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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12018334  United States03/20/2012 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets face it - the whole point of having a nuclear bomb is to prevent a war due to the fear of any retalitory actions against the attacker. Been that way since WWII. Quoting: IJumpInIt Now, given that Prez Imma-Dinna-Jacket has openly vowed to destroy another country - whether you like that country or not - tells anyone else he has motive to attack. Now he has the means. Pick any country and say their prez made the same threat to another country. Do you not think the targeted country would not be on the defense? In the same way the OP has voiced his anger to any attack - does he not see Israel feels the same way? As for who would 'win' - nobody would due to the world upheaval caused. Everyone loses in war, some more than others, but they all lose. The sad part is even though both sides have their ideals which happen to be different, in the end everyone will lose. The Iranian people have as little control over their Prez as we do over ours - none. It is the governments which will start a war - not the people, however it is their people who will pay the price for not reaching a compromise. If Iran is 'attacked', losses will not be contained to only Iran as any left-leaning Muslim around the globe will go on a jihad against those from the attacking country. So what can be done to prevent a war? Prove to the world - not just the USA but the world - they can be trusted with a nuclear device, be it a energy plant or bombs. Without that, we will continue down this path of drumbeating for war. .02  YOU dear one, have bought the media story, hook line and sinker. Amadinajad never said any such thing and has not said any such thing in recent videos' either. You are looking at made for TV and Internet bologna and propaganda. Just like all that made up about Gaddafi too. And I can assure you, the important people of this world KNOW that Iran is not intending Nuclear weapon making and you can tell that from watching to CNN in fact, the way they wag back and forth. We want Iran destroyed for reasons have nothing to do with Nuclear even. One of those, is they will not join the NWO. Another reason is their wealth. If, as you claim that Amadinajad did not say to 'wipe Israel off the map' then explain this which not only refutes but debunks your claim - pictures from within Iran saying "Israel should be wiped out of the face of the world" - page 13 - [link to www.jcpa.org] The argument of 'lost in translation' is totally debunked by the above evidence. Sadly, the many differences between our cultres and Governments who lie to their people will be what starts any war. If only we could each not be so threatening against the other despite differences and just 'let each other be'. If only the religous folk would stop trying to force others to follow them then maybe we could respect each other. Tragic. .02 what else would YOU expect at your link from the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and Joshua Teitelbaum? this does not prove anything, this is propaganda. DELIBERATE NOW go online and see if you can find a proper translation from the farsi of that speech and others. Ahmadinejad never said that. I had one on my older computer, I had them all in proper farsi. I don't remember the exact proper translation now, but it was more along the lines of the Zionist influence must be contended with by the truth. I am so tired of always going over these things. You can learn to think, or NOT, your choice. As to pics, in the day and age of our technology, thugs can make up anything in film, adulterate it in any way and because its an image, which says a thousand words, people will NOT THINK. It works very well, and even better when moving images come into play and people see the deception even less. Reading words implants better than images, in terms of people actually thinking. You must learn to think, each of you for yourselves and not accept blindly everything put in front of you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12878688 United States03/20/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fighting fire with fire is rational, game theory predicts the outcome, and it is an all out regional war. Hence why the US/Israel doesn't need to "test" this scenario. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12878688 Babe, we been on the ground since 2003. It's already an all out regional war. Been going on for years. Won't end til Iran. I think we all know that. Since before that, try the Twin Pillars doctrine, starting the regional war when we (US) reniged on our alliance with Iran. I thinkif it comes to war with Iran, militarily we MIGHT win, but in a war of technology, I am thinking we we lose. Bruce Bueno de Mesquita's book Principles Of International Politics predicts the US to lose ( as in it is not in our best interests- the costs of war outweigh the benefits)in war with Iran. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7612693 United States03/20/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, The God Factor. The illuminati must not believe He exists or else they would never undertake this evil. Yet they have. They want one world government. They want total power and domination. YWHW will win. This battle is already decided and the King is already waiting. We await His return. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12878688 United States03/20/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? Saudi is siding with Saudi. What is in their best interest? They said they will proliferate if Iran does...they do not want to be left out of the power balancing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7612693 United States03/20/2012 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? Saudi is siding with Saudi. What is in their best interest? They said they will proliferate if Iran does...they do not want to be left out of the power balancing. I figure TPTB will take out the House of Saud about the time they take out the power structure of Iran. They will want total control of the oil. They lust after it now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12878688 United States03/20/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? Saudi is siding with Saudi. What is in their best interest? They said they will proliferate if Iran does...they do not want to be left out of the power balancing. I figure TPTB will take out the House of Saud about the time they take out the power structure of Iran. They will want total control of the oil. They lust after it now. That could be the purpose...all for oil and power in MENA states. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12794483  Canada03/20/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on people... "But the actual quote, which comes from an old speech of Khomeini, does not imply military action, or killing anyone at all. The second reason is that it is just an inexact translation. The phrase is almost metaphysical. He quoted Khomeini that “the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time.” It is in fact probably a reference to some phrase in a medieval Persian poem. It is not about tanks." [link to www.juancole.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7612693 United States03/20/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should never sit on something like oil that is worth more than you are. I figure that's why we in America are doing good to own a few square feet of land and houses that are going to be worthless in a few years. We just hope that we are worth more than our land to the government. After 2008, I think the gov will choose the land. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4274302 United States03/20/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran has been talking shit for how many years now? Time to put up or shut up is close. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4274302 Americans and Israelis have been talking shit for how many decades now??? we don't play the aggressor here, we only defend Who has threatened who? You dont sound to sure to me! If Iran can kick everyones ass like they claim more power to them . Personally I dont believe it. They keep talking they can. It sounds like they will get their chance to show what they have. Good luck. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5302444  Turkey03/20/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? if america goes to war with iran it will implode just like what happened to the soviets nukes are useless |
einsteinsfly  User ID: 12686317 United States03/20/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, then what kind of Iran do you want, Radical. Quoting: FierySky I would remind you that so many young men and women supported the revolution back in the 70's to remove the Shah and supported Khomeni, but in the end, lots of them were executed for their trouble. What kind of Iran are you willing to fight for and who do you have to fight to have it? An IRAN that could show the world that ISRAEL & U.S DONT OWN THE GOD DAMN WORLD! The Zion Bankers, Zion Media Moguls, Zion Politicians, Zion Crown, Zion Governments and Zion controlled VATICAN ALL AROUND THE WORLD own the world. They have infiltrated every nook and cranny like a deadly fungus. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12878688 United States03/20/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran has been talking shit for how many years now? Time to put up or shut up is close. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4274302 Americans and Israelis have been talking shit for how many decades now??? we don't play the aggressor here, we only defend Who has threatened who? You dont sound to sure to me! If Iran can kick everyones ass like they claim more power to them . Personally I dont believe it. They keep talking they can. It sounds like they will get their chance to show what they have. Good luck. Man, you are ignorant. They are not the ones talking shit, the US/Israel nations do not want Iran to kill the NPT, because if it is dead then another treaty will have to be made, and if that is the case, then, Israel WILL HAVE TO BE A PARTY TO THAT, of which they are not at this moment, they are a NON-DECLARED NUCLEAR WEAPONS POWER. |
| Anubis User ID: 1395589 Canada03/20/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Zion Bankers, Zion Media Moguls, Zion Politicians, Zion Crown, Zion Governments and Zion controlled VATICAN ALL AROUND THE WORLD own the world. They have infiltrated every nook and cranny like a deadly fungus. Quoting: einsteinsfly except a curiously small list of countries: As of the year 2000, there were seven countries without a Rothschild-owned Central Bank: Afghanistan Iraq Sudan Libya Cuba North Korea Iran Then along came the convenient terror of 9-11 and soon Iraq and Afghanistan had been added to the list, leaving only five countries without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family: Sudan Libya Cuba North Korea Iran We all know how fast the Central Bank of Benghazi was set up. The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are: Cuba North Korea Iran ( shamelessly pasted from this original thread: Thread: Only 3 countries left w/o ROTHSCHILD Central Bank! ) Last Edited by Anubis on 03/20/2012 11:08 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12018334 United States03/20/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on people... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12794483 "But the actual quote, which comes from an old speech of Khomeini, does not imply military action, or killing anyone at all. The second reason is that it is just an inexact translation. The phrase is almost metaphysical. He quoted Khomeini that “the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time.” It is in fact probably a reference to some phrase in a medieval Persian poem. It is not about tanks." [link to www.juancole.com] thankyou. that is at least closer to what I can't fully remember from the copy on old deaded computer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7612693 United States03/20/2012 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? if america goes to war with iran it will implode just like what happened to the soviets nukes are useless You know what's interesting about this entire conversation this evening. It's not what we have said, it's what hasn't been said. Have you noticed that you are getting very little resistance from Americans? Doesn't that strike you as strange? Who are we talking about coming after you-don't you hear the 3rd person references and the talk about who is after the oil? Who are they? Is it your average American citizen? You haven't even been threatened by an American this evening-not really like one would expect to have happen in this kind of a confrontation. Ask yourself why this is and what we have been telling you. You keep coming back with anger and threats, but we tell you-we cannot stop what is going to happen, we can't prevent it and we have no power whatsoever over this war machine. We have admitted that America is in her dying days-we know that. So think. Whose side are you playing on? That's what you really need to decide.Who is your enemy? Figure it out. Who is really your friend? |
| einsteinsfly User ID: 12686317 United States03/20/2012 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? if america goes to war with iran it will implode just like what happened to the soviets nukes are useless You know what's interesting about this entire conversation this evening. It's not what we have said, it's what hasn't been said. Have you noticed that you are getting very little resistance from Americans? Doesn't that strike you as strange? Who are we talking about coming after you-don't you hear the 3rd person references and the talk about who is after the oil? Who are they? Is it your average American citizen? You haven't even been threatened by an American this evening-not really like one would expect to have happen in this kind of a confrontation. Ask yourself why this is and what we have been telling you. You keep coming back with anger and threats, but we tell you-we cannot stop what is going to happen, we can't prevent it and we have no power whatsoever over this war machine. We have admitted that America is in her dying days-we know that. So think. Whose side are you playing on? That's what you really need to decide.Who is your enemy? Figure it out. Who is really your friend? This is the kind of insight I wish more citizens of the world would represent. The people of a country are not the government of their country. Once upon a time, yes. Those days are long over. One's government is the enemy of it's own citizens, sadly. Last Edited by einsteinsfly on 03/20/2012 11:16 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4274302 United States03/20/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran has been talking shit for how many years now? Time to put up or shut up is close. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4274302 Americans and Israelis have been talking shit for how many decades now??? we don't play the aggressor here, we only defend Who has threatened who? You dont sound to sure to me! If Iran can kick everyones ass like they claim more power to them . Personally I dont believe it. They keep talking they can. It sounds like they will get their chance to show what they have. Good luck. Man, you are ignorant. They are not the ones talking shit, the US/Israel nations do not want Iran to kill the NPT, because if it is dead then another treaty will have to be made, and if that is the case, then, Israel WILL HAVE TO BE A PARTY TO THAT, of which they are not at this moment, they are a NON-DECLARED NUCLEAR WEAPONS POWER. Isreal has threatened Iran they will be wiped off the face of the earth? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12878688 United States03/20/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? if america goes to war with iran it will implode just like what happened to the soviets nukes are useless You know what's interesting about this entire conversation this evening. It's not what we have said, it's what hasn't been said. Have you noticed that you are getting very little resistance from Americans? Doesn't that strike you as strange? Who are we talking about coming after you-don't you hear the 3rd person references and the talk about who is after the oil? Who are they? Is it your average American citizen? You haven't even been threatened by an American this evening-not really like one would expect to have happen in this kind of a confrontation. Ask yourself why this is and what we have been telling you. You keep coming back with anger and threats, but we tell you-we cannot stop what is going to happen, we can't prevent it and we have no power whatsoever over this war machine. We have admitted that America is in her dying days-we know that. So think. Whose side are you playing on? That's what you really need to decide.Who is your enemy? Figure it out. Who is really your friend? Yes, I agree, BUT, WE ARE complicit in the action if we do not stand up against it. Complicity or unable to change the direction? I would absolutely like to believe that we as a nation could pull together support no more complicity but with the uninvolved citizens I do not think we can. Nazi Party had complete complicity from the elite as well as the middle class after the Weirmer Republic also. We are about to go down in history like the other great civilizations. |
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| IJumpInIt User ID: 11511435 United States03/20/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets face it - the whole point of having a nuclear bomb is to prevent a war due to the fear of any retalitory actions against the attacker. Been that way since WWII. Quoting: IJumpInIt Now, given that Prez Imma-Dinna-Jacket has openly vowed to destroy another country - whether you like that country or not - tells anyone else he has motive to attack. Now he has the means. Pick any country and say their prez made the same threat to another country. Do you not think the targeted country would not be on the defense? In the same way the OP has voiced his anger to any attack - does he not see Israel feels the same way? As for who would 'win' - nobody would due to the world upheaval caused. Everyone loses in war, some more than others, but they all lose. The sad part is even though both sides have their ideals which happen to be different, in the end everyone will lose. The Iranian people have as little control over their Prez as we do over ours - none. It is the governments which will start a war - not the people, however it is their people who will pay the price for not reaching a compromise. If Iran is 'attacked', losses will not be contained to only Iran as any left-leaning Muslim around the globe will go on a jihad against those from the attacking country. So what can be done to prevent a war? Prove to the world - not just the USA but the world - they can be trusted with a nuclear device, be it a energy plant or bombs. Without that, we will continue down this path of drumbeating for war. .02 YOU dear one, have bought the media story, hook line and sinker. Amadinajad never said any such thing and has not said any such thing in recent videos' either. You are looking at made for TV and Internet bologna and propaganda. Just like all that made up about Gaddafi too. And I can assure you, the important people of this world KNOW that Iran is not intending Nuclear weapon making and you can tell that from watching to CNN in fact, the way they wag back and forth. We want Iran destroyed for reasons have nothing to do with Nuclear even. One of those, is they will not join the NWO. Another reason is their wealth. If, as you claim that Amadinajad did not say to 'wipe Israel off the map' then explain this which not only refutes but debunks your claim - pictures from within Iran saying "Israel should be wiped out of the face of the world" - page 13 - [link to www.jcpa.org] The argument of 'lost in translation' is totally debunked by the above evidence. Sadly, the many differences between our cultres and Governments who lie to their people will be what starts any war. If only we could each not be so threatening against the other despite differences and just 'let each other be'. If only the religous folk would stop trying to force others to follow them then maybe we could respect each other. Tragic. .02 what else would YOU expect at your link from the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and Joshua Teitelbaum? this does not prove anything, this is propaganda. DELIBERATE NOW go online and see if you can find a proper translation from the farsi of that speech and others. Ahmadinejad never said that. I had one on my older computer, I had them all in proper farsi. I don't remember the exact proper translation now, but it was more along the lines of the Zionist influence must be contended with by the truth. I am so tired of always going over these things. You can learn to think, or NOT, your choice. As to pics, in the day and age of our technology, thugs can make up anything in film, adulterate it in any way and because its an image, which says a thousand words, people will NOT THINK. It works very well, and even better when moving images come into play and people see the deception even less. Reading words implants better than images, in terms of people actually thinking. You must learn to think, each of you for yourselves and not accept blindly everything put in front of you. Factually speaking, I had an open mind to your claim and yahoo'd searched for anything to prove my point - and that poped up. I looked at other links which all spoke of 'lost in translation' - which you suffer from as well. My point is - those in positions of great power in Iran want Israel wiped off the map. And yes that is critical thinking at work. As usual you follow those who like to spin and deflect away from the point, which I will not let you get away with like so many do. Once again I say - when any country (or Prez or majority of people) wants another one wiped off the map - those are fighting words. Your government is asking for a fight so why do you get upset when one responds? Stop acting like a victim and take responsibility for your politicians threats. Sorry you cant handle the truth. .04 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12878688 United States03/20/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5302444 Americans and Israelis have been talking shit for how many decades now??? we don't play the aggressor here, we only defend Who has threatened who? You dont sound to sure to me! If Iran can kick everyones ass like they claim more power to them . Personally I dont believe it. They keep talking they can. It sounds like they will get their chance to show what they have. Good luck. Man, you are ignorant. They are not the ones talking shit, the US/Israel nations do not want Iran to kill the NPT, because if it is dead then another treaty will have to be made, and if that is the case, then, Israel WILL HAVE TO BE A PARTY TO THAT, of which they are not at this moment, they are a NON-DECLARED NUCLEAR WEAPONS POWER. Isreal has threatened Iran they will be wiped off the face of the earth? Show me the qoute...Iran has never said that, they said Israel is a no man's land, meaning they were not a nation in existance, not that they shpuld be wiped off the earth. Find me your qoute, because I HAVE NEVER seen anything referring to that, nor has the rest of the world. That is a tired old distraction. |
| IJumpInIt User ID: 11511435 United States03/20/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's days are certainly numbered. She is under judgment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7612693 But, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. I have to wonder if the House of Saud will side with Iran or US. Haven't seen the coin toss on that one. Any insight from our military personal? if america goes to war with iran it will implode just like what happened to the soviets nukes are useless You know what's interesting about this entire conversation this evening. It's not what we have said, it's what hasn't been said. Have you noticed that you are getting very little resistance from Americans? Doesn't that strike you as strange? Who are we talking about coming after you-don't you hear the 3rd person references and the talk about who is after the oil? Who are they? Is it your average American citizen? You haven't even been threatened by an American this evening-not really like one would expect to have happen in this kind of a confrontation. Ask yourself why this is and what we have been telling you. You keep coming back with anger and threats, but we tell you-we cannot stop what is going to happen, we can't prevent it and we have no power whatsoever over this war machine. We have admitted that America is in her dying days-we know that. So think. Whose side are you playing on? That's what you really need to decide.Who is your enemy? Figure it out. Who is really your friend? This is the kind of insight I wish more citizens of the world would represent. The people of a country are not the government of their country. Once upon a time, yes. Those days are long over. One's government is the enemy of it's own citizens, sadly. Thomas Jefferson once said - and I completely agree with this as it applies to any country/government: "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." And for AC 7612693 - Suggestion taken. No more feeding NIP :) |
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