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NEW JERSEY to take down OBAMA

 
D.O.D STEVE
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Today, April 10, 2012, Nicholas E. Purpura and Theodore T. Moran had their Barack Obama primary ballot objection heard by Deputy Director and Administrative Law Judge, Jeff S. Masin, at the Office of Administrative Law, 9 Quakerbridge Plaza, Mercerville (Hamilton Twp.), New Jersey 08619. The case started about 9:30 a.m. and lasted to about 1:00 p.m. I represented the Objectors. Mr. Obama was represented by Alexandra Hill of the firm of Genova, Burn & Giantomasi of Newark, New Jersey.

We argued that Mr. Obama has not met his burden of showing that he is eligible to be on the New Jersey primary ballot by showing that he is a “natural born Citizen.” We argued that he has not presented any evidence to the New Jersey Secretary of State showing who he is and that he was born in the United States. We also argued that as a matter of law, Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” because he was born to a father who was not a U.S. citizen.

Obama’s attorney made a motion to dismiss the Objection in its entirety. She argued that it was not relevant to being placed on the ballot whether Mr. Obama is a “natural born Citizen,” where he was born, and whether he was born to U.S. citizen parents. She said that no law in New Jersey obligated him to produce any such evidence in order to get on the primary ballot. We argued that Mr. Obama under the Constitution has to be a “natural born Citizen.” We argued that under New Jersey law (the state constitution, statutes, and case law), Mr. Obama must show that he is qualified for the office he wishes to occupy and that includes showing that he is a “natural born Citizen,” which includes presenting evidence of who he is, where he was born, and that he was born to two U.S. citizen parents. We argued that the Secretary of State has a constitutional obligation not to place any ineligible candidates on the election ballot. Judge Masin denied Obama’s motion to dismiss and the case proceeded to trial.
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cool i hear bon jovi will be singing in court
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Please God, let one judge accidentally rule in favor of justice.
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is Christie gonna sit on him?
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Surprisingly...
New Jersey was once the most corrupt state in the Union but is now ranked the LEAST corrupt.

If only we had more delegates in the pool for it to make a huge difference.

Obama NOT being on the ticket here will not make a huge difference in itself, but it WOULD set precedence for other states to cite if their constitutions and election laws are similar.

I will def be watching this blog tomorrow.

BTW, this has NOT been on our local TV news.

I will have to check the papers.
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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iamwith
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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iamwith
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you know, in our society, we rely on phds, mds, journalists, brokers, and others for professional advice.
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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iamwith
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no you are the stupid one. you dumb fucks are so desperate it is sad.
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Just let him be! He has AIDS for gods sake!
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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iamwith
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you know, in our society, we rely on phds, mds, journalists, brokers, and others for professional advice.
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No. In our society we rely on laws, courts, judges and things like the U.S. Constitution. Only sheep rely on journalists and only idiots rely on PhD's and MDs. Don't even get me started on brokers.
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The BC is irrelevant.

He is not a natural born because his Father was a foreign national.


Miss the point much?
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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iamwith
 Quoting: CatBTX


you know, in our society, we rely on phds, mds, journalists, brokers, and others for professional advice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13663679


No. In our society we rely on laws, courts, judges and things like the U.S. Constitution. Only sheep rely on journalists and only idiots rely on PhD's and MDs. Don't even get me started on brokers.
 Quoting: CatBTX


RIGHT HERE DUMB ASS!!!
[link to www.cnn.com]
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new world order will have judge dismiss. It's time people. We can't fix this! Christ has too fix it. mej.com
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new world order will have judge dismiss. It's time people. We can't fix this! Christ has too fix it. mej.com
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Just let him be! He has AIDS for gods sake!
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I still think someone is slipping him meth. XD
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iamwith
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you know, in our society, we rely on phds, mds, journalists, brokers, and others for professional advice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13663679


No. In our society we rely on laws, courts, judges and things like the U.S. Constitution. Only sheep rely on journalists and only idiots rely on PhD's and MDs. Don't even get me started on brokers.
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RIGHT HERE DUMB ASS!!!
[link to www.cnn.com]
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CNN. Bah Bah Bah!

sheeplebah
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The BC is irrelevant.

He is not a natural born because his Father was a foreign national.


Miss the point much?
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DOESN'T MATTER. ONLY ONE PARENT MUST BE A US CITIZEN. MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO ONLY ONE PARENT US CITIZEN IN UK WHILE I WAS ON AN OFFICIAL ASSIGNMENT THERE.
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Obama needs to have a DNA test to solve it once and for all--
unless his dads first name is Malcom
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you know, in our society, we rely on phds, mds, journalists, brokers, and others for professional advice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13663679


No. In our society we rely on laws, courts, judges and things like the U.S. Constitution. Only sheep rely on journalists and only idiots rely on PhD's and MDs. Don't even get me started on brokers.
 Quoting: CatBTX


RIGHT HERE DUMB ASS!!!
[link to www.cnn.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13663679


CNN. Bah Bah Bah!

sheeplebah
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WHAT NEXT? YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THAT YURIY GAGARIN WASN'T THE FIRST MAN IN SPACE BECAUSE IT WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE COMMUNIST NEWS?
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Obama needs to have a DNA test to solve it once and for all--
unless his dads first name is Malcom
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he doesn't need no stinkin dna test. his mother was a us citizen. that's enough. only one parent needs to be a us citizen for you to be born a us citizen.
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
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ANYONE who relies on a journalist for anything is an idiot. I may get a cue from one but do the research on my own. I have a brain and prefer to use it rather than let someone else tell me what is right.

Same holds true for doctors, lawyers, Tax advisers and brokers.

I may utilize their services but in the end it is MY responsibility to be informed and make the right decision.

Ever read the fine print of the contracts you sign?

As far as ANYONE's eligibility to run for ANY office, that is my responsibility as well.

If my state is dumb enough to let an unqualified person on the ticket, it is my responsibility to contest it and to NOT vote for them.

You don;t think that any of these people really work for you, do you?
They work to put money in their wallets just like you do. It can not and should not be assumed that they are competent or ethical in administering their jobs.
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you know, these people are complete idiots. the birth certificates have been released and verified by the professional journalists and others and have been posted for everyone to see. why don't these idiots just fuck off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13663679


ANYONE who relies on a journalist for anything is an idiot. I may get a cue from one but do the research on my own. I have a brain and prefer to use it rather than let someone else tell me what is right.

Same holds true for doctors, lawyers, Tax advisers and brokers.

I may utilize their services but in the end it is MY responsibility to be informed and make the right decision.

Ever read the fine print of the contracts you sign?

As far as ANYONE's eligibility to run for ANY office, that is my responsibility as well.

If my state is dumb enough to let an unqualified person on the ticket, it is my responsibility to contest it and to NOT vote for them.

You don;t think that any of these people really work for you, do you?
They work to put money in their wallets just like you do. It can not and should not be assumed that they are competent or ethical in administering their jobs.
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your argument is invalid
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The BC is irrelevant.

He is not a natural born because his Father was a foreign national.


Miss the point much?
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DOESN'T MATTER. ONLY ONE PARENT MUST BE A US CITIZEN. MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO ONLY ONE PARENT US CITIZEN IN UK WHILE I WAS ON AN OFFICIAL ASSIGNMENT THERE.
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The issue isn't citizenship. The issue is that per the Constitution, both parents must be citizens which right there disqualifies him. He also registered for Occidental college as a FOREIGN student and got a scholarship as a FOREIGN student under his adopted father's name. (BTW, there's no proof he ever legally changed his name back to Obama.) The whole thing about where he was born has become an issue because he's refused to show a LEGAL birth certificate from Hawaii since that's where HE SAID he was born. At this point, he's spent over $800,000 for a legal defense to not have to show the court his birth certificate. Obviously he can't produce a birth certificate.

He also is using a Connecticut Social Security number. The first three digits of your SS are for the state you were born in. In my generation, it was the state where you lived at the time you started working. He NEVER lived and worked in CT. So his SS number needs some explaining as well.

NJ is right to take this action. Hope the judge agrees.
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The BC is irrelevant.

He is not a natural born because his Father was a foreign national.


Miss the point much?
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DOESN'T MATTER. ONLY ONE PARENT MUST BE A US CITIZEN. MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO ONLY ONE PARENT US CITIZEN IN UK WHILE I WAS ON AN OFFICIAL ASSIGNMENT THERE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13663679



The issue isn't citizenship. The issue is that per the Constitution, both parents must be citizens which right there disqualifies him. He also registered for Occidental college as a FOREIGN student and got a scholarship as a FOREIGN student under his adopted father's name. (BTW, there's no proof he ever legally changed his name back to Obama.) The whole thing about where he was born has become an issue because he's refused to show a LEGAL birth certificate from Hawaii since that's where HE SAID he was born. At this point, he's spent over $800,000 for a legal defense to not have to show the court his birth certificate. Obviously he can't produce a birth certificate.

He also is using a Connecticut Social Security number. The first three digits of your SS are for the state you were born in. In my generation, it was the state where you lived at the time you started working. He NEVER lived and worked in CT. So his SS number needs some explaining as well.

NJ is right to take this action. Hope the judge agrees.
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my daughter was born as an american citizen even though her mother was a russian citizen and even though she was born in UK. i was there on an official assignment. i know the law. you don't know jack shit.





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