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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11293621 United States 03/01/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pray that you / i are counted worthy to escape these things that are soon to be upon us. 1 Thess. 4 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11735463 Believers in the Elohiym/God of Israel are not to keep silent, Nor give YHWH rest day or night until He makes Jerusalem a praise in all the earth. YHWH eyes are always upon her, Yerushalayim is the city of the Great King, the place YHWH put His name, It is where Yeshua will teach the nations the Torah during the millenium Isaiah 2:3 Including those who were redeemed by grace, who will perish in the Great Tribulation for lack of knowledge, the foolish virgins who are running out of oil, who will not reign with Him as priests in His Kingdom, because they refused the knowledge contained in His Great Precepts forever settled in heaven, given in the Torah Hosea 4:6, Matthew 5:19 Watch and Pray that you may be accounted worthy to escape these things and to stand before the Son of Man as did the fathers in the wilderness, when satan is cast to the earth having a short time, 1260 days to make war against the saints and is prevailing against them until he is destroyed by YESHUA's coming in Glory... Rev 12:6, Ezekiel 20:33-38 The wise virgins will have gone into the Wilderness, being kept out of the hour of trial that is coming upon the whole earth, Within one of the assemblies of Zion that will be led by a cloud by day and a shinning of a flaming fire by night, upon all the Glory shall be a defense. Rev 3:10, Isaiah 4:4-5 YHWH's plan is that the Second Time He sets His Hand to recover the remnant of His People who are scattered among all the nations, those who have been grafted into Israel, the House of Jacob, His Heritage, The seed of Abraham, His Friend. Galatians 3:29, Isaiah 41:8 Is that this will be a Greater Exodus, from all the places He has driven them, This Exodus from all the nations will cause the Egyptian Exodus to pale by comparison in signs and wonders, as He brings back the captivity of the House of Israel, which will begin following the gog-magog war, Judah having returned first to prepare the way Jer 16:14-15, Isaiah 11:11-12, Zecharaih 12:7 Watch and Pray, that you/ i may be accounted worthy to escape the hour of trial by being in One of the assemblies of the 144,000 Obadiah 1:21, Rev 14:1 |
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Butch User ID: 6865481 United States 03/01/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, if you understand that, How can you wonder why christians interpret scripture "delusionally"? THAT is whats wrong with the world. christianty is the worlds largest religion. So, the vast majority of religious people in the world are under a "strong delusion" STRONG - DELUSION. thats a very serious problem. If it was just a delusion, there would be some hope for remedy. The fact that it is a "spirit" of strong delusion, SENT BY YAH, tells me that there is no way to undo the delusion. Therefore, don't expect anything good to come out of it. As far as the Daniel prophesy goes, it is revealed that the goat is alexander the great, the four horns that spring up are the kingdoms of his generals, and the little horn comes out of those kingdoms. the roman empire. Rome. Gabriel was fighting the prince of persia, michael was sent to help him fight, gabriel went to see Daniel and Gabriel told him that when he got back to the fight, the prince of greece would come. Thus, the Greco/Roman empire. The christians adopted that pagan culture, led by the pope at rome. Their claim that the first pope was the apostle Peter is a myth. Peter refused to sit with gentiles. Peter was only taken to rome against his will, as Yahushuah told him he would be in his old age. And there Peter opposed the "real" first christian pope in rome - his archenemy Simon Magus. Peter exposed simon magus for the devil he was, but Peter and Paul were soon murdered in rome. Peter waan't the pope in rome, he was just murdered there. Christianity is the "worldwide" church of antichrist. Televangelist use a "beast [tv]" that gives power to the IMAGE of the beast to speak. thats what TV is, a beaast- unhuman machine, that gives power to images to speak. They proselytize with trickery and feel good religion, that is mammon centric. Last Edited by Bunch on 03/01/2012 05:40 PM |
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Bunch User ID: 6865481 United States 03/02/2012 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People watch this and will have no clue what it means. The interpretation is simple. --------------------------------------------------------- "FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED UP TO HEAVEN" This is televangelism. Broadcast waves that travel into infinity. "ALL THE NATION ARE DRUNK ON HER WINE". This refers to being delusional on false doctrine. There is no other way to possibly interpret it. The only thing it can possibly be is what i told you. What other way could sins reach all the way to heaven, and what other way could all the nations of world get drunk on her wine? Broadcast waves are the only thing that can reach heaven. And drunk is a state of spiritual delusion. Wine is false doctrine that mzkes one spiritually drunk. You can see the expression of it online if you go to youtube and watch the delusional teaching of delusional christian preachers and teachers. The disconcerting thing is that it is so obvious, and people just can't see it. They have eyes to see, and they are blind. They have ears to hear, and they are deaf. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11610094 United States 03/02/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People watch this and will have no clue what it means. The interpretation is simple. --------------------------------------------------------- "FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED UP TO HEAVEN" This is televangelism. Broadcast waves that travel into infinity. "ALL THE NATION ARE DRUNK ON HER WINE". This refers to being delusional on false doctrine. There is no other way to possibly interpret it. The only thing it can possibly be is what i told you. What other way could sins reach all the way to heaven, and what other way could all the nations of world get drunk on her wine? Broadcast waves are the only thing that can reach heaven. And drunk is a state of spiritual delusion. Wine is false doctrine that mzkes one spiritually drunk. You can see the expression of it online if you go to youtube and watch the delusional teaching of delusional christian preachers and teachers. The disconcerting thing is that it is so obvious, and people just can't see it. They have eyes to see, and they are blind. They have ears to hear, and they are deaf. You may want to reconsider, Revelation 18 is a synopsis of Jeremiah 50 and 51, which describes an endtime nation that sits upon many waters, sees itself as the world's police, has many cities, who will be destroyed in a conflict with Iran and a company of great nations by fire Jer 51:53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, [yet] from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith YHWH. Mystery babylon = USA |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11610094 United States 03/02/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time Prophecies Hosea 5:15 I will go, return to My place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek My face: in their affliction they will seek Me early. When did YHWH leave His Place ? Is it not when He took upon flesh and humbled Himself even unto death. Phillipians 2, rhetorical question Answer is YES The chapter breaks are not in the original manuscripts, this prophecy continues in Hosea 6 Hosea 6:2 it is written > After two days He will revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight YHWH returns to His Place for two days, 2000 years, unless those days are shortened no flesh would survive 2 Peter 3:8, Matthew 24:22 Since All truth needs to be established by two or more witnesses> Mat 18:16 we have another Ezekiel 4:5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. 390 days = 390 years YHWH already warned our fathers that if they would not repent, he would increase their punishment 7 times > Lev 26:18, 21, 24, 28 Lev 26:18 ¶ And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. 390 x 7 = 2730 years The House of Israel was completely removed from the promised land by the asyrians in 721 BC It was prophesied that the House of Israel, not the House of Judah would be scattered into the nations because of Ashtoreth/ Easter worship 1 Kings 11:33 721 BC + 2009 AD = 2730 years |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11293621 United States 03/03/2012 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10/09/2009 + 1260 days Abib 11/ 3/22/2013 3/22/2013 + 1290 days = Elul 29 - Tishri 1 Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Tishri 1 = YOM TERUAH Yom Teruah is also the time of the reaping of the summer harvest. Spiritually speaking, this period will be the time of the reaping of the righteous to their reward (Rev. 14:4) and the harvest of the wicked to the great winepress of Elohiym’s wrath (Rev. 14:14-20). It is the time of the resurrection of the dead in Messiah Yeshua at the end of the tribulation (Matt. 24:29) and the beginning of Elohiym’s wrath being poured out upon the nations (see Joel 3:11-13). This begins the Wrath of Elohiym time pictured by Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement, which occurs ten days after Yom Teruah) before which time the dead Saints will have been resurrected and given their spiritual, glorified, second Adam bodies. 1Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the ADONAY so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11610094 United States 03/05/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Babylon might be the USA, but I don't think necessarily the WHOLE country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11891225 I suspect that New York City and/or California might fulfill the prophecy. I think we'll know for sure very soon. Shalom I believe that it is all the land of the USA, all her cities, even so, if i were to limit the coming destruction...Washington DC would be on top of the list. Jeremiah 51:42 The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof. 43 Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby. >>>>>>> THE USA IS MODERN DAY BABYLON Spiritually (sod/deeper meaning), the USA is the land of Babylon. The word Babylon means "confusion" (Genesis [Bereishit] 11:9). Babylon is a generic term in the Bible that refers to the ways of the adversary (HaSatan) and his kingdom of darkness. The Bible talks about a financial Babylon, a political Babylon, a religious Babylon and a land of Babylon. Literally (Peshat), the modern land of Babylon is the area of Iran and Iraq. However, today, very few members of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity)Jeremiah 50:4 live in Iran and Iraq. Therefore, there must also be a spiritual (sod/deeper meaning) land of Babylon. Today, the USA is the spiritual land of Babylon. The prophets of Israel had much to say about the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days. The judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is prophesied in Isaiah (Yeshayahu) chapter 13, 21:1-10 and chapter 47, Jeremiah (Yermiyahu) chapters 50 and 51. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament), the judgment of the land of Babylon in the end of days is spoken about in Revelation 18. THE CHARACTERISTICS OF BABYLON 1. Babylon is an end-time nation who is judged by the G-d of Israel "in those days and in that time" and in the "day of trouble." This is a reference to the time of Jacob’s trouble or the birth pangs of the Messiah (Chevlai shel Mashiach) (Isaiah 13:8, 13, 21:3, Jeremiah 50:4, 20, 51:2, 43). 2. Babylon is a rich and economically prosperous country (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13, Revelation 18:3, 19). 3. Babylon is a land of "mixed/mingled people" (Jeremiah 50:37). 4. Babylon is a world military power (Jeremiah 51:53). 5. Babylon is a country that has defeated mighty kingdoms through war (Jeremiah 50:23,51:20-21). 6. Babylon is a land that sits among many waters (Jeremiah 51:13). 7. Babylon is a country that has a heritage in the G-d of Israel but has sinned and has turned from the G-d of Israel (Jeremiah 50:11, 14, 24, 29, 38, 51:7). 8. The G-d of Israel would have healed the land of Babylon if she would have repented but she will not repent (II Chronicles 7:14, Jeremiah 51:8-9). 9. The good news of Messiah is going forth from the land of Babylon but it will be "cut off" in "the time of harvest" which is the end of the age (Jeremiah 50:16, Matthew 13:39). 10. Babylon is a country that does not believe that it will experience the wrath and judgment of the G-d of Israel (be a widow) (Isaiah 47:5, 7-10, Revelation 18:7-8). 11. The attacking power against Babylon is from the north (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48). 12. Babylon is destroyed by extremely accurate arrows (missiles) and the attack is devastating (Jeremiah 50:9, 14, 29, 42, 51:3, 11). 13. A fire is kindled in the cities of Babylon from the accurate arrows (missiles) (Jeremiah 50:32, Revelation 18:8). 14. Babylon will be destroyed in the way that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed (Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:40). 15. When Babylon is destroyed, it will never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19-20, Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 26, 39-40, 51:2-3, 26, 29, 37, 43, 63-64). 16. The nations of the world tremble and shake in fear at the defeat of Babylon (Jeremiah 50:46, Revelation 18:9-10). 17. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon are called to flee from Babylon and go to the land of Israel (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 50:4-5,16-19, 28, 33, 51:9, 45, Revelation 18:4). 18. The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon and who have escaped the sword (judgment upon the land of Babylon) are called by the G-d of Israel to let Jerusalem come to their mind (Jeremiah 50:4, 51:50). 19. When Babylon is destroyed, the sins of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) will be pardoned (the exile will be over and the house of Judah and the house of Israel will be restored) (Jeremiah 50:20). 20. When the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) flees the land of Babylon and returns to the land of Israel, they will enter into an ETERNAL covenant that will not be forgotten (the Messianic Age/Athid Lavo) (Jeremiah 50:4-5 = Ezekiel 37:26-27). From the 20 characteristics of the land of Babylon given above, I believe that the evidence is overwhelmingly conclusive that the nation being portrayed by these characteristics is the United States of America. Because of the just described characteristics of the USA and because the USA has been the most influential nation of the world in encouraging Israel to divide/part her land by trading "land for peace" and because the USA desires to make Jerusalem (Yerushalayim) an international city, the USA will be totally destroyed during the tribulation period or the birth pangs of the Messiah (Chevlai shel Mashiach). Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat(YAH is Judge), and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My land. Excerpt from the book Restoring the Two Houses of Israel Chapter 11 [link to www.waytozion.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11610094 United States 03/05/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shema Yisra’EL YAHUWAH ELoheynu YAHUWAH Echad, Ve’ahavta ET YAHUWAH ELoheyka bekhol levavkha u’vekhol nafshekha u’vekho me’odkha Deuteronomy 6:4-5 [link to www.hebrew4christians.com] If you think this thread is worth considering, bump for others Laila tov |
Axx User ID: 1474596 United States 03/05/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Daniel 9:27 and he shall strengthen the covenant with many for one week Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293621 This is key to this FULFILLED prophecy. He is not AntiChrist rather Christ Jesus. What a fantastic twist on Bible prophecy to turn a prophecy about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ into a prediction about a coming antiChrist! Earlier verses Daniel 9:25 shows this is about a coming Messia! He came and this has been fulfilled. Daniel's real timeline......................... [link to biblelight.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11610094 United States 03/06/2012 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Daniel 9:27 and he shall strengthen the covenant with many for one week Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293621 This is key to this FULFILLED prophecy. He is not AntiChrist rather Christ Jesus. What a fantastic twist on Bible prophecy to turn a prophecy about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ into a prediction about a coming antiChrist! Earlier verses Daniel 9:25 shows this is about a coming Messia! He came and this has been fulfilled. Daniel's real timeline......................... [link to biblelight.net] Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) The Abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel There are two verses in Daniel that speak of the abomination of desolation specifically Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate The he that confirms the covenant is the he that makes desolate, and will cause the daily sacrifice to cease Daniel 12:11 Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. conclusion, your link has the second coming happening in 1843, when the Millerites waited in vain, changed to a investigative judgment when that did not happen called the Great Disappointment OY VEY |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12102396 United States 03/07/2012 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Seven Year "At a Glance" Calendar ( The Great Tribulation is the last 3 1/2 Years of the 7 year Prophetic Week ) [link to www.danielstimeline.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11293621 United States 03/08/2012 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Flavius Josephus: "...the entire body of the people of Israel remained in that country; wherefore there are but two tribes in Asia and Europe subject to the Romans, while the ten tribes are beyond Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude, and not to be estimated by numbers." -Antiquities of the jewish people (Book XI Chapter 5 Section 2) [link to www.sacred-texts.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 11293621 United States 03/08/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greater Exodus Micah 7:15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of ELOHIYM, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. Hosea 2:14 Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her. Ezekiel 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the ADONAY YHWH Jeremiah 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. Israel will be delivered in the Great Tribulation, Not those who are hoping in a pre-trib rapture, they will die by the sword Amos 9:10 Amos 9:10 All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us. Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day 3/22/2013 The First Day of Spring, the sixth day of the week, not in winter, nor on the Sabbath day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12102396 United States 03/08/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pray that you get left behind Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth The wicked/tares will be removed first Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into My barn as in the days of Noah, the wicked were destroyed and Noah remained on the earth as in the days of Lot, the wicked were destroyed and Lot remained on the earth YHWH, who alone has been declaring the end from the beginning warns His People not to trust in a Pre-trib rapture Amos 9:10 All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor precede us. John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through their word; It is the false teachers who are making merchandise of the flock by tickling the ears of the ignorant, promising them an escape that is not going to happen. In the USA, the majority of those who claim to know YESHUA, do not believe Him when He said, His coming is AFTER the Tribulation, they would rather put their trust in foolish men. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory ^^^^^ The Blessed Hope Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great ELOHIYM and our Saviour YAHUSHUA MASHIYACH; The falling away, those who put their hope in a false rapture, when they realize we are already in the last seven years and they are still here |
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