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ExoPoliChick User ID: 12909685 Canada 03/22/2012 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. Last Edited by Ozone Baby on 03/22/2012 02:07 PM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283316 Canada 03/22/2012 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So tax the rich is called the socialist, by corollary then, tax the poor means capitalist, eh? Pretty much, yeah. It's amazing how the "Tea Party" movement has convinced many people that barely have two nickels to rub together themselves, to actually vote AGAINST their own interests. It's not a like a "tax cut" is going to give some dumb hick making $20K a year any more money in his pocket but hey, at least he didn't vote for a "socialist" and that's all that matters. "Capitalism" in this day and age seems to mean: "socialize the risk, privatize the rewards." |
Madame X User ID: 628775 Canada 03/22/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. ^This^ The closed door parliament should be halted as well before they see another thin dime of our money. "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283316 Canada 03/22/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. |
Madame X User ID: 628775 Canada 03/22/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. The Graham James case has made us all take a second look at the justice system. No wonder victims don't report the crime, it's not worth the public humiliation to have your abuser receive such a weak sentence. You receive a longer sentence for growing pot now than for molesting kids. We are not moving in a positive direction. "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
RedlicoriceRedux (OP) User ID: 4369477 Canada 03/22/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at these G8/G20 factsheets on what different countries paid. WTF Canada. [link to www.g8.utoronto.ca] |
ExoPoliChick User ID: 12909685 Canada 03/22/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. Where do you get your numbers from? You know in government 'official' figures are always less than actual figures. Legalize and regulate drugs and you have more room for the people who really deserve to be in prison. We don't need more/bigger prisons, we need a better justice system. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12172447 Canada 03/22/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So tax the rich is called the socialist, by corollary then, tax the poor means capitalist, eh? Not sure which one I'm more inclined to, but I'm sure that making 100k/year is something that I won't be doing in this lifetime. LOL~ Tax everyone less, only spend on essential things. The rest is Socilaism and Social Engineering. Looks like you have been Socila Engineered already. Anyone that's for Socialism is an uneducated idiot that probably just won't make it in life. Conservatism without the Wars is where its at. True Libertarianism is most desirable, leave me alone & I leave you alone. |
RedlicoriceRedux (OP) User ID: 4369477 Canada 03/22/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. Where do you get your numbers from? You know in government 'official' figures are always less than actual figures. Legalize and regulate drugs and you have more room for the people who really deserve to be in prison. We don't need more/bigger prisons, we need a better justice system. Yes, I think they should start spending money on preventative measures in both the medical and on youth programs. |
ExoPoliChick User ID: 12909685 Canada 03/22/2012 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. Where do you get your numbers from? You know in government 'official' figures are always less than actual figures. Legalize and regulate drugs and you have more room for the people who really deserve to be in prison. We don't need more/bigger prisons, we need a better justice system. Harper is single-handedly injecting the prison industrial complex with steroids by building super prisons for a dropping crime rate, then introducing draconian crime bill legislation to fill those prisons. It's nothing less than one big make work project at the expense of Canadian dollars and freedoms. Harper is a criminal and should be the first inmate registered in one of his lovely new prisons. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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Madame X User ID: 628775 Canada 03/22/2012 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ExoPoliChick None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. Where do you get your numbers from? You know in government 'official' figures are always less than actual figures. Legalize and regulate drugs and you have more room for the people who really deserve to be in prison. We don't need more/bigger prisons, we need a better justice system. Harper is single-handedly injecting the prison industrial complex with steroids by building super prisons for a dropping crime rate, then introducing draconian crime bill legislation to fill those prisons. It's nothing less than one big make work project at the expense of Canadian dollars and freedoms. Harper is a criminal and should be the first inmate registered in one of his lovely new prisons. +1 Notice how the robocall scandal is being swept under the rug. "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
ExoPoliChick User ID: 12909685 Canada 03/22/2012 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bwahahahaha $100,000/year is rich?!?!?! Quoting: SmuRidley AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283316 Canada 03/22/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So tax the rich is called the socialist, by corollary then, tax the poor means capitalist, eh? Not sure which one I'm more inclined to, but I'm sure that making 100k/year is something that I won't be doing in this lifetime. LOL~ Tax everyone less, only spend on essential things. The rest is Socilaism and Social Engineering. Looks like you have been Socila Engineered already. Anyone that's for Socialism is an uneducated idiot that probably just won't make it in life. Conservatism without the Wars is where its at. True Libertarianism is most desirable, leave me alone & I leave you alone. I'm not "social engineered" and am not a socialist. However, this attitude that government is irrelevant and "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" has long been disproven. The whole reason there is a "government tit" in the first place is that when left to their own devices people don't all just automatically start businesses and create wealth. Some do and they would thrive in a libertarian society. The rest would be wretchedly poor, living from hand-to-mouth like in the 1850s. Life basically sucked ass for anyone who was not a "robber baron" or royalty back in those days. Even in the early 20th century a lot of factory work would make what is going on at Chinese electronics firms look like paradise by comparison until unions and labour laws were enacted. |
ExoPoliChick User ID: 12909685 Canada 03/22/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So tax the rich is called the socialist, by corollary then, tax the poor means capitalist, eh? Not sure which one I'm more inclined to, but I'm sure that making 100k/year is something that I won't be doing in this lifetime. LOL~ Tax everyone less, only spend on essential things. The rest is Socilaism and Social Engineering. Looks like you have been Socila Engineered already. Anyone that's for Socialism is an uneducated idiot that probably just won't make it in life. Conservatism without the Wars is where its at. True Libertarianism is most desirable, leave me alone & I leave you alone. I'm not "social engineered" and am not a socialist. However, this attitude that government is irrelevant and "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" has long been disproven. The whole reason there is a "government tit" in the first place is that when left to their own devices people don't all just automatically start businesses and create wealth. Some do and they would thrive in a libertarian society. The rest would be wretchedly poor, living from hand-to-mouth like in the 1850s. Life basically sucked ass for anyone who was not a "robber baron" or royalty back in those days. Even in the early 20th century a lot of factory work would make what is going on at Chinese electronics firms look like paradise by comparison until unions and labour laws were enacted. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
RedlicoriceRedux (OP) User ID: 4369477 Canada 03/22/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Income over $640,000 and less than $1.85 million would be hit with an additional three per cent and income over $1.85 million would be subject to an additional surtax of six per cent. The group estimates that the federal government would earn an extra $3.5 billion a year and Ontario would raise an extra $1.7 billion. ---- Wishful thinking. I really don't believe the very wealthy will pay more taxes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12758139 United States 03/22/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have always believed that ANY tax system should allow those paying taxes to OPT-IN and OPT-OUT of where they want their money spent. They would still have to pay the same overall percentage, but could say NOT support military for example. I realize there would have to be a checks and balances to keep from over inflating and killing some critical needs, but I think many citizens would like to have a "SAY" in where their money goes. |
northerntomcat User ID: 1390569 Canada 03/22/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Income over $640,000 and less than $1.85 million would be hit with an additional three per cent and income over $1.85 million would be subject to an additional surtax of six per cent. Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux The group estimates that the federal government would earn an extra $3.5 billion a year and Ontario would raise an extra $1.7 billion. ---- Wishful thinking. I really don't believe the very wealthy will pay more taxes. No they won't they will move more of their assets out of the country and move their companies out of Canada,Well the ones that are still here. If you cross country ski, start with a small country. |
RedlicoriceRedux (OP) User ID: 4369477 Canada 03/22/2012 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Income over $640,000 and less than $1.85 million would be hit with an additional three per cent and income over $1.85 million would be subject to an additional surtax of six per cent. Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux The group estimates that the federal government would earn an extra $3.5 billion a year and Ontario would raise an extra $1.7 billion. ---- Wishful thinking. I really don't believe the very wealthy will pay more taxes. No they won't they will move more of their assets out of the country and move their companies out of Canada,Well the ones that are still here. You know it. |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 9522399 Canada 03/22/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean really, will these elitists just hand over more tax dollars to the government and not have a say in where the money will be spent? Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux None of us should hand over tax money without having a say in how it's spent. It is squandered in Canada on $2M fake lakes, $2B+ on G20, parliamentary fat cats and super prisons for a dropping crime rate. I love my country but I hate my government. the most despicable thing Harper has done was rename our government The Harper Government. well...that's not MY government....i don't live in Harper. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
RedlicoriceRedux (OP) User ID: 4369477 Canada 03/22/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316 The G20 was nowhere near $2B... More like $800 million to $1 billion and it was out turn to host it. As for the prisons, it's not a glamourous issue and no government really wants to spend money on them, but many of our institutions have decayed to the point that the UN was considering whether or not being confined in one constituted "cruel and unusual punishment." Declining crime or not, there is still crime and if we want to keep people who actually deserve to be behind bars imprisoned longer we need to have the space for them. These two-year sentences for child rape and house arrest for serious offenses have got to stop. Where do you get your numbers from? You know in government 'official' figures are always less than actual figures. Legalize and regulate drugs and you have more room for the people who really deserve to be in prison. We don't need more/bigger prisons, we need a better justice system. Harper is single-handedly injecting the prison industrial complex with steroids by building super prisons for a dropping crime rate, then introducing draconian crime bill legislation to fill those prisons. It's nothing less than one big make work project at the expense of Canadian dollars and freedoms. Harper is a criminal and should be the first inmate registered in one of his lovely new prisons. +1 Notice how the robocall scandal is being swept under the rug. Yes, it's like "nothing to see here folks". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9524144 United States 03/22/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So tax the rich is called the socialist, by corollary then, tax the poor means capitalist, eh? Not sure which one I'm more inclined to, but I'm sure that making 100k/year is something that I won't be doing in this lifetime. LOL~ Tax everyone less, only spend on essential things. The rest is Socilaism and Social Engineering. Looks like you have been Socila Engineered already. Anyone that's for Socialism is an uneducated idiot that probably just won't make it in life. Conservatism without the Wars is where its at. True Libertarianism is most desirable, leave me alone & I leave you alone. I'm not "social engineered" and am not a socialist. However, this attitude that government is irrelevant and "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" has long been disproven. The whole reason there is a "government tit" in the first place is that when left to their own devices people don't all just automatically start businesses and create wealth. Some do and they would thrive in a libertarian society. The rest would be wretchedly poor, living from hand-to-mouth like in the 1850s. Life basically sucked ass for anyone who was not a "robber baron" or royalty back in those days. Even in the early 20th century a lot of factory work would make what is going on at Chinese electronics firms look like paradise by comparison until unions and labour laws were enacted. LOL. And you think you haven't been completely brainwashed? What about all the people that IMMIGRATED from Europe to the the United States and WANTED to work for the 'evil robber barons?' |
RedlicoriceRedux (OP) User ID: 4369477 Canada 03/22/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165409 So tax the rich is called the socialist, by corollary then, tax the poor means capitalist, eh? Not sure which one I'm more inclined to, but I'm sure that making 100k/year is something that I won't be doing in this lifetime. LOL~ Tax everyone less, only spend on essential things. The rest is Socilaism and Social Engineering. Looks like you have been Socila Engineered already. Anyone that's for Socialism is an uneducated idiot that probably just won't make it in life. Conservatism without the Wars is where its at. True Libertarianism is most desirable, leave me alone & I leave you alone. I'm not "social engineered" and am not a socialist. However, this attitude that government is irrelevant and "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" has long been disproven. The whole reason there is a "government tit" in the first place is that when left to their own devices people don't all just automatically start businesses and create wealth. Some do and they would thrive in a libertarian society. The rest would be wretchedly poor, living from hand-to-mouth like in the 1850s. Life basically sucked ass for anyone who was not a "robber baron" or royalty back in those days. Even in the early 20th century a lot of factory work would make what is going on at Chinese electronics firms look like paradise by comparison until unions and labour laws were enacted. LOL. And you think you haven't been completely brainwashed? What about all the people that IMMIGRATED from Europe to the the United States and WANTED to work for the 'evil robber barons?' It was either that or starvation. |