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If the Supreme Court kills Obamacare. You lose.

 
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OP you’re an idiot….Governmental regulations and large hospital construction/overhead, bloated education costs, insurance schemes, etc. are all systemic designs to suck the life out of you. I’m saddened by your lack of understanding and knowledge of systemic controls, media propaganda, and social brainwashing. Nothing about socialized healthcare benefits the community as a whole. Please read a good book, learn principled thinking/community actions and talk to someone who has half a brain…You probably think capitalism is good too? Haha…I have a nice helmet your can use, I’m sure it will come in handy.
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03/28/2012 05:22 AM
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
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I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
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Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier, all this and the health care is cheaper because there is no middle man who leeches. So I have to say you're wrong.

We live longer, so health is better over here.
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as much as its not exactly being ran too well, thankfully here in the uk all treatment is free. If the world governments were to spending so much fucking time learning new ways to kill each other then this wouldn't be a problem...
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
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I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
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Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier, all this and the health care is cheaper because there is no middle man who leeches. So I have to say you're wrong.

We live longer, so health is better over here.
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The reason you live longer is because you are not bombarded with chemicals every day like we are. It has nothing to do with health care quality.
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03/28/2012 05:41 AM
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794

I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier
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And the corporate government, not a representative of your people, micro manages every aspect of your life.
You are dependant upon them to such a degree they literally hold the button that determines your life and death.
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03/28/2012 05:46 AM
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Like it or not, Obama's health care law was written for you. Not for him. It was written to help the majority of people of this country, not the 1%.

Before Obamacare:

1. Children with preexisting conditions could be denied coverage. Kind of like a live birth abortion for those of you that love sperm and eggs so much. You should be appalled. Kids with cancer get a letter denying coverage.

2. Young people couldn't get coverage under their parents policy. Now they can be covered until 26 years old under the parent's policy.

3. Health insurance companies had a max amount they would pay for you lifetime. Go over it with your cancer and ..well too bad. fucking die, we are done paying. Right now that is illegal.

You dumb fucks that think the free market will take care of you are right. Buy a casket. The laws of the United States require hospitals treat any emergency condition be treated whether the person has insurance or now, so guess what. You already pay for coverage for others.
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Lying cocksucking shill, shut the fuck up. The gov't can not mandate that I buy a product that I dont want. Whats next , asshole? You the gov't tells you what kind of lube to buy for your asshole whne you bend over and take it from a pitbull?
You fucking make me sick.
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03/28/2012 05:54 AM
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794

I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794


And the corporate government, not a representative of your people, micro manages every aspect of your life.
You are dependant upon them to such a degree they literally hold the button that determines your life and death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


Haha, my friend, you are wrong. There are both private hospitals and government run hospitals, and we are free to choose between them. The difference is that we pay directly to the health care instead of having a huge colossus like health care insurance companies that need to take their cut before the hospitals get paid.

That alone makes that system more expensive, that's pure logic.

As far as I can tell, we pretty much have the same system in all of Europe.
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03/28/2012 05:57 AM
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794

I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier, all this and the health care is cheaper because there is no middle man who leeches. So I have to say you're wrong.

We live longer, so health is better over here.
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You have to understand they´re brainwashed by their corporations to yell ¨Socialism!!, socialism!!, socialism!!¨ to anything that´s actually good for THEM and not their CORPORATIONS.
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03/28/2012 06:00 AM
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Just deal with the fact that it's not constitutional.
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Drop your car insurance then....lets see how long you get away with that. It's mandatory dummy.
 Quoting: Brainsdonthurtabit


It is not. For years and years I didn't have auto insurance.

...I also didn't have a car. Its a choice.

KenyaCare doesn't give you a choice. It just forces you into the system regardless of your circumstances.

Its sheople like you that make the world really messed up. Your ignorance of Common Law and the rights of man empower the 1%. They read your stuff and they laugh and there are high fives all around.

The Constitution is Common Law. If the supreme court rules in favor of KenyaCare, then its official: The Supreme Court's decision have officially departed from Common Law and, therefore, Constitutional Law.

Only an idiot (or a highly paid government official known as a Supreme Court Justice) couldn't see that.

Let KenyaCare die. It might help the poor and lazy but it will kill the middle class which will kill the USA (if its not already dead). Morans like you just make me laugh. Sheople. Poor, poor, poor ignorant sheople.

You've been brainwashed into believing you know what is going on and have been trained how to think.

WTSHTF your reality will change. From my 30 acres in the midwest it will be entertaining to watch you eat each other.
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I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794


And the corporate government, not a representative of your people, micro manages every aspect of your life.
You are dependant upon them to such a degree they literally hold the button that determines your life and death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


Haha, my friend, you are wrong. There are both private hospitals and government run hospitals, and we are free to choose between them. The difference is that we pay directly to the health care instead of having a huge colossus like health care insurance companies that need to take their cut before the hospitals get paid.

That alone makes that system more expensive, that's pure logic.

As far as I can tell, we pretty much have the same system in all of Europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794


Same here, we have private hospitals and public hospitals, we are free to choose between them. We don´t go to PRISON if we don´t have health insurance!!

Thet´re brainwashed by corporations friend. Let us try to be understanding with their ignorance.
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Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794


And the corporate government, not a representative of your people, micro manages every aspect of your life.
You are dependant upon them to such a degree they literally hold the button that determines your life and death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


Haha, my friend, you are wrong. There are both private hospitals and government run hospitals, and we are free to choose between them. The difference is that we pay directly to the health care instead of having a huge colossus like health care insurance companies that need to take their cut before the hospitals get paid.

That alone makes that system more expensive, that's pure logic.

As far as I can tell, we pretty much have the same system in all of Europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794


Same here, we have private hospitals and public hospitals, we are free to choose between them. We don´t go to PRISON if we don´t have health insurance!!

Thet´re brainwashed by corporations friend. Let us try to be understanding with their ignorance.
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They don't understand that a few Elites are making BILLIONS of $$$ on the insurance fee they pay.

They would have a LOT more money is the wallet if they paid their health care directly instead of just giving it away to some fat ass billionaire who decides if their insurance covers this or that.
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03/28/2012 06:09 AM
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*in the wallet
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03/28/2012 06:14 AM
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To all of the Europeans in this thread claiming they get cheaper health care than we do here, you don't. You pay out the ass for your government run healthcare in the form of higher taxation. That's why you pay about $10 for one gallon of gasoline. Your healthcare costs are simply hidden in other forms of taxation. That's the little secret.
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03/28/2012 06:14 AM
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No one said our healthcare system was flawless, but Obamacare does more harm than good. And the supreme court is about to undo Obama's mistake.

Why is it that when something needs to be "fixed" or loopholes need to be closed, you libs automatically think it means we need new laws or massive legislation?

Creating a bigger govt. and more bureaucracies always makes things worse.
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So you support kids with cancer losing coverage? Because that is what will happen if this is shot down. As long as it's not your kid right?
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So what will be your solution when doctors decide to quit being doctors because of all the new bureaucratic hoops they'll have to jump through, and business owners decide to go out of business because it's just too much trouble to stay in business?
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Health insurance companies deceide what doctors get paid and when now. Do you know anything about what you are talking about? Ask any doctor what they think of private for profit insurance payments to them. Government regulation of the health insurers will make it easier for doctors. maybe that's why the AMA supports Obamacare.
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AMA? You got to be kidding right? they are the fox news of the medical world. Proof just ask a independent doc about the AMA. They would sponsor and back frontal lobotomies if it got gov't kick backs. Run along bottom feeder
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03/28/2012 06:19 AM
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Look at this graph:

[link to www.nationmaster.com]

The US spends almost twice as much per capita than Sweden, yet we in Sweden are ALL covered and gets ALL the treatment we need, no matter WHAT disease or health problem.

That means that something is wrong with your system. Each and every one of you could save HUGE amounts of $$$ and STILL have all citizens covered for any medical needs.

You have been brainwashed by the very few in the Elite who are RIGHT NOW ROBBING YOU OF YOU HARD EARNED CASH. They SIT on their FAT ASSES and STEAL YOUR MONEY, and STILL can DENY YOU TREATMENT.
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To all of the Europeans in this thread claiming they get cheaper health care than we do here, you don't. You pay out the ass for your government run healthcare in the form of higher taxation. That's why you pay about $10 for one gallon of gasoline. Your healthcare costs are simply hidden in other forms of taxation. That's the little secret.
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If you´re MANDATED to buy health insurance from a corporation isn´t that in effect a form of taxation? iamwith
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To all of the Europeans in this thread claiming they get cheaper health care than we do here, you don't. You pay out the ass for your government run healthcare in the form of higher taxation. That's why you pay about $10 for one gallon of gasoline. Your healthcare costs are simply hidden in other forms of taxation. That's the little secret.
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Well, it's true we pay more for gas, but instead we have way way cheaper car insurance.
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thank god this is pinned.
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Anyway, I do not believe the Supreme Court is going to kill the law, because everything in the world today is already decided, and things like this are only for show. There is no democracy.
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You forgot the part where the Feds won't repeal the HMO Acts of the 70s, that effectively link insurance to employment. Not to mention that the Feds won't OK cross-border insurance sales like car insurance.

So no, Obummer care isn't the "fix", nor is any ADDITIONAL piece of legislation.

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Like it or not, Obama's health care law was written for you. Not for him. It was written to help the majority of people of this country, not the 1%.

Before Obamacare:

1. Children with preexisting conditions could be denied coverage. Kind of like a live birth abortion for those of you that love sperm and eggs so much. You should be appalled. Kids with cancer get a letter denying coverage.
2. Young people couldn't get coverage under their parents policy. Now they can be covered until 26 years old under the parent's policy.
3. Health insurance companies had a max amount they would pay for you lifetime. Go over it with your cancer and ..well too bad. fucking die, we are done paying. Right now that is illegal.
You dumb fucks that think the free market will take care of you are right. Buy a casket. The laws of the United States require hospitals treat any emergency condition be treated whether the person has insurance or now, so guess what. You already pay for coverage for others.
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Obviously, the OP is:
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Like it or not, Obama's health care law was written for you. Not for him. It was written to help the majority of people of this country, not the 1%.

Before Obamacare:

1. Children with preexisting conditions could be denied coverage. Kind of like a live birth abortion for those of you that love sperm and eggs so much. You should be appalled. Kids with cancer get a letter denying coverage.

2. Young people couldn't get coverage under their parents policy. Now they can be covered until 26 years old under the parent's policy.

3. Health insurance companies had a max amount they would pay for you lifetime. Go over it with your cancer and ..well too bad. fucking die, we are done paying. Right now that is illegal.

You dumb fucks that think the free market will take care of you are right. Buy a casket. The laws of the United States require hospitals treat any emergency condition be treated whether the person has insurance or now, so guess what. You already pay for coverage for others.
 Quoting: Brainsdonthurtabit


you sir must be a non worker. I work and all it does is let the insurance company's charge what they want you have to have so you have to pay stupid law there is a lot that needs to change before this plan would work. For starters free healthcare should be the free clinic. I pay 90 dollars a week for garbage insurance and that's just my part not counting what my employer pays. And you should do a little research before you get you run off at the mouth. People die it is the circle of life. Hospitals can't turn you away if your in danger of dieing. I'm tiered of paying for a welfare state if I want to give I will I should not have to pay for the lazy. I don't care who you are there is a job for everyone. Stupid law...
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You pay 90 a month for shit insurance because those that don't have insurance get treated anyway, thereby raising rates on you. Wouldn't you want them to be required to buy insurance? Hmmm...by the way..you don't know shit about me...But I do know this...I can buy and sell you...I have and can afford excellent insurance. I'm not worried about me, I worry about you dumb fucks that vote against your own interests...ha ha.
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I pay 90 a week dumb ass. Fucking shill ..If you got so much you pay for the lazy dumb ass . Buy and sell me who says that? Your so worried about the week start a charity for them . Stupid you just prove the point.
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My catastrophic health insurance policy that I pay for has gone up 60% because of ObummerCare

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Anyway, I do not believe the Supreme Court is going to kill the law, because everything in the world today is already decided, and things like this are only for show. There is no democracy.
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prolly
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This OP thread creator "Brainsdonthurtabit" is a well known shill
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This OP thread creator "Brainsdonthurtabit" is a well known shill
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The million dollar question is = why he gets instant pins for obvious shillary
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794

I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier, all this and the health care is cheaper because there is no middle man who leeches. So I have to say you're wrong.

We live longer, so health is better over here.
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There's no such thing as free health care...
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Government funded health care is the only right thing. I guarantee you will have more money in your wallet. And all the health care you need, without having to worry that you will lose your house or whatever.

Government funded health care is obviously good enough for your troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12315794

I've experienced both. I'd say private health care is head and shoulders better than government health care.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


Well, I live in Sweden and over here we all have free health care, and as får as I can tell we live longer and are healthier, all this and the health care is cheaper because there is no middle man who leeches. So I have to say you're wrong.

We live longer, so health is better over here.
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There's no such thing as free health care...
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Well, you know what I mean. We pay less than you, and get more than you.
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