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WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... | |
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| morvis User ID: 14655422 United States04/18/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... just because they 'identify themselves' to align with a certain religion / denomination doesnt necessarily mean they 'are Christian'. Matthew 7:22 ish I believe it is covers that. Plus most people lie on those polls. Statistics are too often cooked and hand picked to get the results their looking for. |
| DirkaFaShirka (OP) User ID: 7615963 United States04/18/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... just because they 'identify themselves' to align with a certain religion / denomination doesnt necessarily mean they 'are Christian'. Matthew 7:22 ish I believe it is covers that. Quoting: morvis Plus most people lie on those polls. Statistics are too often cooked and hand picked to get the results their looking for. So you are saying that Christian women don't get abortions? How do you think those women would feel if they knew you were calling them 'fake' and that the polls don't really matter? If the only way you can argue this is to negate the evidence, then you fail. Try again.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5616706 United States04/18/2012 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical". Atheists are only 10% of the population. Yet they are having 23% of all Abortions. Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions. That means Atheists are are have abortions 319% as much as protestants. You fail a math. 23/10=2.3 37/51=0.72 2.3/0.72=3.19 Now that's 6th grade math so if you don't understand it. Then kindly fuck off. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5616706 United States04/18/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706 Atheists are only 10% of the population. Yet they are having 23% of all Abortions. Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions. That means Atheists are are have abortions 319% as much as protestants. You fail a math. 23/10=2.3 37/51=0.72 2.3/0.72=3.19 Now that's 6th grade math so if you don't understand it. Then kindly fuck off. Truthfully it's more like 2nd grade math but atheists are stupid I didn't want to make someone feel bad. |
| Albino Rhino User ID: 9985180 United States04/18/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... just because they 'identify themselves' to align with a certain religion / denomination doesnt necessarily mean they 'are Christian'. Matthew 7:22 ish I believe it is covers that. Quoting: morvis Plus most people lie on those polls. Statistics are too often cooked and hand picked to get the results their looking for. 100% correct. You can't "say" your Christian. You have to "live" like a Christian. If you don't walk the walk, you have no right to talk the talk. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14637652  United Kingdom04/18/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Are the politicians that use abortion as a platform "real Christians"? What about all those affairs, taking from the poor, etc that they do? Should these obviously fake Christian politicians really be dictating what other "fake" Christians do to their unborns (as obviously the real Christians are at home popping out babies and not having abortions to begin with)? Silly humans. Go be a real christian, adopt a kid that didn't get a aborted, and bring me a sandwich. |
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| DirkaFaShirka (OP) User ID: 7615963 United States04/18/2012 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706 Atheists are only 10% of the population. Yet they are having 23% of all Abortions. Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions. That means Atheists are are have abortions 319% as much as protestants. You fail a math. 23/10=2.3 37/51=0.72 2.3/0.72=3.19 Now that's 6th grade math so if you don't understand it. Then kindly fuck off. Truthfully it's more like 2nd grade math but atheists are stupid I didn't want to make someone feel bad. "Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions." Maybe I should rephrase the question: How do Christians account for having ANY abortions? I'll give you the math part because I suck at math, whatever, but the fact remains this: I'm not saying athiests are any better or worse (especially since I'm not one), what I am saying or rather asking is why are there ANY abortions in the Christian community? This was asked by my Persuasion in Social Movements professor. She would have argued against your #'s, and pressed me for an answer just the same. So now I'm asking you. BTW, the assignment was turned in a week ago; I just couldn't help ask what GLP had to say since there are many, many religtards lurking around here. Also, I am spiritually active and am NOT an athiest... |
| DirkaFaShirka (OP) User ID: 7615963 United States04/18/2012 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706 Atheists are only 10% of the population. Yet they are having 23% of all Abortions. Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions. That means Atheists are are have abortions 319% as much as protestants. You fail a math. 23/10=2.3 37/51=0.72 2.3/0.72=3.19 Now that's 6th grade math so if you don't understand it. Then kindly fuck off. Truthfully it's more like 2nd grade math but atheists are stupid I didn't want to make someone feel bad. "Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions." Maybe I should rephrase the question: How do Christians account for having ANY abortions? I'll give you the math part because I suck at math, whatever, but the fact remains this: I'm not saying athiests are any better or worse (especially since I'm not one), what I am saying or rather asking is why are there ANY abortions in the Christian community? This was asked by my Persuasion in Social Movements professor. She would have argued against your #'s, and pressed me for an answer just the same. So now I'm asking you. BTW, the assignment was turned in a week ago; I just couldn't help ask what GLP had to say since there are many, many religtards lurking around here. Also, I am spiritually active and am NOT an athiest... Yeah, I figured ^^ may be a little too complicated for you guys to answer. Religtards crash and burn... |
| Freedom of Choice User ID: 1351603 United States04/18/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... My grandmother was a big shot in the pharma/chem industry. She was also a midwife. They seriously knew what they were doing even though it seems like ancient history by today's standards. It went without saying that they had the means for every woman to manage unwanted pregnancy. You simply have to orally ingest Epsom salts. You take the dosage as you would for a laxative purge. It will be remedial. You need to do this as soon as you notice your late. Why weren't women provided with this knowledge? Just think of all the money that men would not have made off them. It is time for women to reclaim their power. You are not LESS just because you are a woman. |
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| Oath User ID: 12672973  Canada04/18/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Anyone care to make a stab? Quoting: DirkaFaShirka [link to www.abortionno.org] UNITED STATES Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996) Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700 Who's having abortions (age)? 52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%. Who's having abortions (race)? While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely. Who's having abortions (marital status)? 64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%. Who's having abortions (religion)? Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical". Who's having abortions (income)? Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%. Why women have abortions 1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient). At what gestational ages are abortions performed: 52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy. Likelihood of abortion: An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. 47% of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one previous abortion. Abortion coverage: 48% of all abortion facilities provide services after the 12th week of pregnancy. 9 in 10 managed care plans routinely cover abortion or provide limited coverage. About 14% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds, virtually all of which are state funds. 16 states (CA, CT, HI, ED, IL, MA , MD, MD, MN, MT, NJ, NM, NY, OR, VT, WA and WV) pay for abortions for some poor women. © Copyright 1998, The Alan Guttmacher Institute. (www.agi-usa.org) © Copyright 1997, The Alan Guttmacher Institute. (www.agi-usa.org) © Copyright 1995, Family Planning Perspectives © Copyright 1988, Family Planning Perspectives identifying themselves as Many may claim to be Christian but that does not a Christian make. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8317324 United States04/18/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5616706 Atheists are only 10% of the population. Yet they are having 23% of all Abortions. Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions. That means Atheists are are have abortions 319% as much as protestants. You fail a math. 23/10=2.3 37/51=0.72 2.3/0.72=3.19 Now that's 6th grade math so if you don't understand it. Then kindly fuck off. Truthfully it's more like 2nd grade math but atheists are stupid I didn't want to make someone feel bad. "Protestants are 51% of the population yet only represent 37% of abortions." Maybe I should rephrase the question: How do Christians account for having ANY abortions? I'll give you the math part because I suck at math, whatever, but the fact remains this: I'm not saying athiests are any better or worse (especially since I'm not one), what I am saying or rather asking is why are there ANY abortions in the Christian community? This was asked by my Persuasion in Social Movements professor. She would have argued against your #'s, and pressed me for an answer just the same. So now I'm asking you. BTW, the assignment was turned in a week ago; I just couldn't help ask what GLP had to say since there are many, many religtards lurking around here. Also, I am spiritually active and am NOT an athiest... Yeah, I figured ^^ may be a little too complicated for you guys to answer. Religtards crash and burn...  Daddy satan give ya a lolly pop for your exercize? What I find more telling is the "Why women have abortions 1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest" statement. The ole' heart string argument is thrown out the window for the justification of MURDER. You would think that 99% of all baby murders were because of this shill argument. Besides, any bitch that would kill her baby, would lie on a fucking survey. |
| morvis User ID: 14659357 United States04/18/2012 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... just because they 'identify themselves' to align with a certain religion / denomination doesnt necessarily mean they 'are Christian'. Matthew 7:22 ish I believe it is covers that. Quoting: morvis Plus most people lie on those polls. Statistics are too often cooked and hand picked to get the results their looking for. So you are saying that Christian women don't get abortions? How do you think those women would feel if they knew you were calling them 'fake' and that the polls don't really matter? If the only way you can argue this is to negate the evidence, then you fail. Try again.. Lol. Show me where I made that claim. How they feel is aside from the fact that people lie. You want to take some strangers claims of statistics as indisputable fact. Your logic is wrong. Feelings and facts are mutually exclusive. Theres no telling how many people taking the questionnaire or whatever saw "Christian - Baptist" or whatever they claimed and put a check next to it because their mom took them to Corner Baptist Church when they were 10 a few times, and consider that enough to call themselves Christian. I didn't lay empty accusation or blindly judge anyone, I just made a general logical reason and cited the source for my view on it. You did ask for opinions on why. And the opinion given is valid. |
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| Buddaroll User ID: 14638936 United Kingdom04/18/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... I have a question for you... Where are all the fathers of the children in this? Last time I checked, they had a hand in this as well. I am a Christian woman and I support the right for the parents to choose a legal and safe abortion. My theology is mine and it is not my place to force anyone else to live by my standards. I am responsible for only my actions and those of my children until they come of age. If either parent wants that child and it is safe for the pregnancy to continue, then the parent who wants the child should has right to raise it. If the mother does not want the child and the father does, he has the right to realize the birth of that child and raise it even if she does not. It is also reasonable to expect that he receive child support from the mother even if she chooses not to be involved after the birth. I have heard the argument that no one has the right to force the woman to go through an unwanted pregnancy but that is incorrect. The father has an equal right and has legal standing. Without his donation, there would be no pregnancy. The mother made her choice when she spread her legs. The inverse is true as well. In my opinion, the father has the right to charge the mother with the same charges anyone who through accident or intentionally committed a crime that resulted in the loss of a pregnancy would be charged if she aborts his child without his knowledge or consent. Women say they want to be treated equally. That would have to include reproductive issues as well. Equality is a two way street and it is time we recognize that the man has a say in the matter. We are so quick to point fingers when a man steps out of the picture, when you abort a man's child without his knowledge or consent that is exactly what you are doing to him only worse. He does not have the benefit of having that child like you do when he leaves. As for the math, yeah.. your math is skewed. There are a ton of people walking around who call themselves christian because they went to Sunday school when they were little but have not been back since. Also, the ratio of procedure percentages vs percentage of over-all population. Last Edited by Buddaroll on 04/18/2012 04:55 PM |
| WuDStefoto User ID: 14635588  Belgium04/18/2012 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... YES damn ;/ THOSE BITCHEZ ARE DOING IT SINCE LONG LONG TIME AGO THEY TRYING STOP (PREVENT) THE COMING OF ADVANCED SOULS - THOSE SOULS BRINGS KNOWLEDGE !!! THE REAL TRUE COSMIC-UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE THAT SHALL SET US FREE BUT GUESS WHAT ??? WE HAVE LEGALIZED ABORTION ............... so easy to manipulate a human today ... ;/ These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop) -> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <- is the only way youths listen to the Prophets !!! PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT??? [link to www.youtube.com] rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D peace2daUNIVERSE |
| Buddaroll User ID: 14638936 United Kingdom04/18/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... YES Quoting: WuDStefoto damn ;/ THOSE BITCHEZ ARE DOING IT SINCE LONG LONG TIME AGO THEY TRYING STOP (PREVENT) THE COMING OF ADVANCED SOULS - THOSE SOULS BRINGS KNOWLEDGE !!! THE REAL TRUE COSMIC-UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE THAT SHALL SET US FREE BUT GUESS WHAT ??? WE HAVE LEGALIZED ABORTION ............... so easy to manipulate a human today ... ;/ I doubt that any advanced soul would use the negative term "bitchez", Just sayin' Last Edited by Buddaroll on 04/18/2012 05:06 PM |
| WuDStefoto User ID: 14635588 Belgium04/18/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... ahahah LOL you really need A UNIVERSAL SCHOOL man - RE-read please I have not said I AM ADVANCED I've said that trough ABORTION - THEY TRY STOP ADVANCED SOULS FROM COMING ON EARTH ................. that's all Ive said and just for the ''record'' (I know even here there IS) so - YES - even ANGELZ CAN CURSE lol.. These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop) -> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <- is the only way youths listen to the Prophets !!! PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT??? [link to www.youtube.com] rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D peace2daUNIVERSE |
| Buddaroll User ID: 14638936 United Kingdom04/18/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... ahahah LOL Quoting: WuDStefoto you really need A UNIVERSAL SCHOOL man - RE-read please I have not said I AM ADVANCED I've said that trough ABORTION - THEY TRY STOP ADVANCED SOULS FROM COMING ON EARTH ................. that's all Ive said and just for the ''record'' (I know even here there IS) so - YES - even ANGELZ CAN CURSE lol.. I was poking fun at you for using the term.. Hence the Just sayin'!!! It was a funny, giggle and have a good day. BuddaBitch. ;-) |
| Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States04/18/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Because they don't want other christians to know that they *gasp* had sex. Their parents and their boyfriend pressure them, as well. At least an abortion isn't a visible 'sin'.... No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
| Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States04/18/2012 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... They are frequently the ones who are pressuring for an abortion. They don't want to have to pay for a child, so they push and push and threaten and warn... Happens all the time. Parents do it, too. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
| Buddaroll User ID: 14638936 United Kingdom04/18/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... They are frequently the ones who are pressuring for an abortion. They don't want to have to pay for a child, so they push and push and threaten and warn... Happens all the time. Parents do it, too. I know, I was hoping to get a mans point of view on my opinion. Their lack of response is a pretty loud answer. My opinion still stands though.. If we want to be treated equally as women, we have to treat men equal to how we want to be treated. |
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| Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States04/18/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... They are frequently the ones who are pressuring for an abortion. They don't want to have to pay for a child, so they push and push and threaten and warn... Happens all the time. Parents do it, too. I know, I was hoping to get a mans point of view on my opinion. Their lack of response is a pretty loud answer. My opinion still stands though.. If we want to be treated equally as women, we have to treat men equal to how we want to be treated. Agreed. It's not equality when only one sex has a "get out of responsibility cheap" card. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6791449 United States04/19/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF is w/this stat? - Christian women have more abortions in the U.S. than non-religious persons... Christian people on the whole as a matter of faith are opposed to abortion. Liberal theology however preaches a more social aka globalized gospel and so there is leniency with regards to that. A watered-down faith may not go out and command abortion but makes no preclusion to followers accepting them. We're discussing two aspects of the faith: those in the minority of the pious and observant sect, and secondly those of the typical Westernized liberal variety that are more invested in church as an instrument of social get-togethers and recreation than as an integral part of their being and meaning to life. What is a Christian? Is it someone who enjoys the community aspect, the social functions, or is it someone who reflects and dwells on faith based concepts and that faith serves as a compass for strength, hope, and morality in their lives? If you see the distinction you have your answer. |
