circumstance the shape renders even the height of observation occluded from the outcome in an extended longtitudinal timeframe.

The difference in value of the 2d and 3d sphere is the sum of panoramic potential: In essence choice.

Things to mull while hammering
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


2 being the smallest number that ever exists = you (1) and all else(1)
with our self aware (intelligent) universe your ability to "see" (awareness) is dependent upon your relationship with all else (universe)
there are no mysteries but there always exist definitions (boundaries) dependent upon the condition of your relationship as in:
does your motive match that of your environments

energy = information

Environmental Energy - the Discovery of a new physical Truth: there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment.
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla
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A pre work thunk.....

Higher frequency Wave forms and interruption in vibratory conciousness. Elevation of frequency and the arousal or skewing of resting patterns:

Delta wave 1-4 hz deep sleep
Theta 4-7 hz light
Alpha 8-13hz relaxation
Beta 13-40hz concentration

an interruption or raised frequency would be most apparent in deep cycles as there is the least deviation. Tonal and hue variation would suggest a higher pitch.

Cheers SS for the fuzzy plasmic thoughts

Elevation from a 3d form suggests spatial relation variance and as time space are interwoven concepts the ascendency of one is the summit of the other.

Shall we literally rise above and see eternity.

The Ouroborous and the circle re examined: Both the 2d and 3d constructs suggest an inability to see 'limitless' possibility. Either form obscures the totality of seeing the sum of potential by its form.

Picture yourself walking on the outer surface on the sphere or outside line of the 2d circle. In both circumstance the shape renders even the height of observation occluded from the outcome in an extended longtitudinal timeframe.

The difference in value of the 2d and 3d sphere is the sum of panoramic potential: In essence choice.

Things to mull while hammering
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Thread: The Klein Sphere Universe
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A pre work thunk.....

Higher frequency Wave forms and interruption in vibratory conciousness. Elevation of frequency and the arousal or skewing of resting patterns:

Delta wave 1-4 hz deep sleep
Theta 4-7 hz light
Alpha 8-13hz relaxation
Beta 13-40hz concentration

an interruption or raised frequency would be most apparent in deep cycles as there is the least deviation. Tonal and hue variation would suggest a higher pitch.

Cheers SS for the fuzzy plasmic thoughts

Elevation from a 3d form suggests spatial relation variance and as time space are interwoven concepts the ascendency of one is the summit of the other.

Shall we literally rise above and see eternity.

The Ouroborous and the circle re examined: Both the 2d and 3d constructs suggest an inability to see 'limitless' possibility. Either form obscures the totality of seeing the sum of potential by its form.

Picture yourself walking on the outer surface on the sphere or outside line of the 2d circle. In both circumstance the shape renders even the height of observation occluded from the outcome in an extended longtitudinal timeframe.

The difference in value of the 2d and 3d sphere is the sum of panoramic potential: In essence choice.

Things to mull while hammering
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Thread: The Klein Sphere Universe
 Quoting: SickScent


1rof1

your ducking eternity

Remember, the Universe is a Conscious Lifeform.

In the beginning (before this version) both spatial verses were Infinite and the Conscious Being was alone and only ONE Singularity, ONE Black Hole, connected the two spatial verses. IT asked a question: Life? From there, IT figured out that If IT turned itself (the singularity) inside-out and outside-in, IT could have Children and when IT turned itself inside-out and outside-in, IT finited itself and has been growing ever since and has an Infinite Nothingness to grow into, what was once itself.

That is how the Klein Sphere was formed, that now defines the Universe/God/Source.
 Quoting: sickscent


the bible, mainstream science and other approx 4000 year old texts of the "west" (india inclusive) assume there is a beginning of varying age but most of the people on the other side of our planet (Chinese ect.) are not burdened with that thought

since man left our magnetosphere he has discovered that our universe does not require a beginning to exist and does not require an outside of it`self energy/power source to energize it`s existence either

it is infinite of scale and this is a glimpse of current thinking:

post cern thought arising:

Let us take it as a logical assumption that the Universe is infinite in size. This means that the observable universe is only an infinitesimally small fraction of the Universe and the "aether" causes a sort of "photonic horizon" that prevents us from seeing further out with known observational techniques.

Given this, we must recognize that there is a "field of mass" and "energy sources" outside the horizon of the Universe that is "dark" to our sensors. It is also likely that our entire observable field of view is part of an even larger Flux Tube embedded in an even larger universe and that the effects of these interactions, as of yet to be fully explored, should be considered.

Given the possibility that our observable Universe is but an infinitesimal fraction of the infinite Universe, there is plenty of sources of influence "out there" that we have yet to observe.
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


life post big bang (beginning) is infinitely easier upon awareness and far less stressful of experience

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