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Oregon church says: GOD..Prefers Kind Atheists Over Hateful Christians....

 
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WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?????

A controversial sign was placed outside Rose City Park United Methodist Church in Portland, Ore., last week reading

"God Prefers Kind Atheists Over Hateful Christians," and has attracted a variety of responses to the pastor's message.

The Rev. Tom Tate of Rose City Park UMC decided to put up what he calls a "non-churchy" message, the United Methodist Portal reported, and which he hoped would offer passersby a different view of atheist-Christian relations.

The sign has garnered attention at a viral pace, thanks to a posting on the church's Facebook page, in which the photo appeared under the heading "This is how WE roll...how do you?"

The Rev. Tate commented on the sign the following day, writing on Facebook, "What's all the fuss about? That God prefers kindness over hate? I would think that's a given.

Isn't that the meaning of one of the most often quoted parables: the Good Samaritan? As far as Jesus' crowd was concerned Samaritans were atheists. What was Jesus meaning? Did the Samaritan convert to the 'right beliefs.' Not according to the story. As a matter of fact, it was the teachers of law, those with 'right beliefs' who didn't get it; who 'passed by.'"

"As an atheist, I strongly appreciate this sentiment from you guys, but I am still an atheist. I am glad, though, that you acknowledge that there are a LOT of hateful Christians out there. Thank you Rose City Park United. I would expect nothing less from a Portland church but tolerance," wrote Valerie Kolm.

However, others were unsure of who exactly the Rose City Park church, a 385-member congregation, might have been referencing with "hateful Christians."

"Are people that have 'tradition' in their heart, and 'personal' responsibility in their mind, hateful? I'm unsure of what your definition of a 'hateful' Christian is?" asked Steve Jansen.

[link to www.christianpost.com]


Unless we find a way to speak to people of our time, we're not going to be around," the Rev. Tate said. He admitted to have seen the message somewhere else, which gave him the idea for the sign, but could not recall where.

SO THE PASTOR MAKES UP LIES.. LIKE PEOPLE THOUGHT SAMARITANS WERE ATHEISTS WHICH THEY DID NOT...THEY WERE jewish people FROM SAMARIA..THE NORTHERN KINGDOM...


THE PASTOR IS MORE INTERESTED IN TICKLING PEOPLE's EARS....

WHAT TO THE SECULAR WORLD MAKES CHRISTIANS HATEFUL LIKE THE HATEFUL TIM TEBOW AND SARAH PALIN...

1. Their stance agaisnt Abortion

2. Their stance agaisnt GAY Marriage

3. Their stance agaisnt a socialist government


THE PASTOR NEEDS THESE WORDS ON HIS SIGN...

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Re: Oregon church says: GOD..Prefers Kind Atheists Over Hateful Christians....
I guess the Pastor has omitted these scriptures from his teaching:


Isaiah 30:10 They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.


1 Timothy 1:10 for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine..

2 Timothy 1:13 What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.


2 Timothy 3:1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.


Jude 1:18 They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires."

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Re: Oregon church says: GOD..Prefers Kind Atheists Over Hateful Christians....
I think the net pretty much proves the kind atheists are a minority.
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I think the net pretty much proves the kind atheists are a minority.
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Yeah..so become a christian..here is HOW!

1)First ya have to say a sinners prayer.

2)Then you have to go to church three times a week(At least)..each time giving ten percent of whats in your wallet to the fat dude up the front who drives luxury cars and lives in a mansion.

3)Then you have to learn to hate everyone else thats NOT a fundie seeing them as doomed and not worth your trouble to love or help or feed..as ALL your time and money gets dedicated to the fat greedy pastor up the front..

4)After a while you have to learn to HATE all other fundies or denominations with a PASSION and see THEM as wrong and DOOMED as well..if they so much as disagree with your denominations view on what day to worship..or what to eat..or the rapture debate..or even if adam had a belly button. (Ive seen churches coime apart over this..seriously)

5)You also must LOOK like the world...dress like the world..act like the world...set your church up to look like a rock concert hall..and fornicate and divorce and sleep around with all the women in the church..all the while condemning others of the world who do this. In short..you have to be as CLOSE as possible to what the world IS..but EXCUSE all your "Sins" with the "Im not perfect..just forgiven CRAP"

After doing all of this..THEN..you just might..according to THEM..be worthy of heaven.
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Re: Oregon church says: GOD..Prefers Kind Atheists Over Hateful Christians....
I think your looking at the sign wrong. I understand the sign perfectly, because there are many in my community who are CHRISTIAN IN NAME ONLY.

They lie, cheat, steal, have abortions, march for Planned Parenthood, have affairs, and are outright mean and hateful to everyone around them. But they set in the front pew every Sunday.

These are the hateful Christians that this sign speaks of. We have lots of them here in Oregon.
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I think your looking at the sign wrong. I understand the sign perfectly, because there are many in my community who are CHRISTIAN IN NAME ONLY.

They lie, cheat, steal, have abortions, march for Planned Parenthood, have affairs, and are outright mean and hateful to everyone around them. But they set in the front pew every Sunday.

These are the hateful Christians that this sign speaks of. We have lots of them here in Oregon.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Well you have a point there....

The Letter to the 7 Churches in the Book of Revelation speaks of this type of Church in the last days and this kind of Christian...
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I think your looking at the sign wrong. I understand the sign perfectly, because there are many in my community who are CHRISTIAN IN NAME ONLY.

They lie, cheat, steal, have abortions, march for Planned Parenthood, have affairs, and are outright mean and hateful to everyone around them. But they set in the front pew every Sunday.

These are the hateful Christians that this sign speaks of. We have lots of them here in Oregon.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


As well as in my part of the world. There is a big difference between being hated and being hateful. I have been the former; I try not to be the latter.

However, the details of the message do bother me, just like they bother the OP.
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I like the sign, and IMHO, its Spot On.
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Christians have the right to hate as God hates sin and so they must as well.

See them in action here - [link to www.flickr.com]
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I like the sign, and IMHO, its Spot On.
 Quoting: tandym


What makes a Christian individual hateful?
Susie

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Re: Oregon church says: GOD..Prefers Kind Atheists Over Hateful Christians....
WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?

Power of righteousness inflected by a million biblical book verses that contradict there own faith. So anger & doom can put fear in others to reassure there story book righteousness rules all other believes.

Look at the many differnt names of jewish people that story book headliners that have been revised over & over to weed out the mess of contridiction over who is the most right. Altering difinetion to coinside with propaganda that some how may be close to a tragic event of today.

Most all of this book verse spew Jesus knew nothing of. It was from a earlier & later time .
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but us pleasant pagans can still fuck off, i hope.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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I like the sign, and IMHO, its Spot On.
 Quoting: tandym


What makes a Christian individual hateful?
 Quoting: christian


Elitism. That's the root of it.

People are just people, no matter where you go. Some are good, some are bad. Some are meh.

This goes for Christians, jewish people, Buddhists, Atheists, etc.

The sign is not stating that Christians are hateful, only that a Chtristian who bears hate in his heart, rather than love is not following God's wishes as closely as an Atheist who bears love for his fellow man, regardless of his lack of belief in God.
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WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?

Power of righteousness inflected by a million biblical book verses that contradict there own faith. So anger & doom can put fear in others to reassure there story book righteousness rules all other believes.

Look at the many differnt names of jewish people that story book headliners that have been revised over & over to weed out the mess of contridiction over who is the most right. Altering difinetion to coinside with propaganda that some how may be close to a tragic event of today.

Most all of this book verse spew Jesus knew nothing of. It was from a earlier & later time .
 Quoting: MoonChildChazz


Yepper peace
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

)O(
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but us pleasant pagans can still fuck off, i hope.
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hehehehehe ohyeah
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

)O(
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WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?

Power of righteousness inflected by a million biblical book verses that contradict there own faith. So anger & doom can put fear in others to reassure there story book righteousness rules all other believes.

Look at the many differnt names of jewish people that story book headliners that have been revised over & over to weed out the mess of contridiction over who is the most right. Altering difinetion to coinside with propaganda that some how may be close to a tragic event of today.

Most all of this book verse spew Jesus knew nothing of. It was from a earlier & later time .
 Quoting: MoonChildChazz


Still does not make one a Hateful Person..

That is not even the definition of Hate or Hateful..
Susie

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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that church is right by my house... I will pay it a visit and try to 'enlighten' those people.
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WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?

Power of righteousness inflected by a million biblical book verses that contradict there own faith. So anger & doom can put fear in others to reassure there story book righteousness rules all other believes.

Look at the many differnt names of jewish people that story book headliners that have been revised over & over to weed out the mess of contridiction over who is the most right. Altering difinetion to coinside with propaganda that some how may be close to a tragic event of today.

Most all of this book verse spew Jesus knew nothing of. It was from a earlier & later time .
 Quoting: MoonChildChazz


Still does not make one a Hateful Person..

That is not even the definition of Hate or Hateful..
 Quoting: christian


I disagree. Elitism breeds contempt. Contempt leads to disdain and disdain leads to neglect. Neglect might as well be 'hate'. Its only about one degree away...

Elitism: "I am Christian, therefor what I say is right and what you say is wrong, because I know better."

Contempt: "My religion is superior to yours, I have no need to expand my horizons or my pattern of thought. Its already been provided to me and what I know now is all I will ever need to know."

Disdain: "Stop speaking foolish one and let me school you in the only thought that matters."

Neglect: "Why bother? There's no hope for them with small minds."

Hate: "Those small-minded faithless ones will burn in hell for they do not know what I know and there's no way Jesus could love them enough to open his arms to them because he only has room in his heart for people like me."
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WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?

Power of righteousness inflected by a million biblical book verses that contradict there own faith. So anger & doom can put fear in others to reassure there story book righteousness rules all other believes.

Look at the many differnt names of jewish people that story book headliners that have been revised over & over to weed out the mess of contridiction over who is the most right. Altering difinetion to coinside with propaganda that some how may be close to a tragic event of today.

Most all of this book verse spew Jesus knew nothing of. It was from a earlier & later time .
 Quoting: MoonChildChazz


Still does not make one a Hateful Person..

That is not even the definition of Hate or Hateful..
 Quoting: christian


I disagree. Elitism breeds contempt. Contempt leads to disdain and disdain leads to neglect. Neglect might as well be 'hate'. Its only about one degree away...

Elitism: "I am Christian, therefor what I say is right and what you say is wrong, because I know better."

Contempt: "My religion is superior to yours, I have no need to expand my horizons or my pattern of thought. Its already been provided to me and what I know now is all I will ever need to know."

Disdain: "Stop speaking foolish one and let me school you in the only thought that matters."

Neglect: "Why bother? There's no hope for them with small minds."

Hate: "Those small-minded faithless ones will burn in hell for they do not know what I know and there's no way Jesus could love them enough to open his arms to them because he only has room in his heart for people like me."
 Quoting: tandym


First off saying Jesus Christ is the Way the Truth and the Life is far from hateful, unless one thinks Jesus Words are *Hateful*

There are Christians all around the world helping people bringing hope, faith and love all found in the Good News of Christ Jesus for instance the Christians that are helping the Palawano People in the most remote part of the Phillipines giving them Medicine, setting up hospitals, bringing materials for housing and telling them all about Jesus Christ.....

Every human being is flawed, but Jesus Christ is Perfect and that makes his Testimony Perfect and spoken with Truth and Love, therefore the Christian Message is the farthest thing from HATE one can get....

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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WHAT MAKES A CHRISTIAN HATEFUL?

Power of righteousness inflected by a million biblical book verses that contradict there own faith. So anger & doom can put fear in others to reassure there story book righteousness rules all other believes.

Look at the many differnt names of jewish people that story book headliners that have been revised over & over to weed out the mess of contridiction over who is the most right. Altering difinetion to coinside with propaganda that some how may be close to a tragic event of today.

Most all of this book verse spew Jesus knew nothing of. It was from a earlier & later time .
 Quoting: MoonChildChazz


Still does not make one a Hateful Person..

That is not even the definition of Hate or Hateful..
 Quoting: christian


I disagree. Elitism breeds contempt. Contempt leads to disdain and disdain leads to neglect. Neglect might as well be 'hate'. Its only about one degree away...

Elitism: "I am Christian, therefor what I say is right and what you say is wrong, because I know better."

Contempt: "My religion is superior to yours, I have no need to expand my horizons or my pattern of thought. Its already been provided to me and what I know now is all I will ever need to know."

Disdain: "Stop speaking foolish one and let me school you in the only thought that matters."

Neglect: "Why bother? There's no hope for them with small minds."

Hate: "Those small-minded faithless ones will burn in hell for they do not know what I know and there's no way Jesus could love them enough to open his arms to them because he only has room in his heart for people like me."
 Quoting: tandym


First off saying Jesus Christ is the Way the Truth and the Life is far from hateful, unless one thinks Jesus Words are *Hateful*

There are Christians all around the world helping people bringing hope, faith and love all found in the Good News of Christ Jesus for instance the Christians that are helping the Palawano People in the most remote part of the Phillipines giving them Medicine, setting up hospitals, bringing materials for housing and telling them all about Jesus Christ.....

Every human being is flawed, but Jesus Christ is Perfect and that makes his Testimony Perfect and spoken with Truth and Love, therefore the Christian Message is the farthest thing from HATE one can get....

 Quoting: christian


You don't get it.......and as long as you cling to your religion you won't.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

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