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Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?

 
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Judging from the youth that inhabit this rock, this should have been allowed 20 years ago.
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Well... in world where everything is relative, there is no difference between sexes anymore, the line of what is a human and what is not also can be pushed as needed....

Wicked times we live in.
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Well said.
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Did any of you retards actually read the article? They are not saying that this is what should be done, they are posing a moral question and using reason and logic to answer it.

Being able to think of these questions and debate them are what stands us apart from the monkeys. Just because you don't agree with it, there is no need to be juvenile about it. Life is not some miracle, it is a chemical reaction.

Until humans break free from the whole "life is a miracle from god" bollox we will never realise our true potential,
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No what they are doing is planting the seed.

[link to cuttingedge.org]

It's called conditioning. Ignorants like you will then start to think "hmm this is a pretty good idea" and then you start infanticide, infanticide is just the next step on the agenda, just like euthanasia is being pushed and then the next step is involuntary euthanasia where you like Hitler and his people start murdering the disabled, and then it goes further with political enemies and races.

Nothing new here, it's the same old playbook. I'm surprised to find people on a Conspiracy site that is not even aware of how this thing operates, are you a noob-moran? Why are you at this site if you don't even grasp the basics of the plan?

Trin must have been slacking off.
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
and there in lies your problem.

You cannot comprehend that sometimes it is torture to allow something to continue to live. A baby born with severe disabilities, that will never read or write or hear or see. It would be torture for them, for their families and it is not "living". But for some reason because there is this holier than thou attitude to live it is deemed better to torture many than end the life of one.
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Not true, I have a friend whose child is 39 and she is just like a newborn, but she smiles, laughs, and is probably happier then us.
 Quoting: Sickandtired 1419023


This! My brother that passed away on New Years Day had cerebral palsy. He couldn't walk, talk, limited movement, almost totally blind (could see very little - bright lights for example), only thing he had was his hearing. Had to be fed by a feeding tube. Docs told my parents he'd be lucky to live to age 5 - he was 26 when he passed. His life was MISERABLE - at least to you or I it would have been. 9 surgeries, countless hours of physical therapy, ect., ect. But you know what? He was the HAPPIEST person in the world...always smiling....the simplest things could make him smile. He smiled at the sound of his nephews (my boys) laughing and playing...he smiled at the sight of the lights on the xmas tree every year. He smiled when he woudl sit on the porch in the summer and the sun was shining. The smallest things that most people take for granted.

No one has the right to judge is a life is "worth it" or not.
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My cousin is 13 and has cerebral palsy. I see in him what most of us are chasing after: happiness and simplicity. I think this is why others feel jealous of these individuals and attempt to discredit them. Those that can not handle the truth.
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
They're arguing that there is no difference between a fetus and a newborn infant...
 Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake


Yes, and that's why the rational position has always been to outlaw late term abortions.

...and therefore we should be morally allowed to do away with our new-born children.
 Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake


That conclusion of course does not follow so there must be some extra hocus pocus they are bringing to the argument.

It's sad that so many of you have been brain damaged and simply can't understand what I'm stating here.
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Get off your moral high horse. All this moral fluff is creeping me out...
Every time you shop at the supermarket, you are living off the death and repression of sentient beings that you share a common heritage with.
Oops, I forgot it's currently not posh to contradict ones religious narcissism.
Forgive me for my transgression...
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Like I said before

yesterday it was an unborn baby

today it is a newborn baby

soon they will go after the rest of us

Soilent green is here
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And it plays out just like it did during the test run in Socialist Germany:
[link to historyplace.com]
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With so many shills coming to this thread it's really frightening to realize that the extermination of humanity is now one of the talking points.
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02/29/2012 07:07 PM
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
Ask your favorite retard Republican, Rick Santorum. He knows all. Derp!

Watch the Movie My Left Foot. Do you seriously think that man should have been put down like a dog because of the way he was born? and he became a world famous artist,too! Assholes! You don't kill children! How fucking hard is it to figure out?
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Get off your moral high horse. All this moral fluff is creeping me out...
Every time you shop at the supermarket, you are living off the death and repression of sentient beings that you share a common heritage with.
Oops, I forgot it's currently not posh to contradict ones religious narcissism.
Forgive me for my transgression...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8392006


In other words, your saying if you were my child I had the right to give you life in order for your foolish comments to appear on this website.

It comes down to personal resonsiblity and no ONE wants to be responsible for themselves, which is inherently selfish. You do not even need to debate about religion on this one. Logic would conclude that you don't have a baby if you cannot accept the consequences. End of discussion.
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And it plays out just like it did during the test run in Socialist Germany:
[link to historyplace.com]
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Nazi Germany was the test run. The program being developed now will be exported world wide.
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
Get off your moral high horse. All this moral fluff is creeping me out...
Every time you shop at the supermarket, you are living off the death and repression of sentient beings that you share a common heritage with.
Oops, I forgot it's currently not posh to contradict ones religious narcissism.
Forgive me for my transgression...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8392006


In other words, your saying if you were my child I had the right to give you life in order for your foolish comments to appear on this website.

It comes down to personal resonsiblity and no ONE wants to be responsible for themselves, which is inherently selfish. You do not even need to debate about religion on this one. Logic would conclude that you don't have a baby if you cannot accept the consequences. End of discussion.
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One more thing to add. If you have an abortion accept the CONSEQUENCES. Let that be persecution by others, guilt (unless you are a pyschopath) and any other universal consequence we have yet to explain.
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
A group of medical ethicists at Oxford University seem to think so.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

They're arguing that there is no difference between a fetus and a newborn infant and therefore we should be morally allowed to do away with our new-born children.

This is infuriating, it's infuriating that such a thing was even suggested!
Supposed "intellectuals" arguing in favour of killing young infants, this is what we've come to, we've allowed abortion to become socially acceptable and as a result the lives of young children are now devalued and worthless!
 Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake


.. I am pro-choice .. for me pro-life .. but if there is truth in that .. it is not right .. the parent should have to do it themselves with their bare hands freaking sickos ..
 Quoting: rosie80


So how many babies have you and your friends chosen to kill?
You do know you will reap death because you've sown death?
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02/29/2012 07:12 PM
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Well, they are right in the fact that this is no different then abortion. BOth are abominations, but because we can't see the baby inside the mother's womb, it is okay. That's why it kills me when I see these pro-death freaks get all worked up over a girl who has a baby and throws it in a trashcan.
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hf
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only nibiru can do that!
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The ONLY real reason I can think of for honestly allowing Abortion, IF the child inherited insanity traits. Sorry, but we already have enough crazies on this forum.
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The ONLY real reason I can think of for honestly allowing Abortion, IF the child inherited insanity traits. Sorry, but we already have enough crazies on this forum.
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Psychopathic traits would make a better choice, as there is no cure for it, but you would not find out until it is too late.
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
No!!!!

You have to wait until they're teenagers!
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Well I have to admit that teenagers are a vivid example of WHY some animals eat their youngrockon
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
And it plays out just like it did during the test run in Socialist Germany:
[link to historyplace.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11687504


Nazi Germany was the test run. The program being developed now will be exported world wide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11172800


Yes I see it all over the place, the Luciferians are pushing euthanasia all over the place, abortion is practiced on many places and in places where it's illegal the neighboring countries bring in the loose women that wants their children murdered and let them murder their baby there.

Add all the blatant death propaganda from Hollyweird, and all the blatant death propaganda from the music industry.

Add the garbage they indoctrinate at school, the nihilism and moral relativism served all over the place.

Mindless drones all over the place, even in this thread, people that deserve nothing more than eternal hellfire.

Surely this is the end times, well the end for them that is, they will wax worse and worse but sooner or later they will all run off the cliff and plunge straight into hell.

And in the third world countries you don't even need to do much propaganda, they already do most of this stuff just that they are so crap at organizing they can't get off the bigger kills.
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More of the visable evil that is liberalism.

Fucking disgusting.
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
The worst thing about this is that we allow a small, minority group to decide the morality of any issue. Choose one and run with it.

So, the select membership has already decided that children inside the womb may killed and discarded. Now this. Apparently most school districts employ those that prey on children. How much can you tolerate? We are dictated our medical care, what our children our taught in public schools. The list is endless. Our we voiceless? Do we not vote? Why are we still enduring the aberation of society and calling it "alternate","choices", "toleration, etc.

What does this say about us collectively? Are we so weak and frightened to stand up for our beliefs?

So my point is, why are we not defending those that are the weakest, most fragile in our society and allowing some strange and perhaps evil group of people to decide what we should allow and not allow?
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02/29/2012 07:28 PM
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it is immoral. No doubt about it. Next they'll want to kill old people, cripples and people with medical problems.
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“fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.

Liberals. that says it all.
Nothing but a bunch of criminals trying to justify and profit from crime. They will probably experiment on the newborns or sell the body parts.
In the early 1900's this same mentality experimented on, crippled and murdered thousands of people.
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End times. Everyone will turn against one another. Nation against nation, nationality against nationality, parent against child, child against parent.
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02/29/2012 07:41 PM
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Next time a guy wants a woman to swallow, he's actually killing his own kids. Think about that one!
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Yes, up until age 3 they should be able to kill their kids, but they gotta do it by hand. with the child conscious and aware.
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Score for 1 for humanity, 0 for this retarded mass of humanity we like to call society.
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Score for 1 for humanity, 0 for this retarded mass of humanity we like to call society.
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That is, this article will actually hurt 'pro-choice' crowd... What a disgusting name. Like calling rapists power deprived
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
and there in lies your problem.

You cannot comprehend that sometimes it is torture to allow something to continue to live. A baby born with severe disabilities, that will never read or write or hear or see. It would be torture for them, for their families and it is not "living". But for some reason because there is this holier than thou attitude to live it is deemed better to torture many than end the life of one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4873063


Not true, I have a friend whose child is 39 and she is just like a newborn, but she smiles, laughs, and is probably happier then us.
 Quoting: Sickandtired 1419023


This! My brother that passed away on New Years Day had cerebral palsy. He couldn't walk, talk, limited movement, almost totally blind (could see very little - bright lights for example), only thing he had was his hearing. Had to be fed by a feeding tube. Docs told my parents he'd be lucky to live to age 5 - he was 26 when he passed. His life was MISERABLE - at least to you or I it would have been. 9 surgeries, countless hours of physical therapy, ect., ect. But you know what? He was the HAPPIEST person in the world...always smiling....the simplest things could make him smile. He smiled at the sound of his nephews (my boys) laughing and playing...he smiled at the sight of the lights on the xmas tree every year. He smiled when he woudl sit on the porch in the summer and the sun was shining. The smallest things that most people take for granted.

No one has the right to judge is a life is "worth it" or not.
 Quoting: amywood71605


My cousin is 13 and has cerebral palsy. I see in him what most of us are chasing after: happiness and simplicity. I think this is why others feel jealous of these individuals and attempt to discredit them. Those that can not handle the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11608383

This is touching

God bless your brother

these are angels

He now has a great body in heaven !
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Re: Should parents be allowed kill their newborn babies?
A group of medical ethicists at Oxford University seem to think so.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

They're arguing that there is no difference between a fetus and a newborn infant and therefore we should be morally allowed to do away with our new-born children.

This is infuriating, it's infuriating that such a thing was even suggested!
Supposed "intellectuals" arguing in favour of killing young infants, this is what we've come to, we've allowed abortion to become socially acceptable and as a result the lives of young children are now devalued and worthless!
 Quoting: Stocking Eats Cake


ethicists, ethicists ...... who are these morons!





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