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IS THERE AN APOCALYPSE CONSPIRACY?

 
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My purpose is to start an intelligent conversation about the possibility that TPTB are manipulating us into thinking that Armageddon is just around the corner because they are planning on crashing the remnants of a crumbling financial system and culling the herd. This could be planned to occur along with natural cycles in the weather, WW3, bioweapons, famine, and a general breakdown in the economic system and social structure of the world. What do you think?

I believe they want us to think that the world is coming to an end so that most of us will go quietly into the night. Then they can start the same thing all over again.

My theory is the world as we know it is definitely coming to an end, however, I believe that a lot of the things going on today are being caused or manipulated by TPTB like the failing economic system, diseases, food shortages, and the belief Armageddon is just around the corner. We have been constantly bombarded with Apocalyptic Movies, Documentaries, News, etc. and WW3 is in the making. I live in the Bible belt and the churches down here are saying we are in the "End Times". Is this a reality or has it been an artificial construct of TPTB coordinated to coincide with natural climatic changes? I believe the later and I believe they are planning on taking humanity into the "Dark Ages II". Then TPTB will rise again from the ashes like the Phoenix and start a similar system all over again. wHAT DO YOU THINK?



HOW BANKERS RIGGED THE FIRST AND WORST, GLOBAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE 650 YRS. AGO AND 1/2 WORLDS POPULATION DIED, "THE DARK AGES"
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No one has any opinions?
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Almost makes you wonder if all the bible doomers are useful idiots or shills.
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The elite parasite off the interest streams of our monetary system. Unfortunately, the system has a lifespan that is coming to an end. I believe you are correct in your assumption the elite are utilizing smokescreens and scapegoats to mask the reality of our three centuries old, debt back money system which is rapidly dying. Of course, right before the inevitable collapse occurs, and the reset button hit(culling of the herd), the carefully prepared scapegoat will be dragged out and receive the blame for the miseries to follow.

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Almost makes you wonder if all the bible doomers are useful idiots or shills.
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We have all been manipulated to one extreme or another. I personally think all religions are used to manipulate and divide us. That does not mean their is not a certain amount of truth in all of them because I think there is. But I believe they have done more harm than good by dividing humanity. In the near future I see WW3 that will be the ultimate amount of harm and it will be essentially a religious war that has been artificially created. I think that is very sad.

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Another possiblity that you are not consider is that the "doom" that gets thrown around so often is just another means of control.

People who can be led to believe that the end is nigh are far less likely to remain engaged in the day-to-day goings on of the world around them (outside of doom, of course).

Essentially, the idea would be to make people not care and, as a result, make them a non-factor in any sort of popular issue.

Just some thoughts to stimulate the conversation.
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The elite parasite off the interest streams of our monetary system. Unfortunately, the system has a lifespan that is coming to an end. I believe you are correct in your assumption the elite are utilizing smokescreens and scapegoats to mask the reality of our three centuries old, debt back money system which is rapidly dying. Of course, right before the inevitable collapse occurs, and the reset button hit(culling of the herd), the carefully prepared scapegoat will be dragged out and receive the blame for the miseries to follow.

[link to hypertiger.blogspot.com]
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How big is the reset button going to be. We obviously have WW3 brewing in the middle east, that's a given. What do you see happening and where will their next empire reside? I think Australia would be a great place to start. It will most likely be out of the way of a lot of nuclear fallout. Also I have heard a lot of people are moving to Patagonia in South America another good one.
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Another possiblity that you are not consider is that the "doom" that gets thrown around so often is just another means of control.

People who can be led to believe that the end is nigh are far less likely to remain engaged in the day-to-day goings on of the world around them (outside of doom, of course).

Essentially, the idea would be to make people not care and, as a result, make them a non-factor in any sort of popular issue.

Just some thoughts to stimulate the conversation.
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I really think they are planning something big for us. The Dark Ages were a time much like today and were initiated by a financial collapse called the Lombard Collapse. Not much written about it but it was the biggest collapse ever. I also think that our history has been rewritten so that we don't really know what happened in the past.
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Come on people please lets see if we can't get this discussion going.
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The elite parasite off the interest streams of our monetary system. Unfortunately, the system has a lifespan that is coming to an end. I believe you are correct in your assumption the elite are utilizing smokescreens and scapegoats to mask the reality of our three centuries old, debt back money system which is rapidly dying. Of course, right before the inevitable collapse occurs, and the reset button hit(culling of the herd), the carefully prepared scapegoat will be dragged out and receive the blame for the miseries to follow.

[link to hypertiger.blogspot.com]
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How big is the reset button going to be. We obviously have WW3 brewing in the middle east, that's a given. What do you see happening and where will their next empire reside? I think Australia would be a great place to start. It will most likely be out of the way of a lot of nuclear fallout. Also I have heard a lot of people are moving to Patagonia in South America another good one.
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Strangely enough, I read the article from your link some years ago and found it quite interesting. Although the author does not directly state, I believe he was attempting to draw a connection between the Venetian banking collapse, of 1345, and the black plague hitting Europe in 1347; the last iteration of the culling of the herd process.

As for the present cyclical end to the 1694 creation of the Anglo-Dutch/Crown monetary cycle, I believe the "reset" will involve a 50+% reduction in population. I have no facts to base this on, however.
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The elite parasite off the interest streams of our monetary system. Unfortunately, the system has a lifespan that is coming to an end. I believe you are correct in your assumption the elite are utilizing smokescreens and scapegoats to mask the reality of our three centuries old, debt back money system which is rapidly dying. Of course, right before the inevitable collapse occurs, and the reset button hit(culling of the herd), the carefully prepared scapegoat will be dragged out and receive the blame for the miseries to follow.

[link to hypertiger.blogspot.com]
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How big is the reset button going to be. We obviously have WW3 brewing in the middle east, that's a given. What do you see happening and where will their next empire reside? I think Australia would be a great place to start. It will most likely be out of the way of a lot of nuclear fallout. Also I have heard a lot of people are moving to Patagonia in South America another good one.
 Quoting: grefey


Strangely enough, I read the article from your link some years ago and found it quite interesting. Although the author does not directly state, I believe he was attempting to draw a connection between the Venetian banking collapse, of 1345, and the black plague hitting Europe in 1347; the last iteration of the culling of the herd process.

As for the present cyclical end to the 1694 creation of the Anglo-Dutch/Crown monetary cycle, I believe the "reset" will involve a 50+% reduction in population. I have no facts to base this on, however.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4984203


I am glad you read the other thread. I know most of this stuff is intuitive and a lot of detective work and the fact that TPTB have rewritten history to suite their purposes makes it difficult. But I do believe I see all the ducks lining up in a row.
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The elite parasite off the interest streams of our monetary system. Unfortunately, the system has a lifespan that is coming to an end. I believe you are correct in your assumption the elite are utilizing smokescreens and scapegoats to mask the reality of our three centuries old, debt back money system which is rapidly dying. Of course, right before the inevitable collapse occurs, and the reset button hit(culling of the herd), the carefully prepared scapegoat will be dragged out and receive the blame for the miseries to follow.

[link to hypertiger.blogspot.com]
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How big is the reset button going to be. We obviously have WW3 brewing in the middle east, that's a given. What do you see happening and where will their next empire reside? I think Australia would be a great place to start. It will most likely be out of the way of a lot of nuclear fallout. Also I have heard a lot of people are moving to Patagonia in South America another good one.
 Quoting: grefey


Strangely enough, I read the article from your link some years ago and found it quite interesting. Although the author does not directly state, I believe he was attempting to draw a connection between the Venetian banking collapse, of 1345, and the black plague hitting Europe in 1347; the last iteration of the culling of the herd process.

As for the present cyclical end to the 1694 creation of the Anglo-Dutch/Crown monetary cycle, I believe the "reset" will involve a 50+% reduction in population. I have no facts to base this on, however.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4984203


I am glad you read the other thread. I know most of this stuff is intuitive and a lot of detective work and the fact that TPTB have rewritten history to suite their purposes makes it difficult. But I do believe I see all the ducks lining up in a row.
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I understand being this deep down the rabbit hole is a lonely place to be. I wish you the best of luck for whatever the future holds for all of us.
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THE ARMAGEDDON PLOT

By Fritz Springmeier



The Word of God teaches that there will be a future, visible, personal coming of the Christ who left Palestine approximately 2,000 years ago.



This article exposes a plan to co-opt that teaching so that the satanic hierarchy of the Illuminati can install their own great “Christ”. Their agents have worked both inside and outside of Christendom to co-opt “end-time prophetic” expectations. The Illuminati has encouraged false doctrines within the so-called Christian churches to the point that these false doctrines have become entrenched as religious idols. Many Christian churches have left off their first love (Christ) and are now active agents for supporting Big Brother and idolatry. Other churches have neutralized and neutered Christians so bad they are like salt that has lost its saltiness. Others are unbalanced in their end time doctrines, teaching false doctrines that set the stage for the Illuminati agenda. The net effect of all this, is to place all people in danger of a great end-time Anti-Christ delusion, as well as many minor deceptions.



My approach in presenting this information is to keep this article brief and easy to read. Rather than bog the reader down with Bible verses and complex arguments, I have chosen to touch on several controversial issues only lightly. The only alternative would be to plunge the reader into debates that could fill libraries. I believe that even though I have not attempted to prove all my statements by writing book-length defenses of my statements (and thereby turning this into a book), that the reader will appreciate the article if he or she persists to the end. Before I discuss the Illuminati directly, let me lay the groundwork for how the churches have been neutered.



One of the most dangerous and unscriptural teachings is dispensational pre-millennialism. (One of the problems it presents Bible believers is that it believes in more than one way of salvation—although this scriptural defect is rarely admitted by its promoters.) Many Christians and non-Christians are not even aware of what Dispensational Pre-millennialism is (nor do they care), but most have heard prophetic ministries on television, which warn us what the Bible predicts based on this system of interpretation of the Bible. One way that you can spot this doctrine is that its believers believe that they are going to be raptured because supposedly God doesn’t want them to suffer. (Which is contrary to what He says in His Word.) They will not challenge the evil global dictatorship that continues to tighten its grip on us like a boa constrictor because they are going to be magically whisked away from trouble. (They tell me, “It doesn’t matter what I do, I’m saved and am going to be raptured.”) When good no longer will confront evil, the salt has lost its saltiness. It may be asked why God is leaving saints here on planet earth if they are not to confront Satan’s kingdom? It is no exaggeration for me to say that hundreds of these dispensational pre-millenialists have told me that to fight the New World Order is to fight God. Since when do the people of God acquiesce to evil?



Dispensational pre-millenialists, who are of course double pre-s, believing also in a pretrib rapture, have captured the popular attention of Bible believers today, even though many of the seminaries, which used to teach it have discarded this system due to its proven un-scripturalness. Dispensational Pre-millenialism is associated with its founders the Jesuits, its promoters Darby and Schofield (both lawyers), and its advertisers in our present day, the popular television ministers. Its flexible doctrines lend themselves to sensationalism and emotionalism. Additionally, its promoters have at times been like wolves attacking anyone who would dare not share their multitude of arrogant interpretations.



I write arrogant, because for over 150 years, pre-millenialists have repeatedly been proven wrong by events, their false predictions are quietly forgotten, but their arrogance continues. Just one example of many pre-millenialists would be the Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose original name during the first half of the Watchtower’s history was Bible Students. The Bible Students (from the 1930’s on known as Jehovah’s Witnesses) predicted that the end was coming in 1874, 1878, 1914, the end of W.W. I, 1925, 1940, 1941, Oct. 1975, and then highly likely in 2000. Charles T. Russell was in a white robe on the 6th St. Bridge in Pittsburgh, PA with his followers waiting for the rapture on the Memorial night of Christ’s death in 1878. Later in 1914, they were waiting in the Bethel dining room in Brooklyn, NY to be raptured up.



These dates were presented as “written in stone”. They were advertised as God’s dates, and anyone who suggested that they might not happen was of the devil, an opposer of God, who didn’t believe the Bible. I personally remember Jehovah’s Witnesses who sold their houses and didn’t marry because the Watchtower Society told them the end would be 1975. The problem was that these dates were always portrayed as God’s definite date—let’s exactly quote the Watchtower Society’s portrayal: “…it is beyond the breadth and depth of human thought, and therefore cannot be of human origin [i.e. its God’s date].” “…definitely marked…” “…is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel.” “…Armageddon is very near. It behooves all who love righteousness to put forth every effort to advertise THE THEOCRACY while the privileges are still open.”



What is also very interesting about C.T. Russell and the Watchtower Society which is revealed in three of my books (The Watchtower & the Masons, Be Wise As Serpents, Bloodlines of the Illuminati) is that C.T. Russell came from an Illuminati bloodline, the hierarchy of the WT Society is Illuminati, and that they (the Watchtower Society) received financial support from Jewish financiers, the B’nai B’rith and Freemasonry. Russell himself was a Freemason. The connections between the Illuminati and the Watchtower Society continue to this day.



The Watchtower Society is perhaps the best example of an Armageddon preaching religion and they are Illuminati sponsored. Most groups calling themselves Christian have various ministries that they emphasize such as benevolence, running hospitals etc., but the Jehovah’s Witnesses have all their spiritual eggs in one basket, the preaching of Armageddon.



The Illuminati have also supported other Pre-millenial groups, and their promotion of the Armageddon warning. I have exposed other Freemasons besides C.T. Russell, who are religious leaders, who are also supported by the Illuminati, and who have preached Armageddon. Just one of many is the Freemason William Miller, whose end-time prophecies in the 1840’s caught the attention of many in America and Europe, and helped lay the groundwork for another “end-time” Masonic project, the Bahai religion (now associated with the United Nations).



So the big question is: WHAT DO THE GENERATIONAL SATANIC BLOODLINES HAVE TO GAIN FROM PREACHING WORLDWIDE ABOUT ARMAGEDDON? At first thought, it would seem that they would not want to advertise something from the Bible. But they are and are using many groups and many forms of the same general message. Actually, while Christians have been preaching the “end-times”, so have many of the hard-core occult groups associated with the Illuminati. For instance, Hans Hofer, a Fabian Socialist and student of Fabian Bertrand Russell, has written about the coming Golden Age. The Golden Dawn, a satanic lodge system, is another example of a hard-core occult group warning about Armageddon (for instance their publications This Final War, and Watch Jerusalem). This last decade, the Illuminati gave the green light to finance Hollywood movies that showed natural disasters, so that the public has been inundated by movies about natural disasters of all kinds, (which are often referred to as “the Wrath of God”).



Art Bell’s radio show is a reflection of the popularity of end time predictions and scares. Art Bell uses an Illuminati logo and has said he is a Freemason. All this, as well as his guest list, which is full of Illuminati/CIA agents, suggests that he is sanctioned on the air by the Illuminati. Whatever the case may be, the popularity of his show indicates the mood of the times, which is being encouraged by Illuminati financed broadcasters.



I have written a good number of articles about weather modifications, and the evidence of how many of our natural disasters (famines, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, etc.) are being encouraged by weather modification. There are many avenues that the Illuminati is taking to create the appearance of the end-times. “Appearance” may not be strong enough language for the person who has to endure his home being destroyed by a flood or earthquake. I use this word only to emphasize that problems are being artificially created worldwide.



Indeed, people who I have worked with who I helped out of the Illuminati confirm that the Illuminati do indeed have an agenda to use the concept of Armageddon for their own ends. This returns us to the question, what do they have to gain by scaring us with Scriptures?



Evil is so devious that it has consistently tried to co-opt and control the truth of the Word of God. The men who were behind Christ’s martyrdom were the Bible scholars of his day. These men were occultists. They used the Bible for their own arrogant purposes. Today, within the Illuminati is an arrogance. They have run this planet for hundreds of years. Their occult power has not been seriously challenged or stopped by the God of the Bible. They haven’t seen any lightening bolts from heaven ordering them to stop. Actually there have been a number of strong witnesses of God’s power to these generational satanic families, but in general most of them are too arrogant to accept any witness from God Almighty. In reality, the Illuminati’s power is ultimately that of a paper dragon, but its appearance is very frightening. The point is, the movers and shakers do not have a proper fear of the God of the Bible, so they think they can use the Bible for their own agendas.
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Armageddon Plot (continued)


I can think of numerous benefits to the Illuminati to preach Armageddon including the following:


The fear about disasters puts us into a survival mode and rather than think about concepts such as freedom and faith in Christ; we are easy to manipulate because we will do most anything to survive. (“Help us, we need FEMA, and please give them total dictatorial emergency powers.”) Fear and trauma are also key components to their total mind-control.


It makes the God of the Bible appear wrathful and cruel, while they can present their Lucifer as a light bearer, as one who liberates us from all the cruel harsh arbitrary rules of God. While this is not what God is really like, people have YHWH God is so often misrepresented that people tend to believe God is cruel. El Nino, with its disastrous warm currents and weather effects, was the Spanish name meaning “the Christ child”. Why don’t we name natural disasters after demons?


They are attempting to control events and disasters in order to install their own “Christ” and thereby use their opponent’s holy book to legitimize their own world ruler. This ruler will be able to save us from our troubles, just as Hitler saved Germans from their troubles during the first few years of Nazism. Appreciation for the Bible’s wisdom is reduced by all the wild end-time theories that the Bible seems to support.


One important purpose of Armageddon preaching is the creation of a one-world government. National governments and nationalism can be destroyed, because entire countries are being taught that nationalism is evil. While Christ taught us to respect all men, love for one’s family and nation is not evil. I can love my country and still appreciate that you love yours. I can love my family and still appreciate you love yours. Nationalism does not have to be an evil. On Thanksgivings Day we tend to renew family ties in this nation. No one would suggest that Thanksgivings Day is dangerous. Our love for our nation (our extended family) could also be that benign if our evil leaders didn’t create unnecessary wars to pit us against each other. There have been clan wars, royal bloodline wars, mafia and other family feuds, and this shows us that even family ties can lead to violence.


But my point is that the love of the family and nation are not inherently bad, and are not condemned in the Word of God. The Word of God actually wants us to honor our families and nations, and asks us not to destroy them or their boundaries. Most people are unaware that in some areas of Africa, the Watchtower Society is the biggest religion, and their Armageddon teachings have totally destroyed any chance for certain relatively new African nations to claim the allegiance of their people.


Another big benefit of these Armageddon teachings is to stop people from resisting their agenda. People are taught that to resist these disasters is to resist God. People are taught that to resist the One-world-government is to resist God. Another great side effect is that genuine Bible believers who have correctly understood scripture can be mocked and discredited. In the long run, the Bible itself is discredited. For instance, Chinese believers in China prior to the Mao’s Red Chinese takeover were told that they would be raptured before they suffered any tribulation. The communists took over and tortured and martyred millions of Chinese Christians who mistakenly thought the Bible taught that they would be raptured before any suffering. The Bible was widely discredited, because it had been mistaught.


So I have shown the reader that the Illuminati has already used pre-millenial Armageddon teachings and rapture teachings to discredit the Bible, destroy trust in God, remove trust in honest Bible interpreters, and to promote their own agenda for a One-World government and a world wide savior (a “benevolent” dictator similar to Hitler) who will rule the planet. Their disdain and arrogance toward God can be seen in their audacity to spread the use of the Bible through institutions they control. They think they have the power to control its message and use. They may control essentially all of organized religion (which was what Be Wise As Serpents documented); and they may control the weather to some extent (which I’ve documented in other writings)-- but they do not control the hearts of God’s people. This is one place they underestimate the power of the Word of God, and God has chosen the weak things, the insignificant people, to show His power. And really what will these powerful men gain, if they gain the entire world and lose their own souls???
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Armageddon Plot (continued)


I can think of numerous benefits to the Illuminati to preach Armageddon including the following:


The fear about disasters puts us into a survival mode and rather than think about concepts such as freedom and faith in Christ; we are easy to manipulate because we will do most anything to survive. (“Help us, we need FEMA, and please give them total dictatorial emergency powers.”) Fear and trauma are also key components to their total mind-control.


It makes the God of the Bible appear wrathful and cruel, while they can present their Lucifer as a light bearer, as one who liberates us from all the cruel harsh arbitrary rules of God. While this is not what God is really like, people have YHWH God is so often misrepresented that people tend to believe God is cruel. El Nino, with its disastrous warm currents and weather effects, was the Spanish name meaning “the Christ child”. Why don’t we name natural disasters after demons?


They are attempting to control events and disasters in order to install their own “Christ” and thereby use their opponent’s holy book to legitimize their own world ruler. This ruler will be able to save us from our troubles, just as Hitler saved Germans from their troubles during the first few years of Nazism. Appreciation for the Bible’s wisdom is reduced by all the wild end-time theories that the Bible seems to support.


One important purpose of Armageddon preaching is the creation of a one-world government. National governments and nationalism can be destroyed, because entire countries are being taught that nationalism is evil. While Christ taught us to respect all men, love for one’s family and nation is not evil. I can love my country and still appreciate that you love yours. I can love my family and still appreciate you love yours. Nationalism does not have to be an evil. On Thanksgivings Day we tend to renew family ties in this nation. No one would suggest that Thanksgivings Day is dangerous. Our love for our nation (our extended family) could also be that benign if our evil leaders didn’t create unnecessary wars to pit us against each other. There have been clan wars, royal bloodline wars, mafia and other family feuds, and this shows us that even family ties can lead to violence.


But my point is that the love of the family and nation are not inherently bad, and are not condemned in the Word of God. The Word of God actually wants us to honor our families and nations, and asks us not to destroy them or their boundaries. Most people are unaware that in some areas of Africa, the Watchtower Society is the biggest religion, and their Armageddon teachings have totally destroyed any chance for certain relatively new African nations to claim the allegiance of their people.


Another big benefit of these Armageddon teachings is to stop people from resisting their agenda. People are taught that to resist these disasters is to resist God. People are taught that to resist the One-world-government is to resist God. Another great side effect is that genuine Bible believers who have correctly understood scripture can be mocked and discredited. In the long run, the Bible itself is discredited. For instance, Chinese believers in China prior to the Mao’s Red Chinese takeover were told that they would be raptured before they suffered any tribulation. The communists took over and tortured and martyred millions of Chinese Christians who mistakenly thought the Bible taught that they would be raptured before any suffering. The Bible was widely discredited, because it had been mistaught.


So I have shown the reader that the Illuminati has already used pre-millenial Armageddon teachings and rapture teachings to discredit the Bible, destroy trust in God, remove trust in honest Bible interpreters, and to promote their own agenda for a One-World government and a world wide savior (a “benevolent” dictator similar to Hitler) who will rule the planet. Their disdain and arrogance toward God can be seen in their audacity to spread the use of the Bible through institutions they control. They think they have the power to control its message and use. They may control essentially all of organized religion (which was what Be Wise As Serpents documented); and they may control the weather to some extent (which I’ve documented in other writings)-- but they do not control the hearts of God’s people. This is one place they underestimate the power of the Word of God, and God has chosen the weak things, the insignificant people, to show His power. And really what will these powerful men gain, if they gain the entire world and lose their own souls???
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Can we get some more ratings to get this discussion going cause I think there is a lot to it.

Thanks this is good great stuff. I knew there were others out there that had an opinion on this subject. What do people think is going to happen where is the next Babylon going to be after America falls. I think it is going to be in the Southern Hemisphere. I think there are going to be a lot of climatic changes.

I believe in a God but I am not a Christian. I do think there is a lot of good things in the bible, but it has also been corrupted. I believe in the Christ Consciousness but not that Christ was the son of god. How about you?

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My purpose is to start an intelligent conversation about the possibility that TPTB are manipulating us into thinking that Armageddon is just around the corner because they are planning on crashing the remnants of a crumbling financial system and culling the herd. This could be planned to occur along with natural cycles in the weather, WW3, bioweapons, famine, and a general breakdown in the economic system and social structure of the world. What do you think?

I believe they want us to think that the world is coming to an end so that most of us will go quietly into the night. Then they can start the same thing all over again.

My theory is the world as we know it is definitely coming to an end, however, I believe that a lot of the things going on today are being caused or manipulated by TPTB like the failing economic system, diseases, food shortages, and the belief Armageddon is just around the corner. We have been constantly bombarded with Apocalyptic Movies, Documentaries, News, etc. and WW3 is in the making. I live in the Bible belt and the churches down here are saying we are in the "End Times". Is this a reality or has it been an artificial construct of TPTB coordinated to coincide with natural climatic changes? I believe the later and I believe they are planning on taking humanity into the "Dark Ages II". Then TPTB will rise again from the ashes like the Phoenix and start a similar system all over again. wHAT DO YOU THINK?



HOW BANKERS RIGGED THE FIRST AND WORST, GLOBAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE 650 YRS. AGO AND 1/2 WORLDS POPULATION DIED, "THE DARK AGES"
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Dear Xena, you nailed it !

Because of the internet, it is more and more difficult for them to censor INVENTIONS that could fuck up with their plan/ hegemony:
- Free energy will crush their financial system.
- Exotic propulsion engines (like antigravity) will allow us to escape from this planet (and eventually come back later for revenge)
- Repair our genetic code so we can use 100% of the brain or to live longer (aka wiser)

If they don’t stop the net and kill us quickly, eventually, an invention like that will fuck their plan of “Dark Ages II”. One thing is sure: They don’t like Star Trek

That’s why they are speeding up…

But maybe you are just collecting points for them… Who knows?
bkdg
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My purpose is to start an intelligent conversation about the possibility that TPTB are manipulating us into thinking that Armageddon is just around the corner because they are planning on crashing the remnants of a crumbling financial system and culling the herd. This could be planned to occur along with natural cycles in the weather, WW3, bioweapons, famine, and a general breakdown in the economic system and social structure of the world. What do you think?

I believe they want us to think that the world is coming to an end so that most of us will go quietly into the night. Then they can start the same thing all over again.

My theory is the world as we know it is definitely coming to an end, however, I believe that a lot of the things going on today are being caused or manipulated by TPTB like the failing economic system, diseases, food shortages, and the belief Armageddon is just around the corner. We have been constantly bombarded with Apocalyptic Movies, Documentaries, News, etc. and WW3 is in the making. I live in the Bible belt and the churches down here are saying we are in the "End Times". Is this a reality or has it been an artificial construct of TPTB coordinated to coincide with natural climatic changes? I believe the later and I believe they are planning on taking humanity into the "Dark Ages II". Then TPTB will rise again from the ashes like the Phoenix and start a similar system all over again. wHAT DO YOU THINK?



HOW BANKERS RIGGED THE FIRST AND WORST, GLOBAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE 650 YRS. AGO AND 1/2 WORLDS POPULATION DIED, "THE DARK AGES"
Thread: HOW BANKERS RIGGED THE FIRST AND WORST, GLOBAL FINACIAL COLLAPSE 650 YRS. AGO AND 1/2 WORLDS POPULATION DIED, "THE DARK AGES"
 Quoting: grefey


Dear Xena, you nailed it !

Because of the internet, it is more and more difficult for them to censor INVENTIONS that could fuck up with their plan/ hegemony:
- Free energy will crush their financial system.
- Exotic propulsion engines (like antigravity) will allow us to escape from this planet (and eventually come back later for revenge)
- Repair our genetic code so we can use 100% of the brain or to live longer (aka wiser)

If they don’t stop the net and kill us quickly, eventually, an invention like that will fuck their plan of “Dark Ages II”. One thing is sure: They don’t like Star Trek

That’s why they are speeding up…

But maybe you are just collecting points for them… Who knows?
bkdg
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LMAO, anyway, I too believe in the potential of all humans. I know that if we are left to solve the many problems facing us we could do it. The present problem is that we are so divided, unaware of what faces us and that TPTB are so good at what they do I don't know what will happen. I do believe we are in the final phase of the End Game to begin big time in the middle east if they successfully get WW3 started.

BTW, I am not interested in playing their game as I have swam against the currents(i.e.- up stream)all my life. I really wish humanity would get it's collective ass together but I don't see it happening as of yet.

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The best threat to Zionists is the free energy, spaceships and super-intelligent people.
Iran, instead of spending so much effort/ambition into the atomics, it could
mobilize his people in the free energy.
That will scare them the most!
bkdg
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The best threat to Zionists is the free energy, spaceships and super-intelligent people.
Iran, instead of spending so much effort/ambition into the atomics, it could
mobilize his people in the free energy.
That will scare them the most!
bkdg
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I wish I could say i think we are winning but I think they have us where they want us, most of us that is. Free energy would be a great thing, however, they have managed to prevent it until now and also prevent the advancement of a helpful health care system. The problem is that not enough people are aware.
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bump
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I guess that even if they will allow this awareness movement to continue another 50 years,
the percentage of the out-of-the-matrix people will remain the same.

In my opinion, this inertia of the masses is due to their low IQ.
It is like we are stuck bellow that IQ threshold point that can take us to the next step.
We could go deeper with this, and mix some ET into the soup...

I don’t understand the fear of the elites about trying the next level?

It is better to be a king over an empire of Dark_Ages or an elite of the Star_Trek ?
bkdg
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No one has any opinions?
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the reality is the media are hiding the religious implications,they dont want people to believe in scripture,they want us to be atheist idol worshippers,thats why they shove idiot pop stars down our throat
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I'm starting to realize that the sheeple are afraid of the truth. They have been lied to about 85% of everything. Some out of ignorance, some to control them. I think alot is just ego, it's a protection against the fear of being wrong. That's why they just attack, attack ,attack, from all angles. They refuse to use common sense and just think for themselves. They just live in a fantasy land, where change does't happen. The internet is waking alot of people up, but they have to stop being afraid of the truth, and just open their eyes, brains, and hearts. Maybe that's why they get so defensive and blindly attack.
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I'm starting to realize that the sheeple are afraid of the truth. They have been lied to about 85% of everything. Some out of ignorance, some to control them. I think alot is just ego, it's a protection against the fear of being wrong. That's why they just attack, attack ,attack, from all angles. They refuse to use common sense and just think for themselves. They just live in a fantasy land, where change does't happen. The internet is waking alot of people up, but they have to stop being afraid of the truth, and just open their eyes, brains, and hearts. Maybe that's why they get so defensive and blindly attack.
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atheists are the worst,they believe in illuminati propaganda(darwins tripe) and ignore scripture
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I'm starting to realize that the sheeple are afraid of the truth. They have been lied to about 85% of everything. Some out of ignorance, some to control them. I think alot is just ego, it's a protection against the fear of being wrong. That's why they just attack, attack ,attack, from all angles. They refuse to use common sense and just think for themselves. They just live in a fantasy land, where change does't happen. The internet is waking alot of people up, but they have to stop being afraid of the truth, and just open their eyes, brains, and hearts. Maybe that's why they get so defensive and blindly attack.
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people who sin cant see Truth,sin makes people stupid
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No one has any opinions?
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the reality is the media are hiding the religious implications,they dont want people to believe in scripture,they want us to be atheist idol worshippers,thats why they shove idiot pop stars down our throat
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My question to you is don't you think the religions have been invented by TPTB to keep us mid controlled and divided. I mean it will play out perfectly for them again as we are going to have another religious war in the very near future. Why do you believe there is truth in the scriptures. Don't you think they have been altered too, just like our history and sciences, corrupted in a way so to speak. I am at the point that I do believe in a god but I will be damned if I know who or what it is.
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Nothing lasts forever, even if something keeps going on millennial timescales, its doom is already assured from its inception. TPTB must know this.
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Almost makes you wonder if all the bible doomers are useful idiots or shills.
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We have all been manipulated to one extreme or another. I personally think all religions are used to manipulate and divide us.
 Quoting: grefey


I think you've hit the nail on the head w/your post and questions.

1. Religions do control people: Christians have 10 commandments they must follow- and of course they're impossible to follow them all- and they chide each other to follow them(just like children telling Nazis about their parents almost), Confucianism is used to control the Chinese as a tenant of their faith is to follow gov't laws. Indians use the caste system, Arabs must submit to Allah or die, etc etc. jewish people must obey Torah or be cast out(no money sad).

2. All the conspiracies lead to we're all dead or something close to it- they include everything to lead to end times for all the religious beliefs..even connecting Native American and Christian teachings to Chinese I-Chang(Ching?) being similar here.

3. Here's a kicker- all churches have been contacted by DHS to have pastors gather their flock WSHTF- they'll have barbed wired etc for large places- stadiums, conference centers w/e u can think of that holds alot of people- and of course they want leaders to gather people. You said you know of churches preaching end times? LOL it's either true or the major Pastors are part of the Pharoahonic leaders wanting to restart the world, and small time churches just can't get past well yeah they seem right.

My take is that either way it's coming and no one can or will stop it. If tribulation happens, and Jesus returns- gr8...if it's all man made- it's gonna happen the same and of course someone descended from the Pharoahs will rule(which they think Jesus was one of them)-it's gonna happen much the same ..they'll just create the tribulation as you say..coupled w/natural disasters..the rest is rather easy to accomplish.
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My question to you is don't you think the religions have been invented by TPTB to keep us mid controlled and divided. I mean it will play out perfectly for them again as we are going to have another religious war in the very near future. Why do you believe there is truth in the scriptures. Don't you think they have been altered too, just like our history and sciences, corrupted in a way so to speak. I am at the point that I do believe in a god but I will be damned if I know who or what it is.
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listen heathen,the illuminati have been trying to detroy faith in the light(God) for thousands of years


The school system is illuminati is it not ?
(they promote atheism)

they teach the youth atheism,darwinsim,soon the heathen will be mass murdering followers of christ and the heathen will be doing the bloodletting(shades of communist Russia)

the illuminati promote sex,pop cultue and atheism you do not see this because you are a sinner and this means the secrets have been locked to YOU
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I'm starting to realize that the sheeple are afraid of the truth. They have been lied to about 85% of everything. Some out of ignorance, some to control them. I think alot is just ego, it's a protection against the fear of being wrong. That's why they just attack, attack ,attack, from all angles. They refuse to use common sense and just think for themselves. They just live in a fantasy land, where change does't happen. The internet is waking alot of people up, but they have to stop being afraid of the truth, and just open their eyes, brains, and hearts. Maybe that's why they get so defensive and blindly attack.
 Quoting: TOMMY B


The problem is we have all been conditioned this way to believe and trust blindly from cradle to grave. It is hard for people to admit they are wrong and change I agree and part is ego and part is fear. This too is a cultural thing and more so in some cultures than others and more difficult w/ males than females I think and this is also cultural. How else do they get people to carry out their ridiculous wars. It amazes me why men and now women continue to join the military after all the horror stories.





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