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Anders (OP) User ID: 39175 ![]() 11/04/2005 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scapegoating Rocco Martino for the forgeries is absurd. He´s an old P-2 boy who was handed the forgeries and tried to sell them to one of Berlusconi´s fake reporters- he owns the media. It doesn´t matter whether this functionary or the fake journalist gave the documents to the US Embassy in Rome. They got there and they didn´t produce themselves. EVERYONE KNOWS THE PLOT. It was the Chalabi gang , all on the payroll of the PR firm that created this "THING", the Iraqi National Congress. Plus two old Iran Contra Brigands who worked together in Rome for the CIA in the late 70´s, both of whom had ties to SISMI. When word of the Italian Parliamentary report was leaked , the Bushitters got scared. They asked Silvio "P-2" Berlusconi "Would you PLEASE produce a report and deep-six the other report." Now Congress ,forced by public pressure to investigate the Niger "mystery", will rehash the "Rocco" story and pronounce "CASE CLOSED." The whole Niger Bunch are "JINSA" cutouts. They´re the Untouchables , and our "Elliot Ness" ain´t touching ´em . The only part of the Rozen piece that I believe has merit is the statement claiming "FITZY-BOY" has never requested a copy of the forgeries and has no interest in pursuing the case. What part of Fitzgerald´s statement " I have no interest in refighting the war " do some well-intentioned and very courageous SF -based bloggers fail to comprehend. ? 24 months and "Ness" is still on the what "What Karl told Matt" case. Our men are dying 4-5 per day and THIS is what we get. I wanted to believe in this guy too , but he has had ample time to show he´s serious. A lot of these Ex-CIA guys yanked our crank on what this guy was doing and it permeated into the media. All those Paens to his virginal purity printed in the media should have been the tip off that a psy-op was in progress. Few feel worse than me that this farce unfolded and I , using my heart rather my brain, too some degree, fell for it. I think that the more plausible bullshit was intended for well educated audiences while morons were fed total insanity through web sites that we are all now aware of. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5250 ![]() 11/04/2005 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to godlikeproductions.com] In recent weeks, State Department investigators have seized records from the Broadcasting Board of Governors, officials said. They have shared some material with the CPB inspector-general, including e-mail traffic between Tomlinson and senior White House officials, including Karl Rove. |
Parsingman User ID: 20614 ![]() 11/04/2005 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This would be the meat of the issue. Intent is not needed. It´s the "reasonable expectation". Fitzgerald isn´t that stupid. This is one BIG reason why we are just watching a show. "When the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to treat everything as if it were a nail." -- Abraham Maslow |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39280 ![]() 11/04/2005 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good writing, Anders. I have felt for some time that the investigation didn´t go high enough, deep enough, or wide enough to put the criminals behind bars. The intent and will to clean house just wasn´t/isn´t too apparent. For one thing, Fitgerald worked closely with Chertoff during the investigation of the first attempt to bring down the Towers. For the second thing, Bush appointed him to the position. For the third thing, nobody rises to prominence without a nod from TPTB. (You have to be "their man".) The fourth reason is the knowledge that all of the above are interconnected. . |
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Anders (OP) User ID: 39175 ![]() 11/04/2005 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup i have very mixed thoughts on all this now |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 260 ![]() 11/05/2005 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anders, as usual, is full of crap. He is a deliberate liar. Joe Wilson: Lying About Iraqi Uranium Special from Hawaii Free Press By Andrew Walden, 11/3/2005 11:49:46 AM MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Oct 24., 2005, said it best: “Bush is now fighting a war on two fronts.” Iraqi voters are once more dealing a sharp blow to al-Qaeda’s war on America and the parallel war on Bush being waged by the Democrat Party and the Democrat media. Al-Qaeda is waging war by continuing to bomb Iraqi civilians. Democrats are trying to fight with a battle plan based on the delusion that Iraq is Vietnam, Bush is Nixon and Watergate must be there somewhere. Feeling if they turn over enough rocks they will find the one labeled “impeachment,” on Oct. 28 Democrats hailed the indictment of White House aide Scooter Libby on charges of lying to a grand jury. The grand jury did not charge anyone for “outing” Valerie Plame the CIA analyst who connived to get her Kerry-supporter husband assigned to investigate Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium in Niger, Africa. This may be due to the fact that she was not a secret agent and therefore revealing her name to the media is not a crime. Her identity has been known to the Cubans and even was discovered by the Soviets. That is why she was at a desk job instead of being in the field. Libby apparently faces charges for not testifying: “I did it. It is not a crime. I am proud of it.” The real Iraq scandal is the lies being told by Democrats, with Plame´s husband Joe Wilson leading the way, in an effort to “get Bush” without regard for their effect on our troops in combat and al-Qaeda’s perception that Americans are “weak and decadent infidels.” According to a July 10, 2004, Washington Post article on the Senate Intelligence Committee findings about Wilson´s investigatory trip to Niger, Africa, unanimously agreed by all committee senators, including Democrats, “The panel found that Wilson’s report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson’s assertions and even the government’s previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush’s January 2003 State of the Union address.” Anti-American war protesters chant “Bush lied—thousands died.” But the real liar is self-described “child of the ‘60s,” Joe Wilson, who falsely claims his trip to Niger proves wrong Bush’s “16 words” in the January, 2003 State of the Union address: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” Missing from the media frenzy is a simple fact. Bush’s words are true today and they were true then. The British government still stands by its assessment that Iraq was attempting to purchase uranium oxide in Niger. That assessment was first made public in a September, 2002 dossier about which the BBC reported, “Britain’ s dossier on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction says that Saddam Hussein tried to get “significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” As British Prime Minister Tony Blair said on July 14, 2004 in response to the Butler Inquiry into pre-war Iraq intelligence, “This is now the fourth exhaustive inquiry that has dealt with this issue. This report, like the Hutton inquiry, like the report of the ISC before it and of the FAC before that, has found the same thing. No-one lied. No-one made up the intelligence. No-one inserted things into the dossier against the advice of the intelligence services.” According to the Senate Intelligence Committee, in the eyes of CIA analysts, Joe Wilson’s own debriefing report upon returning from Niger backs this up as well. In March, 2003, when U.S. tanks rolled into Iraq, 500 tons of yellow cake uranium was found at the Iraqi nuclear research center of al-Tuwaitha. This included 1.8 tons of partly enriched uranium. On June 23, 2004, the U.S. military, working with the U.S. Department of Energy removed this material to the US where is held at an unnamed Department of Energy facility. As U.S. Marine Lt General James Conway says in the October Proceedings magazine: “The insurgents realize full well the only chance they have of defeating the U.S. military is to weaken the will of the American population ... .” This al-Qaeda goal corresponds completely with techniques being used by Democrats who still want to avenge Al Gore’s 2000 loss. That is why the simple facts contained in this article are so difficult to find anywhere in the media. |
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