88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more!

Are you guys kidding? It's the same measure that's been used for every single President. Why would it be fair to suddenly include the people who aren't looking for work or claiming benefits just because it's Obama? The bias is strong indeed.

I personally know SEVERAL people who are long-term unemployed or underemployed ( part -time work ), but not counted in any of the unemployment statistics.

Rest assured, the leftist, rubber-stamp media will DECLARE before November that we are now "under 8% " unemployment, and we're in full recovery mode.

88 Million is not 1 in 3 Americans op. It's 1 in 4.

There are 331 million People in the U.S.

Math=Fail.

It shouldn't surprise any of us OP when people don't do their own investigations and rely on propaganda websites like you do.


[link to data.worldbank.org]

That is the statistics. It's called labor force participation rates and it's measured in every UN country. Of course you wont even research what it means or how it's measured. But here it is for you anyway.

We are no worse off than any other country.

Not true. Means of counting unemployment were changed during the Clinton administration. Also, lots of job growth is seasonally calculated using the "birth-death model" -- google it.

Shadowstats is significant, because John Williams tries to calculate everything the way it was before it changed (including inflation before hedonic calculations swapped out "pink slime" for steaks because people could no longer afford to buy steaks). That website also explains the changes. Not pumping it, just encouraging people to view its educational info:

[link to www.shadowstats.com]

88 Million is not 1 in 3 Americans op. It's 1 in 4.

There are 331 million People in the U.S.

Math=Fail.

It shouldn't surprise any of us OP when people don't do their own investigations and rely on propaganda websites like you do.


[link to data.worldbank.org]

That is the statistics. It's called labor force participation rates and it's measured in every UN country. Of course you wont even research what it means or how it's measured. But here it is for you anyway.

We are no worse off than any other country.

Be Patriotic: Don’t Vote

Another snippet from the original link in my first post:

The Obama administration is pulling out all the stops. If the real story came out – that the true unemployment rate in this country (those out of work plus those who the government deems as no longer participating) is almost triple that of the official BLS U-3 rate of 8.2% – confidence in the financial markets and the government’s ability to mitigate the crisis would be lost almost immediately. So, too, would Obama’s hope for another four years of fundamentally changing America.

But just because the President and his media conglomerates are preaching of recovery doesn’t mean that everyone believes it. A large portion of Americans, especially those millions of people without jobs, are not going to be swayed by the mainstream propaganda. They are living in a modern day depression right here and now, and they, too, will be headed to the polls in November. And, as Jim Clifton, CEO of Gallup, recently pointed out to RT, they don’t care about anything else except for their personal economic and financial circumstances.

[link to rt.com]

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I have been saying this for awhile but now hard data confirms it. Unemployment is more likely 15-20% or higher. Jobs are out there but are harder to find and often times looking in the classified ads you will see the same 20-30 jobs being posted over and over month in and month out.

Full Article: [link to www.shtfplan.com]
[Less than 50% post, rest at link above and data source link at the end of this post]

With recovery in full swing and unemployment dropping to an Obama administration near record low of 8.2%, the US economy seems to be bouncing back stronger than ever. Unless, of course, you look at the numbers no one in mainstream media, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, or the administration is talking about. As many of our readers already know, the official unemployment rates released monthly by the BLS (U-3, U-6) fail to account for one very key figure – those individuals who are no longer in the labor force.

The number of those folks – the ones that don’t matter anymore because counting them would hinder the President’s reelection bid – is absolutely staggering for what is supposed to be the engine of the global economy and the world’s only super power:

Were it not for people dropping out of the labor force, the unemployment rate would be well over 11%.

Over the past several years people have dropped out of the labor force at an astounding, almost unbelievable rate, holding the unemployment rate artificially low. Some of this was due to major revisions last month on account of the 2010 census finally factored in. However, most of it is simply economic weakness.

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In the last year, the civilian population rose by 3,604,000. Yet the labor force only rose by 1,315,000. Those not in the labor force rose by 2,289,000.

The Civilian Labor Force fell by 164,000.

Those “Not in Labor Force” increased by 310,000. If you are not in the labor force, you are not counted as unemployed.

Those “Not in Labor Force” is at a new record high of 87,897,000.

Source: Townhall Finance: [link to finance.townhall.com]

Spot on, spot on you hit it right on the head. Our unemployment is much higher and much of the data isn't counted and for a good reason. And the funny thing is that the ones not in the labor force are a drain on the resources of the ones that are in the labor force. You may say so what that is just natural and your right, but we have alot of people in jobs that don't pay like it used too and so there is less money to spend and the GDP doesn't grow as much.

This is no different to European style unemployment rates. Unemployment looks bad for politicians. Anything to skew the numbers for them is a good thing for them.

Are you guys kidding? It's the same measure that's been used for every single President. Why would it be fair to suddenly include the people who aren't looking for work or claiming benefits just because it's Obama? The bias is strong indeed.

We need something like a civilian monitoring system. Something to be able to check on the well and being of big brother government and politicians. They bring the rights/etc/laws forward and we have a jury or rather a panel that is pre selected and screened through common sense and fairness.

You can only look at the "real" figure objectively by comparing it to previous presidencies adjusted to include the "real figure", and when you do that suddenly those presidents who appeared to have good employment rates don't seem as good as people think...

The fact is that the current official unemployment rate is now not far off what it was when Bush left office, anything less by November will show that Obama has steered America away from the recession that started under a Republican presidency and towards recovery. The final Bush year was a disgrace ecomonically.

Just wait till all the homeless, deadbeats, and destitute are rounded up and placed in FEMA CAMPS, They will be really fucking invisible then. They will be placed there under the guise of "We are trying to help you, this is for your own good". You can go there and learn how to dig holes, your own graves that is.