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Nuclear Thorium Battery

 
Anonymous Coward
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Nuclear Thorium Battery
Why is it that the American and Russian governments are using a battery that can safely power our cars for over a decade without a single recharge! At first I thought this might be a hoax or a clever ad to grab my attention, but after spending only 30 minutes on Google, I realized where there is smoke there is probably fire! Here is the link that ignited my curiosity...

[link to open.salon.com]

Then I started following the links in the article These incredible batteries are very compact and can be made in any size, and one inventor ran his entire house for over a year on a battery the size of a shoebox (Google "Dimitri Petronov", "inventor," "Battery") and American inventor used his battery to power a car for 13 months before he disappeared. See this link...

[link to peakoil.com]

Then I read the Zimbio link in the National Science Foundation link and realized the U.S. Navy and NASA have been using this battery for over five years already! This is exactly what the world needs to eliminate coal plants and reduce global warming. I found references to the battery being used in satellites and "super long range torpedoes". I think this battery would do the world a lot more good if we installed it the 4 billion cars an trucks driving around than inside a few hundred torpedoes that may never be used.

I then found a link offering a $10 million reward for a plasma battery and when I followed the link, I discovered the inventor's family have not heard from him in over a year. Like the internet links, he also just disappeared. Apparently a Harvard genius professor was writing about this technology as far back as 1998 (Dr. Khanna).

Why does this have to be such a big secret? What the heck is going on? This battery should be in every cell phone, every laptop, every car, every truck, every ship, every home etc. Just think what that would do for the air we breathe and our environment in general.

Scientifically, plasma is the fourth state of matter, a mix of gas and liquid and plasma energy is exactly what is contained in a lightning bolt. There is enough electric power in a single lightning bolt to power a large city for 6 hours.

I don't believe governments are serious about climate change and clean energy technology when I realize this technology has been available for years and yet hidden from public perception. Instead useless, outdated, expensive, prehistoric garbage like wind and solar power is presented in its place.
Bowyn Aerrow

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03/30/2012 09:20 PM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Since you are on on the subject, start researching liquid fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR).

Imagine this, a safe, low pressure source of energy that can not be used to build nuclear warheads because it cannot produce weapons grade fissile material. How safe? so safe that even if the containment vessel broke up magically (there is hardly any pressure inside, thus it won't explode) the nuclear fuel could dump out and the nuclear reaction would slow and stop, not crank up and become a meltdown.

Thorium is abundant - astronomically abundant compared to plutonium and uranium. Burning plutonium or uranium is like burning platinum bars instead of cord wood to heat your house (if it were possible).

All of these new rare earth batteries and other technologies that use rare earths, most of the mines are loaded with thorium. Its such a 'problem' with excess thorium that many deposits of rare earth metals and minerals are not tapped because no one knows what to do with the so called waste material (thorium).

Why wasn't it pursued, why do we have high pressure solid fuel reactors that are difficult to control and have so much extra plumbing to keep them safe that its ridiculous to even consider using them over the much safer, far simpler liquid salt (thorium) type reactors?

1. You can't produce weapons grade fissile material out of a LFTR, sure you can get some weapons grade material, but it takes way to long (decades at nominal operating levels to say power a city) to raise up enough weapons grade material to build one bomb.

2. Money. Once again it comes to Large Corporations keeping a strangle hold on the population. Where as a solid core reactor to power 30% of a city costs billions of dollars to build. For the same amount of money you can power a city plus its surrounding area. The return is like 4 times that in energy per dollar. 120% of the electrical needs of your city from LFTR than the 30% you get from solid fuel reactors.

3. Politics. Consider the US Nuclear Policy. Right now it pretty much forbids North Korea, Iran and many other nations from pursuing peaceful applications of nuclear energy. The USA developed the nuclear industry and has exported it (Yep even to the old USSR). It purposefully degraded and pushed LFTR technology out of the then small nuclear science community who has gone on to continue 'hiding' LFTR technology. So much so that an armchair scientist is the 'expert' on LFTR. How much of an Expert. China went to him for more information, the US Government and scientific community pretty much shrugged.

The Thorium Battery you mentioned, it would be so cheap and easy to produce from the infrastructure that the LFTR (liquid thorium reactors) that every home could be 100% self sufficent inside 2 decades and all of the old large scale power plants, all of that high voltage electrical lines would be as useful as telegraph technology.

Today to enslave a people you just control the energy. Not only works here at home to keep your citizens in check, it also works abroad.
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
bump
Bowyn Aerrow

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03/31/2012 05:50 AM
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Sorry, no one is interested. Perhaps if the title Read Black on White Thorium beating each other up you would perk up more interest?

GLP seems more interested in the hate messages now days than real stuff anymore.
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03/31/2012 06:08 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Yeah, no one cares. Sane, reasonable solutions to energy problems are not in vogue on this forum. Maybe add David Wilcox, Galactic Federation, or BREAKING to the title.
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03/31/2012 06:32 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Yeah, no one cares. Sane, reasonable solutions to energy problems are not in vogue on this forum. Maybe add David Wilcox, Galactic Federation, or BREAKING to the title.
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I will give this very worthy thread a UK bump
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03/31/2012 06:35 AM

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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
bump So how do we make them?
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
bump So how do we make them?
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Ya some one help !
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03/31/2012 06:50 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
thorium batteries

that's what i am talking

its like we can be the thorium battery people of earth and take over the univers or somekthing





babe'

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03/31/2012 08:26 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Sorry, no one is interested. Perhaps if the title Read Black on White Thorium beating each other up you would perk up more interest?

GLP seems more interested in the hate messages now days than real stuff anymore.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


Certainly looks that way.
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03/31/2012 08:37 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
This is very interesting!
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03/31/2012 08:41 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Thorium Polonium batteries are banned as being a possible source to make a dirty nuke.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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03/31/2012 08:43 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Great stuff OP, was just discussing this the other day with my roommate. Some other GLPer was speaking of this, and he's studying biomolecular engineering. Really great stuff
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
I can find absolutely no proof even on the dark internet of this actually being made or plans or instructions to make it.
Therefore it must be highly complex or maybe only still a theory, no one can find this illusive Dimitri person so they may very well be a hoax.
RedlicoriceRedux

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03/31/2012 08:52 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Bad idea for the general populace. Just look what we did with the acid batteries of the past.
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03/31/2012 08:54 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Bad idea for the general populace. Just look what we did with the acid batteries of the past.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


bsflag stop your anti nuke propaganda green tard
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03/31/2012 08:56 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
While were at it:

Thread: LFTR The Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor!

Frater
LVX!
RedlicoriceRedux

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03/31/2012 08:58 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Bad idea for the general populace. Just look what we did with the acid batteries of the past.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


bsflag stop your anti nuke propaganda green tard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12793689


happyapple

Never.
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Bad idea for the general populace. Just look what we did with the acid batteries of the past.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


bsflag stop your anti nuke propaganda green tard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12793689


:happyapple:

Never.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


Dirty filthy commie go suck chairman Mao dick
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03/31/2012 09:00 AM
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 Quoting: Frater


Yes that the reactor, which is sure 1000 times better than Uranium reactors.
But how would you make this into a battery? Because even the reactor still has to heat water to make steam to power a turbine.
RedlicoriceRedux

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03/31/2012 09:02 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
Bad idea for the general populace. Just look what we did with the acid batteries of the past.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


bsflag stop your anti nuke propaganda green tard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12793689


happyapple

Never.
 Quoting: RedlicoriceRedux


Dirty filthy commie go suck chairman Mao dick
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12793689


You have a filthy mind.
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03/31/2012 09:25 AM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
i just went to my local hardware store, bought some thorium and my battery is working great.tomorrow ill install it in my car, thanx for the post
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05/06/2012 08:05 PM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
[link to www.theenvironmentsite.org]

Thorium Battery inventor found dead in Russia with his teeth pulled out and hands cut off.

[link to exposingcensorship.blogspot.com]

Government Censors Hard At Work On Thorium Plasma Battery That Lives Longer Than People Without A Single Recharge!
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05/06/2012 08:26 PM
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Sorry, no one is interested. Perhaps if the title Read Black on White Thorium beating each other up you would perk up more interest?

GLP seems more interested in the hate messages now days than real stuff anymore.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


Unfortunately you're right. But fantastic info just the same!
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05/06/2012 08:27 PM
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Re: Nuclear Thorium Battery
I smell Steven Greer money begging