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IS THERE AN APOCALYPSE CONSPIRACY?

 
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The problem is we have all been conditioned this way to believe and trust blindly from cradle to grave. It is hard for people to admit they are wrong and change I agree and part is ego and part is fear. This too is a cultural thing and more so in some cultures than others and more difficult w/ males than females I think and this is also cultural. How else do they get people to carry out their ridiculous wars. It amazes me why men and now women continue to join the military after all the horror stories.
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the problem is a country like America is since 1950 christian values have been attacked by illuminati media,divorce,family break up,sex outside marriage have resulted in a moral decay and then we get heathen idiots babbling how atheists are the answer when really they are the stink of society,America is on the heathen path that North Korea walks
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My question to you is don't you think the religions have been invented by TPTB to keep us mid controlled and divided. I mean it will play out perfectly for them again as we are going to have another religious war in the very near future. Why do you believe there is truth in the scriptures. Don't you think they have been altered too, just like our history and sciences, corrupted in a way so to speak. I am at the point that I do believe in a god but I will be damned if I know who or what it is.
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listen heathen,the illuminati have been trying to detroy faith in the light(God) for thousands of years


The school system is illuminati is it not ?
(they promote atheism)

they teach the youth atheism,darwinsim,soon the heathen will be mass murdering followers of christ and the heathen will be doing the bloodletting(shades of communist Russia)

the illuminati promote sex,pop cultue and atheism you do not see this because you are a sinner and this means the secrets have been locked to YOU
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Don't get angry with me I wish I could believe in Christ. Actually, I do believe in the Christ Consciousness and believe it is a good thing. The point is most religions have things in them that are good, actually I like Buddhism because it is easier on the mind. Not as much shame and guilt as Christianity. I mean I have read and listened to a lot of things about Christ and Christianity and it would seem that it was all about control when Constantine merged the Roman Empire with the Religion. Hey I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. They do a job on you and I rebelled.
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My purpose is to start an intelligent conversation about the possibility that TPTB are manipulating us into thinking that Armageddon is just around the corner because they are planning on crashing the remnants of a crumbling financial system and culling the herd. This could be planned to occur along with natural cycles in the weather, WW3, bioweapons, famine, and a general breakdown in the economic system and social structure of the world. What do you think?

I believe they want us to think that the world is coming to an end so that most of us will go quietly into the night. Then they can start the same thing all over again.

My theory is the world as we know it is definitely coming to an end, however, I believe that a lot of the things going on today are being caused or manipulated by TPTB like the failing economic system, diseases, food shortages, and the belief Armageddon is just around the corner. We have been constantly bombarded with Apocalyptic Movies, Documentaries, News, etc. and WW3 is in the making. I live in the Bible belt and the churches down here are saying we are in the "End Times". Is this a reality or has it been an artificial construct of TPTB coordinated to coincide with natural climatic changes? I believe the later and I believe they are planning on taking humanity into the "Dark Ages II". Then TPTB will rise again from the ashes like the Phoenix and start a similar system all over again. wHAT DO YOU THINK?



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I'm starting to realize that the sheeple are afraid of the truth. They have been lied to about 85% of everything. Some out of ignorance, some to control them. I think alot is just ego, it's a protection against the fear of being wrong. That's why they just attack, attack ,attack, from all angles. They refuse to use common sense and just think for themselves. They just live in a fantasy land, where change does't happen. The internet is waking alot of people up, but they have to stop being afraid of the truth, and just open their eyes, brains, and hearts. Maybe that's why they get so defensive and blindly attack.
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people who sin cant see Truth,sin makes people stupid
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Everybody sins, but there are people out there who are descent people who don't believe in a religion who sin less than others that do. I know them. Religion is not necessary to lead a moral life as I believe inside us we all have an inner compass that guides us as to right and wrong. The problem is getting through all the BS society has taught us and get in touch with it.
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Don't get angry with me I wish I could believe in Christ. Actually, I do believe in the Christ Consciousness and believe it is a good thing. The point is most religions have things in them that are good, actually I like Buddhism because it is easier on the mind. Not as much shame and guilt as Christianity. I mean I have read and listened to a lot of things about Christ and Christianity and it would seem that it was all about control when Constantine merged the Roman Empire with the Religion. Hey I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. They do a job on you and I rebelled.
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they teach darwinsm in catholic schools,they teach lies,but you never rebelled you were brainwashed,they taught you that atheism doent cause wars(they lied to YOU)dont kid youirself you are no rebel


you were led by the nose and never saw through the lies they told you,christ is in the heart not an illuminati catholic school

btw

Buddism is corrupted,new age hippy buddhists are preachers of atheism,illuminati mind control,just like Opus Dei promotes atheism,illuminati control you,they have blinded you from the light
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atheism is the origin of savagery,all those mass genocides caused by atheists under communism,not to mention genhis Khan,atilla the hun,even the most blood thirsty popes in history were secular(atheist)

I bet that illuminati catholic school you went to never mentioned that while they were BRAINWASHING YOU
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Don't get angry with me I wish I could believe in Christ. Actually, I do believe in the Christ Consciousness and believe it is a good thing. The point is most religions have things in them that are good, actually I like Buddhism because it is easier on the mind. Not as much shame and guilt as Christianity. I mean I have read and listened to a lot of things about Christ and Christianity and it would seem that it was all about control when Constantine merged the Roman Empire with the Religion. Hey I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. They do a job on you and I rebelled.
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they teach darwinsm in catholic schools,they teach lies,but you never rebelled you were brainwashed,they taught you that atheism doent cause wars(they lied to YOU)dont kid youirself you are no rebel


you were led by the nose and never saw through the lies they told you,christ is in the heart not an illuminati catholic school

btw

Buddism is corrupted,new age hippy buddhists are preachers of atheism,illuminati mind control,just like Opus Dei promotes atheism,illuminati control you,they have blinded you from the light
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree at this point. But thanks for your response. BTW I really don't believe in Darwinism. At this point i AM NOT SURE WHAT I BELIEVE IN. I do believe that most people a basically good but have been so traumatized, lied to and confounded that it makes it difficult to go inside and know yourself. It has taken me a lot of pain and time to do it and I am not finished.

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atheism is the origin of savagery,all those mass genocides caused by atheists under communism,not to mention genhis Khan,atilla the hun,even the most blood thirsty popes in history were secular(atheist)

I bet that illuminati catholic school you went to never mentioned that while they were BRAINWASHING YOU
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How many were killed in the Protestant Reformation? Go check your history. That was done by Christians fighting over the same religion.
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THE ARMAGEDDON PLOT

By Fritz Springmeier



The Word of God teaches that there will be a future, visible, personal coming of the Christ who left Palestine approximately 2,000 years ago.



This article exposes a plan to co-opt that teaching so that the satanic hierarchy of the Illuminati can install their own great “Christ”. Their agents have worked both inside and outside of Christendom to co-opt “end-time prophetic” expectations. The Illuminati has encouraged false doctrines within the so-called Christian churches to the point that these false doctrines have become entrenched as religious idols. Many Christian churches have left off their first love (Christ) and are now active agents for supporting Big Brother and idolatry. Other churches have neutralized and neutered Christians so bad they are like salt that has lost its saltiness. Others are unbalanced in their end time doctrines, teaching false doctrines that set the stage for the Illuminati agenda. The net effect of all this, is to place all people in danger of a great end-time Anti-Christ delusion, as well as many minor deceptions.



My approach in presenting this information is to keep this article brief and easy to read. Rather than bog the reader down with Bible verses and complex arguments, I have chosen to touch on several controversial issues only lightly. The only alternative would be to plunge the reader into debates that could fill libraries. I believe that even though I have not attempted to prove all my statements by writing book-length defenses of my statements (and thereby turning this into a book), that the reader will appreciate the article if he or she persists to the end. Before I discuss the Illuminati directly, let me lay the groundwork for how the churches have been neutered.



One of the most dangerous and unscriptural teachings is dispensational pre-millennialism. (One of the problems it presents Bible believers is that it believes in more than one way of salvation—although this scriptural defect is rarely admitted by its promoters.) Many Christians and non-Christians are not even aware of what Dispensational Pre-millennialism is (nor do they care), but most have heard prophetic ministries on television, which warn us what the Bible predicts based on this system of interpretation of the Bible. One way that you can spot this doctrine is that its believers believe that they are going to be raptured because supposedly God doesn’t want them to suffer. (Which is contrary to what He says in His Word.) They will not challenge the evil global dictatorship that continues to tighten its grip on us like a boa constrictor because they are going to be magically whisked away from trouble. (They tell me, “It doesn’t matter what I do, I’m saved and am going to be raptured.”) When good no longer will confront evil, the salt has lost its saltiness. It may be asked why God is leaving saints here on planet earth if they are not to confront Satan’s kingdom? It is no exaggeration for me to say that hundreds of these dispensational pre-millenialists have told me that to fight the New World Order is to fight God. Since when do the people of God acquiesce to evil?



Dispensational pre-millenialists, who are of course double pre-s, believing also in a pretrib rapture, have captured the popular attention of Bible believers today, even though many of the seminaries, which used to teach it have discarded this system due to its proven un-scripturalness. Dispensational Pre-millenialism is associated with its founders the Jesuits, its promoters Darby and Schofield (both lawyers), and its advertisers in our present day, the popular television ministers. Its flexible doctrines lend themselves to sensationalism and emotionalism. Additionally, its promoters have at times been like wolves attacking anyone who would dare not share their multitude of arrogant interpretations.



I write arrogant, because for over 150 years, pre-millenialists have repeatedly been proven wrong by events, their false predictions are quietly forgotten, but their arrogance continues. Just one example of many pre-millenialists would be the Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose original name during the first half of the Watchtower’s history was Bible Students. The Bible Students (from the 1930’s on known as Jehovah’s Witnesses) predicted that the end was coming in 1874, 1878, 1914, the end of W.W. I, 1925, 1940, 1941, Oct. 1975, and then highly likely in 2000. Charles T. Russell was in a white robe on the 6th St. Bridge in Pittsburgh, PA with his followers waiting for the rapture on the Memorial night of Christ’s death in 1878. Later in 1914, they were waiting in the Bethel dining room in Brooklyn, NY to be raptured up.



These dates were presented as “written in stone”. They were advertised as God’s dates, and anyone who suggested that they might not happen was of the devil, an opposer of God, who didn’t believe the Bible. I personally remember Jehovah’s Witnesses who sold their houses and didn’t marry because the Watchtower Society told them the end would be 1975. The problem was that these dates were always portrayed as God’s definite date—let’s exactly quote the Watchtower Society’s portrayal: “…it is beyond the breadth and depth of human thought, and therefore cannot be of human origin [i.e. its God’s date].” “…definitely marked…” “…is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel.” “…Armageddon is very near. It behooves all who love righteousness to put forth every effort to advertise THE THEOCRACY while the privileges are still open.”



What is also very interesting about C.T. Russell and the Watchtower Society which is revealed in three of my books (The Watchtower & the Masons, Be Wise As Serpents, Bloodlines of the Illuminati) is that C.T. Russell came from an Illuminati bloodline, the hierarchy of the WT Society is Illuminati, and that they (the Watchtower Society) received financial support from Jewish financiers, the B’nai B’rith and Freemasonry. Russell himself was a Freemason. The connections between the Illuminati and the Watchtower Society continue to this day.



The Watchtower Society is perhaps the best example of an Armageddon preaching religion and they are Illuminati sponsored. Most groups calling themselves Christian have various ministries that they emphasize such as benevolence, running hospitals etc., but the Jehovah’s Witnesses have all their spiritual eggs in one basket, the preaching of Armageddon.



The Illuminati have also supported other Pre-millenial groups, and their promotion of the Armageddon warning. I have exposed other Freemasons besides C.T. Russell, who are religious leaders, who are also supported by the Illuminati, and who have preached Armageddon. Just one of many is the Freemason William Miller, whose end-time prophecies in the 1840’s caught the attention of many in America and Europe, and helped lay the groundwork for another “end-time” Masonic project, the Bahai religion (now associated with the United Nations).



So the big question is: WHAT DO THE GENERATIONAL SATANIC BLOODLINES HAVE TO GAIN FROM PREACHING WORLDWIDE ABOUT ARMAGEDDON? At first thought, it would seem that they would not want to advertise something from the Bible. But they are and are using many groups and many forms of the same general message. Actually, while Christians have been preaching the “end-times”, so have many of the hard-core occult groups associated with the Illuminati. For instance, Hans Hofer, a Fabian Socialist and student of Fabian Bertrand Russell, has written about the coming Golden Age. The Golden Dawn, a satanic lodge system, is another example of a hard-core occult group warning about Armageddon (for instance their publications This Final War, and Watch Jerusalem). This last decade, the Illuminati gave the green light to finance Hollywood movies that showed natural disasters, so that the public has been inundated by movies about natural disasters of all kinds, (which are often referred to as “the Wrath of God”).



Art Bell’s radio show is a reflection of the popularity of end time predictions and scares. Art Bell uses an Illuminati logo and has said he is a Freemason. All this, as well as his guest list, which is full of Illuminati/CIA agents, suggests that he is sanctioned on the air by the Illuminati. Whatever the case may be, the popularity of his show indicates the mood of the times, which is being encouraged by Illuminati financed broadcasters.



I have written a good number of articles about weather modifications, and the evidence of how many of our natural disasters (famines, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, etc.) are being encouraged by weather modification. There are many avenues that the Illuminati is taking to create the appearance of the end-times. “Appearance” may not be strong enough language for the person who has to endure his home being destroyed by a flood or earthquake. I use this word only to emphasize that problems are being artificially created worldwide.



Indeed, people who I have worked with who I helped out of the Illuminati confirm that the Illuminati do indeed have an agenda to use the concept of Armageddon for their own ends. This returns us to the question, what do they have to gain by scaring us with Scriptures?



Evil is so devious that it has consistently tried to co-opt and control the truth of the Word of God. The men who were behind Christ’s martyrdom were the Bible scholars of his day. These men were occultists. They used the Bible for their own arrogant purposes. Today, within the Illuminati is an arrogance. They have run this planet for hundreds of years. Their occult power has not been seriously challenged or stopped by the God of the Bible. They haven’t seen any lightening bolts from heaven ordering them to stop. Actually there have been a number of strong witnesses of God’s power to these generational satanic families, but in general most of them are too arrogant to accept any witness from God Almighty. In reality, the Illuminati’s power is ultimately that of a paper dragon, but its appearance is very frightening. The point is, the movers and shakers do not have a proper fear of the God of the Bible, so they think they can use the Bible for their own agendas.
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No need to Co-oped christianity, they created it. For the very purposed that many have pointed out on this thread. Some are even praying for the end to come so they can be the ones saved. Its an elites dream come true. The masses praying for extermination and catastrophic events to engulf the world. lol. The dots are fitting together nicely, don't you think. Question is can they make it happen again, as they have in the past. Buckle up could be a bumpy ride from here on in. sk
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more were killed by atheists under communism,tens on millions more,more were killed by Ghengis Khan


let me tell you something about history ,something that your illuminati catholic school failed to mention,all through out history so called religious leaders and many popes were serving a secular agenda,wolves in sheeps clothing,if you had eyes that see you would know this!

why do you think Opus Dei promotes atheism ???
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The illuminati have been attacking christianity for for two thousand years,from outside and by infiltration


The illuminati dont want people to believe in scripture anyone who says other wise is a fool or a LIAR!
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It's not a guessing game.
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atheism is the origin of savagery,all those mass genocides caused by atheists under communism,not to mention genhis Khan,atilla the hun,even the most blood thirsty popes in history were secular(atheist)

I bet that illuminati catholic school you went to never mentioned that while they were BRAINWASHING YOU
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Chill Bro, I am no atheist. I believe in a creator god. I just don't know his name.
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It's not a guessing game.
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Elaborate, please. I need more info.
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www.theforbiddenknowledge.com

THE ARMAGEDDON PLOT

By Fritz Springmeier



The Word of God teaches that there will be a future, visible, personal coming of the Christ who left Palestine approximately 2,000 years ago.



This article exposes a plan to co-opt that teaching so that the satanic hierarchy of the Illuminati can install their own great “Christ”. Their agents have worked both inside and outside of Christendom to co-opt “end-time prophetic” expectations. The Illuminati has encouraged false doctrines within the so-called Christian churches to the point that these false doctrines have become entrenched as religious idols. Many Christian churches have left off their first love (Christ) and are now active agents for supporting Big Brother and idolatry. Other churches have neutralized and neutered Christians so bad they are like salt that has lost its saltiness. Others are unbalanced in their end time doctrines, teaching false doctrines that set the stage for the Illuminati agenda. The net effect of all this, is to place all people in danger of a great end-time Anti-Christ delusion, as well as many minor deceptions.



My approach in presenting this information is to keep this article brief and easy to read. Rather than bog the reader down with Bible verses and complex arguments, I have chosen to touch on several controversial issues only lightly. The only alternative would be to plunge the reader into debates that could fill libraries. I believe that even though I have not attempted to prove all my statements by writing book-length defenses of my statements (and thereby turning this into a book), that the reader will appreciate the article if he or she persists to the end. Before I discuss the Illuminati directly, let me lay the groundwork for how the churches have been neutered.



One of the most dangerous and unscriptural teachings is dispensational pre-millennialism. (One of the problems it presents Bible believers is that it believes in more than one way of salvation—although this scriptural defect is rarely admitted by its promoters.) Many Christians and non-Christians are not even aware of what Dispensational Pre-millennialism is (nor do they care), but most have heard prophetic ministries on television, which warn us what the Bible predicts based on this system of interpretation of the Bible. One way that you can spot this doctrine is that its believers believe that they are going to be raptured because supposedly God doesn’t want them to suffer. (Which is contrary to what He says in His Word.) They will not challenge the evil global dictatorship that continues to tighten its grip on us like a boa constrictor because they are going to be magically whisked away from trouble. (They tell me, “It doesn’t matter what I do, I’m saved and am going to be raptured.”) When good no longer will confront evil, the salt has lost its saltiness. It may be asked why God is leaving saints here on planet earth if they are not to confront Satan’s kingdom? It is no exaggeration for me to say that hundreds of these dispensational pre-millenialists have told me that to fight the New World Order is to fight God. Since when do the people of God acquiesce to evil?



Dispensational pre-millenialists, who are of course double pre-s, believing also in a pretrib rapture, have captured the popular attention of Bible believers today, even though many of the seminaries, which used to teach it have discarded this system due to its proven un-scripturalness. Dispensational Pre-millenialism is associated with its founders the Jesuits, its promoters Darby and Schofield (both lawyers), and its advertisers in our present day, the popular television ministers. Its flexible doctrines lend themselves to sensationalism and emotionalism. Additionally, its promoters have at times been like wolves attacking anyone who would dare not share their multitude of arrogant interpretations.



I write arrogant, because for over 150 years, pre-millenialists have repeatedly been proven wrong by events, their false predictions are quietly forgotten, but their arrogance continues. Just one example of many pre-millenialists would be the Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose original name during the first half of the Watchtower’s history was Bible Students. The Bible Students (from the 1930’s on known as Jehovah’s Witnesses) predicted that the end was coming in 1874, 1878, 1914, the end of W.W. I, 1925, 1940, 1941, Oct. 1975, and then highly likely in 2000. Charles T. Russell was in a white robe on the 6th St. Bridge in Pittsburgh, PA with his followers waiting for the rapture on the Memorial night of Christ’s death in 1878. Later in 1914, they were waiting in the Bethel dining room in Brooklyn, NY to be raptured up.



These dates were presented as “written in stone”. They were advertised as God’s dates, and anyone who suggested that they might not happen was of the devil, an opposer of God, who didn’t believe the Bible. I personally remember Jehovah’s Witnesses who sold their houses and didn’t marry because the Watchtower Society told them the end would be 1975. The problem was that these dates were always portrayed as God’s definite date—let’s exactly quote the Watchtower Society’s portrayal: “…it is beyond the breadth and depth of human thought, and therefore cannot be of human origin [i.e. its God’s date].” “…definitely marked…” “…is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel.” “…Armageddon is very near. It behooves all who love righteousness to put forth every effort to advertise THE THEOCRACY while the privileges are still open.”



What is also very interesting about C.T. Russell and the Watchtower Society which is revealed in three of my books (The Watchtower & the Masons, Be Wise As Serpents, Bloodlines of the Illuminati) is that C.T. Russell came from an Illuminati bloodline, the hierarchy of the WT Society is Illuminati, and that they (the Watchtower Society) received financial support from Jewish financiers, the B’nai B’rith and Freemasonry. Russell himself was a Freemason. The connections between the Illuminati and the Watchtower Society continue to this day.



The Watchtower Society is perhaps the best example of an Armageddon preaching religion and they are Illuminati sponsored. Most groups calling themselves Christian have various ministries that they emphasize such as benevolence, running hospitals etc., but the Jehovah’s Witnesses have all their spiritual eggs in one basket, the preaching of Armageddon.



The Illuminati have also supported other Pre-millenial groups, and their promotion of the Armageddon warning. I have exposed other Freemasons besides C.T. Russell, who are religious leaders, who are also supported by the Illuminati, and who have preached Armageddon. Just one of many is the Freemason William Miller, whose end-time prophecies in the 1840’s caught the attention of many in America and Europe, and helped lay the groundwork for another “end-time” Masonic project, the Bahai religion (now associated with the United Nations).



So the big question is: WHAT DO THE GENERATIONAL SATANIC BLOODLINES HAVE TO GAIN FROM PREACHING WORLDWIDE ABOUT ARMAGEDDON? At first thought, it would seem that they would not want to advertise something from the Bible. But they are and are using many groups and many forms of the same general message. Actually, while Christians have been preaching the “end-times”, so have many of the hard-core occult groups associated with the Illuminati. For instance, Hans Hofer, a Fabian Socialist and student of Fabian Bertrand Russell, has written about the coming Golden Age. The Golden Dawn, a satanic lodge system, is another example of a hard-core occult group warning about Armageddon (for instance their publications This Final War, and Watch Jerusalem). This last decade, the Illuminati gave the green light to finance Hollywood movies that showed natural disasters, so that the public has been inundated by movies about natural disasters of all kinds, (which are often referred to as “the Wrath of God”).



Art Bell’s radio show is a reflection of the popularity of end time predictions and scares. Art Bell uses an Illuminati logo and has said he is a Freemason. All this, as well as his guest list, which is full of Illuminati/CIA agents, suggests that he is sanctioned on the air by the Illuminati. Whatever the case may be, the popularity of his show indicates the mood of the times, which is being encouraged by Illuminati financed broadcasters.



I have written a good number of articles about weather modifications, and the evidence of how many of our natural disasters (famines, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, etc.) are being encouraged by weather modification. There are many avenues that the Illuminati is taking to create the appearance of the end-times. “Appearance” may not be strong enough language for the person who has to endure his home being destroyed by a flood or earthquake. I use this word only to emphasize that problems are being artificially created worldwide.



Indeed, people who I have worked with who I helped out of the Illuminati confirm that the Illuminati do indeed have an agenda to use the concept of Armageddon for their own ends. This returns us to the question, what do they have to gain by scaring us with Scriptures?



Evil is so devious that it has consistently tried to co-opt and control the truth of the Word of God. The men who were behind Christ’s martyrdom were the Bible scholars of his day. These men were occultists. They used the Bible for their own arrogant purposes. Today, within the Illuminati is an arrogance. They have run this planet for hundreds of years. Their occult power has not been seriously challenged or stopped by the God of the Bible. They haven’t seen any lightening bolts from heaven ordering them to stop. Actually there have been a number of strong witnesses of God’s power to these generational satanic families, but in general most of them are too arrogant to accept any witness from God Almighty. In reality, the Illuminati’s power is ultimately that of a paper dragon, but its appearance is very frightening. The point is, the movers and shakers do not have a proper fear of the God of the Bible, so they think they can use the Bible for their own agendas.
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No need to Co-oped christianity, they created it. For the very purposed that many have pointed out on this thread. Some are even praying for the end to come so they can be the ones saved. Its an elites dream come true. The masses praying for extermination and catastrophic events to engulf the world. lol. The dots are fitting together nicely, don't you think. Question is can they make it happen again, as they have in the past. Buckle up could be a bumpy ride from here on in. sk
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bump

How true.
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It's not a guessing game.
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i am not guessing,the scriptures are True

with True faith you actually know!
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Op if you think the illuminati want people to believe in the end of days you are BLIND

99% of people dont even know about the verichip,they dont know about plans for world goverment because they are to busy watching illuminati drivel like pop idol
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No one has any opinions?
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the reality is the media are hiding the religious implications,they dont want people to believe in scripture,they want us to be atheist idol worshippers,thats why they shove idiot pop stars down our throat
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My question to you is don't you think the religions have been invented by TPTB to keep us mid controlled and divided. I mean it will play out perfectly for them again as we are going to have another religious war in the very near future. Why do you believe there is truth in the scriptures. Don't you think they have been altered too, just like our history and sciences, corrupted in a way so to speak. I am at the point that I do believe in a god but I will be damned if I know who or what it is.
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It's really sad that religion has confused you about who and what God is like. We have a sure word of testimony in the Bible that has endured throughout the ages. Even when the Roman Catholic Church tried to stomp it out, still truth prevailed. Perseverence is the mark of truth; it endures while lies tend to fade with the men who created them.

Jesus Christ set the example of what the Creator wished for humanity. Jesus Christ is what each believer is suppose to look like, what each true believer is to be like, and what each believer is suppose to have in the realm of power. "But you shall receive power after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you." Power to overcome sin, the "flesh" and the devil.But we both know that to find someone like this is rare.

I am a "Biblical Christian", I do not attend any organized institution of "church". I am however a targeted individual, heavily persecuted by the established "Powers that be". I had a ministry that tried to help generational Satanists escape the cult. In that ministry I met a woman who claimed to be "Satanic royalty". I believe that she was because my life turned into a living hell shortly afterward. But I learned so much about TPTB from being close to her for 5 years, that some of what you have presented is the truth. But all truth must be interpreted in the context of purity, it cannot be mixed with lies, or it no longer is the truth, but then turns into deception. And unfortunately that is what you are doing, mixing the truth and the lie.

I do not feel my job is to be your "correcter" you must search for the truth on your own, and find it on your own. I will say that you are close, but you are also mixing powerful spiritual ideologies and that can and will become a stumblingblock to you in the future. I pray that you find the truth and that the truth shall set you free.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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It's not a guessing game.
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i am not guessing,the scriptures are True

with True faith you actually know!
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Was it not Christ who said the kingdom of heaven is w/in. Well, go inside and you won't need scripture, its all there. Like I said it is just very hard to get through all of the BS TPTB have programed us with.
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It's not a guessing game.
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I'm just saying theories are great but facts are better.

Stop guessing.
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It's not a guessing game.
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i am not guessing,the scriptures are True

with True faith you actually know!
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No. You don't. That's why it's called faith. That's why you feel the need to call it "true" faith. Because you KNOW, you don't know.
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No one has any opinions?
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the reality is the media are hiding the religious implications,they dont want people to believe in scripture,they want us to be atheist idol worshippers,thats why they shove idiot pop stars down our throat
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1496863


My question to you is don't you think the religions have been invented by TPTB to keep us mid controlled and divided. I mean it will play out perfectly for them again as we are going to have another religious war in the very near future. Why do you believe there is truth in the scriptures. Don't you think they have been altered too, just like our history and sciences, corrupted in a way so to speak. I am at the point that I do believe in a god but I will be damned if I know who or what it is.
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It's really sad that religion has confused you about who and what God is like. We have a sure word of testimony in the Bible that has endured throughout the ages. Even when the Roman Catholic Church tried to stomp it out, still truth prevailed. Perseverence is the mark of truth; it endures while lies tend to fade with the men who created them.

Jesus Christ set the example of what the Creator wished for humanity. Jesus Christ is what each believer is suppose to look like, what each true believer is to be like, and what each believer is suppose to have in the realm of power. "But you shall receive power after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you." Power to overcome sin, the "flesh" and the devil.But we both know that to find someone like this is rare.

I am a "Biblical Christian", I do not attend any organized institution of "church". I am however a targeted individual, heavily persecuted by the established "Powers that be". I had a ministry that tried to help generational Satanists escape the cult. In that ministry I met a woman who claimed to be "Satanic royalty". I believe that she was because my life turned into a living hell shortly afterward. But I learned so much about TPTB from being close to her for 5 years, that some of what you have presented is the truth. But all truth must be interpreted in the context of purity, it cannot be mixed with lies, or it no longer is the truth, but then turns into deception. And unfortunately that is what you are doing, mixing the truth and the lie.

I do not feel my job is to be your "correcter" you must search for the truth on your own, and find it on your own. I will say that you are close, but you are also mixing powerful spiritual ideologies and that can and will become a stumblingblock to you in the future. I pray that you find the truth and that the truth shall set you free.
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I am listening. I have no intent to spread lies, there is already too many out there. I would be interested in hearing what you have to say, as it is only fair. Whether or not I accept it is on me. So please elaborate.

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the fact is... with eyes that can see you can unlock secrets


most people who go to church are just listening to a babbling idiot,the church is not warning about vaccines,most people who go to church are being told to support world goverment,the church will tell people to take theverichip,the illuminati controll the church covertly but that doesnt change the Truth of the scriptures but you need eyes that can see to understand!

Trust me when i tell you that the last thing the illuminati want is for people to understand and see the prophecy

look at the people,they are being enslaved,its warned about in prophecy,but they have eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear,you are one of these Op(for now)
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No. You don't. That's why it's called faith. That's why you feel the need to call it "true" faith. Because you KNOW, you don't know.
 Quoting: Lumen


i do know actually,i know that atheism is the illuminati mind control system as well


we are in a spiritual war and atheism blinds people from the light
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Op if you think the illuminati want people to believe in the end of days you are BLIND

99% of people dont even know about the verichip,they dont know about plans for world goverment because they are to busy watching illuminati drivel like pop idol
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There has been nothing but apocalyptic messages in movies, on TV in documentaries, TV series, movies and on the news for about 5 years now and it's increasing. Have you not noticed they are doing psy. warefare on us w/ regards to this subject. My question is why? There has to be a plan.
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It's not a guessing game.
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i am not guessing,the scriptures are True

with True faith you actually know!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1496863


Was it not Christ who said the kingdom of heaven is w/in. Well, go inside and you won't need scripture, its all there. Like I said it is just very hard to get through all of the BS TPTB have programed us with.
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Totally agree with your first sentence. The true essence of spirituality can be found right there inside you. But it's a hard road, it takes practice and perseverance to reach those altered states.

As for TPTB, you won't find those answers inside. Lol and as for looking elsewhere, there are far two many twists and turns to ever know what's really going on.

How many times have you thought you'd found an answer only to second guess yourself? "maybe TPTB want me to believe this?"

The old conspiracy within a conspiracy.
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No. You don't. That's why it's called faith. That's why you feel the need to call it "true" faith. Because you KNOW, you don't know.
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i do know actually,i know that atheism is the illuminati mind control system as well


we are in a spiritual war and atheism blinds people from the light
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And you read that in the scriptures did ya?
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for every movie about the end of days a thousand are made that promotes sex and depravity....

The illuminati always put the Truth in open view but at the same time drown the reality in a sea of confusion!

The reality is 99% of people dont have a clue,if the illuminati wanted people to know they would know but that is not happening is it ?
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the fact is... with eyes that can see you can unlock secrets


most people who go to church are just listening to a babbling idiot,the church is not warning about vaccines,most people who go to church are being told to support world goverment,the church will tell people to take theverichip,the illuminati controll the church covertly but that doesnt change the Truth of the scriptures but you need eyes that can see to understand!

Trust me when i tell you that the last thing the illuminati want is for people to understand and see the prophecy

look at the people,they are being enslaved,its warned about in prophecy,but they have eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear,you are one of these Op(for now)
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What if they were the one's that created the prophecy to begin with. Don't you think the bible has been corrupted. Do you think King James told the whole truth, what about the council of Neicia(sp?)do you trust the Popes to have put the right scriptures into the bible. If you do you have more trust than I do.
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And you read that in the scriptures did ya?
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it comes from the minds eye





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