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The Upcoming War on Used Games

 
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03/29/2012 05:29 PM
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oh and did you know that if you digitally download a game you get 2 copies instead of 1. Whatever Xbox you download your game to uses the game with anyone signed in. But with your gamertag that purchased the game you can play and download it to any xbox. So if you own two xbox's you get two copies for the price of one. This works great when me and my son want to play a multiplayer game without split screen. We can just play each other from different xbox's without having to buy the game twice.
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Unenforcable.
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Agreed.

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03/29/2012 05:56 PM
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:newtech:

ohyeah

It'll be a sad day when greasy nerds take away the ability to go to he store and buy a used game for cheap...

But what can one man do?
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


My NES and SNES still works to this day. My 360... died twice on me. Fuck those game companies. Games are not what they used to be. Keep making shitty games, but expect the public to pay more for it. Fuck em.
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:newtech:

ohyeah

It'll be a sad day when greasy nerds take away the ability to go to he store and buy a used game for cheap...

But what can one man do?
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


My NES and SNES still works to this day. My 360... died twice on me. Fuck those game companies. Games are not what they used to be. Keep making shitty games, but expect the public to pay more for it. Fuck em.
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I repair my own 360's all it takes is 5$ worth of thermal paste and 20 minutes.
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03/29/2012 05:59 PM
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How are they going to enforce this? What if I don't plug my console into the internet? How can they tell the game is used?
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03/29/2012 06:00 PM
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BTW this once again proves that computers are the preferred gaming platform!

Steam FTW!
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03/29/2012 06:07 PM
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How are they going to enforce this? What if I don't plug my console into the internet? How can they tell the game is used?
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If you dont plug your game into the internet then you do not need to play a multiplayer game, which is what the game passes are for in the first place.
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03/29/2012 06:08 PM
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bump

I am with you on that, and I do agree there are plenty of games that have lots of fun, original, and replayable content that keeps you interested instead of "I beat it, time to trade it in for something else"

I do not own any consoles besides the original Xbox, because console games are mostly overpriced junk.
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03/29/2012 06:09 PM
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sad,greedy mofo's
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03/29/2012 06:10 PM
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[link to www.forbes.com]


On the upcoming Xbox and Playstation systems, there will likely be an extra charge to be able to play a used game. That's right...developers are getting upset that kids pay for their game, beat it or get tired of it in a few weeks, and sell it to GameStop.
Gamestop, then, turns around and re-sells it for a profit to someone who hasn't had the opportunity to play it.
Game developers are pissy because they see none of this profit.

...

They want to be paid each time their game is sold...whether it's new or not. The real catch is that you can buy the game used at a dicounted price no problem. You just have to pay extra if you actually want full access to the game. It's the same as you going out to buy a 99 Ford Focus and only being allowed to drive it if you pay royalties to Ford.

Why is this a problem?

You aren't going to be able to get games at a reasonable discount for buying used. Even though you paid lessr the game, you'll be paying more just to play it, so you might as well just get a new one.
Instead of whining about diminishing profits because of kids returning their games back to GameStop, perhaps they should just make a game that you want to keep. I have no problem playing games like Skyrim and Forza for month after month because they update with new content to keep you interested. Perhaps if developers don't want people returning their products, they should get with the program and do the same.

I won't be buying any new gaming system that supports charging you extra for recycling a used game. I suggest you all do the same.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


all agreed.

But I take it a bit further, myself. Until data privacy is much better, I won't be using a game system that requires me to connect to the internet for any reason. Between snoopy govs, companies, and hackers all wanting my data, NONE of em are getting it just so I can play games.
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03/29/2012 06:18 PM
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why dont those companys start their own gameshops if they are so eager to get into second hand, although i must say i traded three games recently cos i wanted to buy me3 new with a discount, they were only going to give me five bucks for la noire, i said no way, its on their second hand shelf for fifty bucks, they used to give me twenty for the relatively nrwish ones
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03/29/2012 06:20 PM
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i am not interested in downloading new releases online, uses up too much of my data allowance
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03/29/2012 07:16 PM
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:newtech:

ohyeah

It'll be a sad day when greasy nerds take away the ability to go to he store and buy a used game for cheap...

But what can one man do?
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


NO SHIT that says it all right there... I was just talking to a buddy about that exact same thing today LOL wierd.
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03/29/2012 07:26 PM
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:newtech:

ohyeah

It'll be a sad day when greasy nerds take away the ability to go to he store and buy a used game for cheap...

But what can one man do?
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


NO SHIT that says it all right there... I was just talking to a buddy about that exact same thing today LOL wierd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12977954


It's not the nerdy game developers (programmers and animators) that are the problem here.

It's the huge game publishing companies like EA that want more profits, without actually improving the games.
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03/29/2012 07:30 PM
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fucking greedy ass corporations....i wish the person who is going after this money, DIES
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03/29/2012 07:32 PM
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I like used games, since I don't need to buy titles on day one, however:

The future is 100% online distribution like Steam. No DVD that can get scratched (or ripped and pirated), new games cost what they do now, then the price goes down over time as the game gets "old". (and really, if the game is still good who cares?)

I either just troll through the back catalog and buy stuff at the $10-$20 or wait for the big sales where you can get say, ALL of the GTA series for $20 or whatever. Brilliant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316


You are 100% correct nearly everything data wise will exist in "the cloud", where everything you have can be anywhere you are. Honestly its kind of scary everyone will be soooo dependent on the system for entertainment, banking , travel plans, you name it.

Welcome to the future.
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03/29/2012 07:53 PM
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Those bastards!!!!
 Quoting: DILKe


Time to short-sell some GameStop stock...Used games is where they get all their revenue
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


if this happens say byebye to gamestop.they only make 5 to 10 $ per new game sold,all their money is in used games.if this is true the game companies would be cutting their own throats over being greedy.i for one would'nt buy their shit anymore.i've stopped buying most games anyways,because it's rehashed bs.the same game with alil tweaking.madden 30 will be the same as madden 12.

meanwhile they fuck up the good games like rainbow6...black arrow was 1 of the best.heck all they would have to do is re release blackarrow with a new map pack and weapons and i'd buy that over the rest of this bs.they are making a killing off of people selling them tweaked games.when they make a part 2 to something they are already working on 3 as they are making 2.they are so greedy that they released water downed shit alil at a time to keep people buying.
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03/29/2012 07:58 PM
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It will come a time when everything including the OS will be housed online somewhere, that way they have control over everything you do. Online backups? WTF like I trust that.
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03/29/2012 08:12 PM
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My problem with online distribution is that you often only pay to have the license to play the game, and they can take away that. So long as you keep your data backed up, there's no problem, you can keep that game. Once you've lost it and they choose not to allow you to download it again, id see a dvd/cd or cartridge much more worth while.
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03/29/2012 08:19 PM
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Play Chuckie Egg ! Hours of fun with no violence !

And its free !

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imagine a future when the console wont work until detecs the owner's biometric data, and ads extra charge over a second player acount, unles that player buy his own console and plays online, one console and one game per gamer, no alternatives no escape
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03/29/2012 08:26 PM
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New games have been a rip off.

Take Call of Duty MW3. That was the shortest game in fucking history.

Now they came out with an expansion pack to get more money out of you they should have included in the first release.

Crysis 2 is actually the best deal I've had in a long time. It's interesting, fun, good plot, awesome weapons, good game play and it keeps on giving. It lasts a long time.

Fear 3 gives you two types of game play to keep the game interesting.

I see the COD series trying to rip people off and I'm done with them. Fuck them and their dirty tricks.

And there is no way in hell they can demand payment for used games. Can you imagine wanting a piece of a game sold at a garage sale?

Who the fuck do these people think they are?
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03/29/2012 08:34 PM
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Steam is crap
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03/29/2012 08:43 PM
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That is why I game on pc's and use pirate sites.....
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:newtech:

ohyeah

It'll be a sad day when greasy nerds take away the ability to go to he store and buy a used game for cheap...

But what can one man do?
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


NO SHIT that says it all right there... I was just talking to a buddy about that exact same thing today LOL wierd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12977954


here is a principle to act by, in life in general:

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

In other words, act the way you would hope everyone would act to stop bad things.

Boycott products that violate your values, etc. Never feel helpless or useless. People will follow your example eventually. Help spread the word about what you are doing, and why.

Meanwhile, keep enjoying life. Its not like they can take away akk the games that already exist today, and that already constitutes centuries of quality entertainment (I'm not counting the crappy games). No reason to bend over. Not on this issue, not on any issue. Every crowd is made up of nothing more than a bunch of 'just one man/woman'
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03/29/2012 09:13 PM
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You know what they might be right as the new games need to be patched and long we stay off net we can play the old games, ty for the old games that can be played without patches.
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[link to www.forbes.com]


On the upcoming Xbox and Playstation systems, there will likely be an extra charge to be able to play a used game. That's right...developers are getting upset that kids pay for their game, beat it or get tired of it in a few weeks, and sell it to GameStop.
Gamestop, then, turns around and re-sells it for a profit to someone who hasn't had the opportunity to play it.
Game developers are pissy because they see none of this profit.

...

They want to be paid each time their game is sold...whether it's new or not. The real catch is that you can buy the game used at a dicounted price no problem. You just have to pay extra if you actually want full access to the game. It's the same as you going out to buy a 99 Ford Focus and only being allowed to drive it if you pay royalties to Ford.

Why is this a problem?

You aren't going to be able to get games at a reasonable discount for buying used. Even though you paid lessr the game, you'll be paying more just to play it, so you might as well just get a new one.
Instead of whining about diminishing profits because of kids returning their games back to GameStop, perhaps they should just make a game that you want to keep. I have no problem playing games like Skyrim and Forza for month after month because they update with new content to keep you interested. Perhaps if developers don't want people returning their products, they should get with the program and do the same.

I won't be buying any new gaming system that supports charging you extra for recycling a used game. I suggest you all do the same.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


This is already being done. It is the game developers, such as Electronic Arts that require a registration prior to playing if new. If used, you will need to pay a surcharge to register.
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03/29/2012 09:19 PM
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Corporate Fucks
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I hate to tell you this but Steam games get pirated as well.
 Quoting: Koitenshin


It's not so much an issue of pirated material. The problem the developers have is not making money off of sales of their used games...which makes no sense considering they already received money for selling that game.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


Makes PLENTY of sense. thwak
Should car manufacturers make money every time a car is resold???


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I think it's stupid these companies want to get paid for every sale. It's insane.

I'm a carpenter, but I don't get a royalty every time a house I've built is sold. What's the fucking difference? Why should these fucking people get paid for ever fucking sale?

I stopped buying new games years ago when they started releasing them unfinished and unplayable. I'm not going to pay the fuckers to beta-test their games!

Fuck 'em!
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