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New Zealand Introduces $50,000 Fine For Drinking Camomile Tea

 
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02/12/2012 12:52 PM
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They always try this shit in NZ to test the waters and fine-tune the tyranny.

NZ gov is full of transnationalist Socialists, and every big nanny state brain fart is always applied from Wellington first.

I can't believe you can still have guns in NZ. This Agenda 21 bullshit is going to start getting people out practicing, if you know what I mean.
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02/12/2012 12:53 PM
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Hell, I live in NZ and quite happily administer my own ahem herbal remedies.

Fuck TPTB. They don't have long anyway.
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02/12/2012 12:54 PM
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Isn't New Zealands PM a "you-know-what?"

Hrmmm, big surprise.
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02/12/2012 12:55 PM
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I'm not so sure:

" This section does not apply to—
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(a) any natural health product that is made by a practitioner to be administered to a particular person after being requested by or on behalf of that person to use the practitioner's own judgement as to the treatment required "

This is scattered throughout the whole bill in each section that would otherwise deny your right to make this.

So if someone asks you to make them chamomile then it's cool; you just can't make chamomile and 'push' it.

lol 'pushing' chamomile.
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We're going to have to either mangle the language to keep up with this bullshit, or shut down the bullshit.
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02/12/2012 12:56 PM
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Regulations are made to be broken.

There's so much overregulation taht countries no longer have the means for vigilance and enforcement. The financial crisis just adds to the chaos.

It may seem paradoxical but the more laws are passe the freer you are do what you want without being bothered by authority.
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02/12/2012 12:57 PM
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Man, they sure are cracking the whip down under.

Just yesterday it was posted that in Australia you can no longer fly without going through one of the full body xray scanners.

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02/12/2012 01:05 PM
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Hell, I live in NZ and quite happily administer my own ahem herbal remedies.

Fuck TPTB. They don't have long anyway.
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clappa
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02/12/2012 01:08 PM
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The world is going crazy , this is just insane !
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02/12/2012 01:12 PM
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China doesn't sound that bad anymore does it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511955


Oh the irony.

At this rate NO for those not holding positions of authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 573297


Do you want more irony? I'm in Brazil and I am drinking my camomile tea right now
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511955


I grew up in Brazil and have Brazilian citizenship, and lately I think often of returning

You know, back in the old days of the dictatorship and wild inflation, I remember my father's publisher telling us an excellent joke about Brazilian hell

I think this joke is more true today than ever

It goes like this:

There's a deviant who dies, and immediately goes to hell, but on arriving at hell he discovers that each country has it's own regional hell

Being a Brazilian (cira 1980, they thought the US was efficient, lol) he says: "well, if I'm going to go to hell, I might as well go to the most efficient, well run hell - I'll go the American hell"

Upon arrival at Hell USA, a clean cut young mormon greets him and says:

"Welcome to hell USA! Here is our schedule:

From 12.01 am to 10 am, you will be roasted in an oven at 1000 C and you will experience the torments of the damned as the flesh roasts off your bones.

From 10.01 am to 5pm, you will be lashed without mercy by a dozen demons who will strip whatever meat is left and you will beg for mercy, but none will be given.

Then from 5.01 PM to midnight, you will be placed in a freezer colder than antarctica and you will wish you were dead, but your mind will be awake even as your body is frozen to immobility"

At that point, you are placed back in the ovens and the routine continues, so on and on, for eternity.

Any questions?

The Brazilian gulps and thinks, well maybe I'll try a less efficient hell, let me go to the Italian hell.

Well, he soon discovers that with the exception of the accent, ALL the hells are identical in cruelty and punishment

At that point he says..."If I'm going to go to hell, I might as well go the Brazilian hell and be with my own people"

However, on arriving at the gate of the Brazilian hell, he finds an enormous line to get in. "Typical Brazilian third world BS he thinks..." But then he notices there are Brits, Americans, Japanese and even Swiss deviants on line to get into the Brazilian hell

He starts poking at the man ahead of him on line: "Eh, my friend, why so many people trying to get into Brazilian hell?"

The guy ahead of him gets irritated, but finally says:

OKAY OKAY, but DON'T TELL ANYONE ELSE! It goes like this

The oven? It's been broken for 30 years, it only goes up to about 35C and the Brazilians sit inside getting a tan and playing guitar.

The dozen devils giving lashings? Well, they got a 2nd job playing football for the English hell. They just show up, sign their card, and leave. Someone smuggled in a TV so they sit around watching novelas

The guy who imported the refrigerator got the budget for a full sized unit, but only spent on a mini-cube he bought from his cousin, big enough to hold some choppes. He left for Miami years ago, hasn't been heard from, so it's a party every night

AND PLEASE don't tell anyone else about Brazilian hell, otherwise one of these days some smart ass might actually try and "fix it"..
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02/12/2012 01:16 PM
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They always try this shit in NZ to test the waters and fine-tune the tyranny.

NZ gov is full of transnationalist Socialists, and every big nanny state brain fart is always applied from Wellington first.

I can't believe you can still have guns in NZ. This Agenda 21 bullshit is going to start getting people out practicing, if you know what I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302349


They try it out in NZ because its a tiny population, and often news out of NZ doesn't get too far beyond its borders unless someone like OP brings our attention to it

I know NZ citizens are good people, but it's precisely bc I've been tracking this for years that I'm always shocked by Americans or Brits who think they're running away from the NWO and leave the US or UK

...and move to New Zealand

DOH...out of the frying pan, into the fire guys

Why not the Philippines or back country of Thailand?

All the commonwealth nations are going the same Agenda 21 NWO way. Crap and more crap on the menu for 2012 - 2020 and as far as the eye can see...
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02/12/2012 01:23 PM
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Regulations are made to be broken.

There's so much overregulation taht countries no longer have the means for vigilance and enforcement. The financial crisis just adds to the chaos.

It may seem paradoxical but the more laws are passe the freer you are do what you want without being bothered by authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306052



^^^ THIS ^^^

As governments runs out of money, who does the enforcing?

If only fellow citizens refuse to comply to be stasi spies for the government, it won't happen

Ask how many laws are being enforced in Greece right now?

No doubt, that is precisely what is driving the control freaks at the ECB crazy...still they don't realize that the more they push for enforcement and the more minute laws they pass the harder it will be to find the budget to enforce them all
~Una~

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02/12/2012 01:28 PM
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People dont realize that the Same Law has been passed in Canada and the US as well.

They just havent been enforcing it yet.

DO YOUR RESEARCH
 Quoting: whiskey2012


indeed it has.. and actually, they would have a lot of trouble enforcing that here in NZ. The majority of kiwi's will ignore it and the police are highly unlikely to enforce it.
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02/12/2012 01:28 PM
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It makes it illegal without a licence to prepare, share or administer anything (that isn’t presented as “food”) that’s made from plants, vitamins, minerals or anything else natural and may have any of the following material health benefits:-

The maintenance or promotion of health or wellness; nutritional support; vitamin or mineral supplementation; affecting or maintaining the structure or function of the body; effective treatment of any self-diagnosed or self-managed condition.

Now, go back and read that again!

You’ll be liable for a $50,000 fine for doing any of the above, even for yourself. No more home-grown camomile tea to make you sleep better. No more practising of traditional Maori medicine without a government ticket, which can be denied or revoked. No more home-made manuka oil to put on your cuts. No more using your granny’s remedies from the herb garden. None of this without permission, fees and rules, or you face massive fines and possibly jail. Sound familiar?

[link to nzfoodsecurity.org]
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haven't herd that one.
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02/12/2012 01:29 PM
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More and more people now are starting to understand my logic for moving to a place (South America) where nonsense like this has ZERO chance of being put into works....

People would be like "que?!?!? jajajajajajajaja"

Uruguay.. a place people that still want to be free need to look into relocating to asap.
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What if you don't speak Spanish?
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02/12/2012 01:29 PM
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Isn't New Zealands PM a "you-know-what?"

Hrmmm, big surprise.
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a cunt.
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02/12/2012 01:30 PM
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too bad

well you could come to the usa and live
we have plenty camomile tea here
i just bought a box the other day
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02/12/2012 01:31 PM
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They always try this shit in NZ to test the waters and fine-tune the tyranny.

NZ gov is full of transnationalist Socialists, and every big nanny state brain fart is always applied from Wellington first.

I can't believe you can still have guns in NZ. This Agenda 21 bullshit is going to start getting people out practicing, if you know what I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302349


They try it out in NZ because its a tiny population, and often news out of NZ doesn't get too far beyond its borders unless someone like OP brings our attention to it

I know NZ citizens are good people, but it's precisely bc I've been tracking this for years that I'm always shocked by Americans or Brits who think they're running away from the NWO and leave the US or UK

...and move to New Zealand

DOH...out of the frying pan, into the fire guys

Why not the Philippines or back country of Thailand?

All the commonwealth nations are going the same Agenda 21 NWO way. Crap and more crap on the menu for 2012 - 2020 and as far as the eye can see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349914


i have always wondered why new zealand was a key testing area. and then james cameron buys almost 3 thousand acres of land there? after all the earthquakes? it makes no sense.
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02/12/2012 01:31 PM
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it's all fucked up...

Enjoy the ride... (sarcastic)
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02/12/2012 01:34 PM
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They always try this shit in NZ to test the waters and fine-tune the tyranny.

NZ gov is full of transnationalist Socialists, and every big nanny state brain fart is always applied from Wellington first.

I can't believe you can still have guns in NZ. This Agenda 21 bullshit is going to start getting people out practicing, if you know what I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302349


They try it out in NZ because its a tiny population, and often news out of NZ doesn't get too far beyond its borders unless someone like OP brings our attention to it

I know NZ citizens are good people, but it's precisely bc I've been tracking this for years that I'm always shocked by Americans or Brits who think they're running away from the NWO and leave the US or UK

...and move to New Zealand

DOH...out of the frying pan, into the fire guys

Why not the Philippines or back country of Thailand?

All the commonwealth nations are going the same Agenda 21 NWO way. Crap and more crap on the menu for 2012 - 2020 and as far as the eye can see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349914


i have always wondered why new zealand was a key testing area. and then james cameron buys almost 3 thousand acres of land there? after all the earthquakes? it makes no sense.
 Quoting: pink cat




i don't think he will live in the Earthquake zone.
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02/12/2012 01:35 PM
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Will they ban Peter Rabbit for promoting drug use?
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02/12/2012 01:37 PM
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unbelievable...
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02/12/2012 01:38 PM
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unbelievable...
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just watched the news, nothing there about tea, must be a joke.
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02/12/2012 01:47 PM
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Idiots and Idiotic cowards,

natural law will be illegal.

from chaos order, new world order, where assholes control your thoughts, food, bowel movement, etc.

and because you are stupid and coward and weak you deserve it all.

Yes, I called YOU stupid and coward and weak, now roll over and present your posterior.
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02/12/2012 01:55 PM
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Idiots and Idiotic cowards,

natural law will be illegal.

from chaos order, new world order, where assholes control your thoughts, food, bowel movement, etc.

and because you are stupid and coward and weak you deserve it all.

Yes, I called YOU stupid and coward and weak, now roll over and present your posterior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10638837






i will not become a spoke in the wheel.
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02/12/2012 02:12 PM
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TPTB are making it too obvious over there. The more ridiculous it gets, the more people will awaken. :)
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I have had that thought for a very long time, I hope someday soon it will be true.
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Oh it's happening! It's not very visible still, but the tip of the iceberg is about to emerge. :)
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02/12/2012 02:13 PM
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Sheep 4 brains over there
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02/12/2012 02:16 PM
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It makes it illegal without a licence to prepare, share or administer anything (that isn’t presented as “food”) that’s made from plants, vitamins, minerals or anything else natural and may have any of the following material health benefits:-

The maintenance or promotion of health or wellness; nutritional support; vitamin or mineral supplementation; affecting or maintaining the structure or function of the body; effective treatment of any self-diagnosed or self-managed condition.

Now, go back and read that again!

You’ll be liable for a $50,000 fine for doing any of the above, even for yourself. No more home-grown camomile tea to make you sleep better. No more practising of traditional Maori medicine without a government ticket, which can be denied or revoked. No more home-made manuka oil to put on your cuts. No more using your granny’s remedies from the herb garden. None of this without permission, fees and rules, or you face massive fines and possibly jail. Sound familiar?

[link to nzfoodsecurity.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6897354


When they outlawed wood burning stoves and fireplaces on "air quality" type of grounds / laws....the tyranny was complete over there.

This just adds insult to injury.


Given the chance....Obama and the EPA / FDA would try to pull the same crap over here.
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02/12/2012 02:16 PM
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Idiots and Idiotic cowards,

natural law will be illegal.

from chaos order, new world order, where assholes control your thoughts, food, bowel movement, etc.

and because you are stupid and coward and weak you deserve it all.

Yes, I called YOU stupid and coward and weak, now roll over and present your posterior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10638837


If you become a whistle blower or out spoken about things like this you run the risk of ending up on a gang stalking list and having your whole life ruined.

I know because it has happened to me here in N.Z.

To be honest I think those that keep there mouths shut are the smart ones. Don't draw attention to yourself from TPTB they will bite back.

You can still refuse to spy on your neighbors etc BUT it's wise NOT to stick you neck out unless of course you don't mind having it chopped off completely.

I think boycotting in silence is a far wiser move.
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02/12/2012 02:21 PM
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Idiots and Idiotic cowards,

natural law will be illegal.

from chaos order, new world order, where assholes control your thoughts, food, bowel movement, etc.

and because you are stupid and coward and weak you deserve it all.

Yes, I called YOU stupid and coward and weak, now roll over and present your posterior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10638837


If you become a whistle blower or out spoken about things like this you run the risk of ending up on a gang stalking list and having your whole life ruined.

I know because it has happened to me here in N.Z.

To be honest I think those that keep there mouths shut are the smart ones. Don't draw attention to yourself from TPTB they will bite back.

You can still refuse to spy on your neighbors etc BUT it's wise NOT to stick you neck out unless of course you don't mind having it chopped off completely.

I think boycotting in silence is a far wiser move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 573297


True
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02/12/2012 02:23 PM
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australia and nz will be the new home of the power mongers
soon ie TPTB.

nothern hemisphere will be destroyed and the southern well
controlled and the new world power.





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