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BREAKING - US War Game Sees Peril for the USA - Get Ready for the Samson Option !

 
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" U.S. War Game Sees Perils of Israeli Strike Against Iran"


March 19, 2012


" WASHINGTON — A classified war simulation held this month to assess the repercussions of an Israeli attack on Iran forecasts that the strike would lead to a wider regional war, which could draw in the United States and leave hundreds of Americans dead, according to American officials. "

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"... the game has raised fears among top American planners that it may be impossible to preclude American involvement in any escalating confrontation with Iran, the officials said. In the debate among policy makers over the consequences of any Israeli attack, that reaction may give stronger voice to those in the White House, Pentagon and intelligence community who have warned that a strike could prove perilous for the United States. "



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The info below did not originate with me.
It was posted on a forum many years ago.
A few minutes after this post was posted,
it was deleted... but not before I copied it.



Samson Option & US War Game Theory:



" WW said:

'...Do you recall a news report earlier this week
where Israel admitted to having an arsenal of FOUR
HUNDRED NUCLEAR WEAPONS?...'


My work indicates that Israel has about twice that
number.

What I am still intellectually working on is IF Israel
basically kills a billion or so people in a First
Strike what will the US do (and Russia and China)?

If we let Israel do that then Nuclear Deterence is
dead and First Strike Rules.

I know the US Military has thought about this issue
somewhat.

Our War Plans do anticipate an Israeli strike against
the US with Nuclear Weapon as a way to forestall us
punishing them for engaging in a massive First Strike
Option. This situation is one that is NOT discussed in
public, but one that has been extensively discussed
behind the scenes. A number of US Military planners
think that immediately after an Israeli First Strike
against it's enemies, if it thought it would be
punished, will then launch a First Strike against the
US and also Russia.

It is a real can of worms.

Intellectually Israel realizes that a massive First
Strike that kills a billion people or so WILL PROBABLY
REQUIRE the big powers to take it out too...and thus
intelligence indicates that it has planned for a First
Strike against the US in addition (and by assumption
against Russia).

What a nightmare.

People who do not understand the Game Theory behind
Nuclear War probably will just scream at me for
posting this...but this is solid game theory as
nuclear war has been strategized for decades.

Heaven help everyone...even those of us in the US if
Israel launches a massive First Strike against a
billion people...since the US will be next on it's
list of targets....the GAME calls for it."




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Another quote from the NY Times news article:


" General Mattis told aides that an Israeli first strike would be likely to have dire consequences across the region and for United States forces there."



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THIS is a must read article !!



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excellent work man!
Thank you :)
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Here is the last paragraph in the article...
the terrorist j e w state has put the world...
and especially the US war gamers... on notice,
their j e w rogue state will survive no matter
who else is destroyed !!


" “A war is no picnic,” Defense Minister Ehud Barak told Israel Radio in November.
But if Israel feels itself forced into action, the retaliation would be bearable,
he said. “There will not be 100,000 dead or 10,000 dead or 1,000 dead.
The state of Israel will not be destroyed.”
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Do-you-want-to-play-a-game?
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pinthis


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" Heaven help everyone... even those of us in the US...
if Israel launches a massive First Strike against a billion people...
since the US will be next on it's list of targets... the GAME calls for it. "




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Do-you-want-to-play-a-game?
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Yes, how about global-thermal-nuclear-war?

I don't fancy a nice game of chess today
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Be the change you want the World to be. Be with someone that makes you happy.
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One day little satan will go too far and Big Satan will not be there to watch it's back.

Little satan knows this which is why Big Satan is also on little satan's hit list.



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This needs to be pinned.

All I need is one more karma and I can pin it myself.



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OP : your comment about the Samspon option and the US war game theroy is really interesting !

Suggest pin and Karma !
The human mind: a ferret who is feared
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Thank you, Terviseks, I was able to pin it. :)



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They are that crazy. What a disgusting group of human animals.
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This NY Times article tells me there is a growing rift
between the US and their sponsored j e w state.

US officials are beginning to face the reality that the
rogue j e w state they have fostered for decades is a
loose cannon that has the nuclear potential to destroy
the USA and the rest of the world.



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The info below did not originate with me.
It was posted on a forum many years ago.
A few minutes after this post was posted,
it was deleted... but not before I copied it.



Samson Option & US War Game Theory:



" WW said:

'...Do you recall a news report earlier this week
where Israel admitted to having an arsenal of FOUR
HUNDRED NUCLEAR WEAPONS?...'


My work indicates that Israel has about twice that
number.

What I am still intellectually working on is IF Israel
basically kills a billion or so people in a First
Strike what will the US do (and Russia and China)?

If we let Israel do that then Nuclear Deterence is
dead and First Strike Rules.

I know the US Military has thought about this issue
somewhat.

Our War Plans do anticipate an Israeli strike against
the US with Nuclear Weapon as a way to forestall us
punishing them for engaging in a massive First Strike
Option. This situation is one that is NOT discussed in
public, but one that has been extensively discussed
behind the scenes. A number of US Military planners
think that immediately after an Israeli First Strike
against it's enemies, if it thought it would be
punished, will then launch a First Strike against the
US and also Russia.

It is a real can of worms.

Intellectually Israel realizes that a massive First
Strike that kills a billion people or so WILL PROBABLY
REQUIRE the big powers to take it out too...and thus
intelligence indicates that it has planned for a First
Strike against the US in addition (and by assumption
against Russia).

What a nightmare.

People who do not understand the Game Theory behind
Nuclear War probably will just scream at me for
posting this...but this is solid game theory as
nuclear war has been strategized for decades.

Heaven help everyone...even those of us in the US if
Israel launches a massive First Strike against a
billion people...since the US will be next on it's
list of targets....the GAME calls for it."




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So they leak this horsecrap to the media and GLP tards shit their pants.

Classic case how brainwashed GLP idiots are easy to manipulate and have no clue what the term "psyops" means.


propoganda
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Samson Option:


" The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.

Israel refuses to admit it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as "nuclear opacity." This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to definitively describe its true nuclear policy, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments. "


[link to en.wikipedia.org]



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Don't forget... the USS Enterprise is now on it's last mission near the potential war zone.




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March 10, 2012


Legendary USS Enterprise carrier to make final voyage


" The Enterprise is heading to the Middle East on its seven-month deployment,
where it will be on standby in case of conflict with Iran.... "


[link to www.usatoday.com]



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So they leak this horsecrap to the media and GLP tards shit their pants.

Classic case how brainwashed GLP idiots are easy to manipulate and have no clue what the term "psyops" means.


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The same can be said about your view on this.
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people who live in a house of glass shouldnt start a game of rocks. If America lost something simple, like the electrical grid, the effects are devastating. No pumps no water or fuel for that matter. No lights no refrigeration. Blower on your heater doesnt work so house freezes. No traffic lights or elevators or subways. The list is endless
If mankind cant learn how to cooperate and live in peace it is done - over - finished.
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Don't forget... the USS Enterprise is now on it's last mission near the potential war zone.




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sinking of the Maine all over again
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So they leak this horsecrap to the media and GLP tards shit their pants.

Classic case how brainwashed GLP idiots are easy to manipulate and have no clue what the term "psyops" means.


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The same can be said about your view on this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


Believe the media you read as truth, then and stay at the bottom of the food. Game theory ate your iq.
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Vladimir Putin knows a 'Samson option' would hit Russia.



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What if, this is all a pre-written screenplay and the US is ambushed. Sounds like it has the potential for a powerful Broadway performance! Cirque de la bomba de Los Estados Unidos! 3D/HI DEF/IMAX/ELE
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how many nukes do you think Israel really has?

Russia has officially somewhere around 15,000 incl the stockpiles that are not on alert. Unofficially, another several thousand tactical nukes, mines, shells, that Robert Gates talked about that "even they (the Russians) do not how many and where they are". So let say somewhere around 20,000 total. Yes the number is much bigger than the declared STRATEGIC weapons on alert status ready for launch, that are in thousands only.

India and Pakistan build up at fast speed. Also does China.

So whom should Israel strike if what is written above is correct? And with how many nukes - thousands?

I don't think the expressed view of Israel danger N1 is realistic. It is suicidal. More realistic are other scenarios. For ex. regional war that goes wider, and at one moment one of the superpowers strikes the other. The Soviet doctrine was for a winnable nuclear war - pls check internet it is there. VRYAN surprise attack etc.
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Remember the Maine = Spanish-American War

Remember the Lusitania = World War 1

Remember the USS Liberty = Six Day War



" The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. "


[link to en.wikipedia.org]




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" U.S. War Game Sees Perils of Israeli Strike Against Iran"


March 19, 2012


" WASHINGTON — A classified war simulation held this month to assess the repercussions of an Israeli attack on Iran forecasts that the strike would lead to a wider regional war, which could draw in the United States and leave hundreds of Americans dead, according to American officials. "

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