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THE MESSIAH WAS NOT RESURRECTED ON SUNDAY MORNING!YOU BEEN LIED TO, CASE CLOSED AND SOLVED PLEASE READ!

 
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Thank you again you few disciples who contributed to making this information avaialble to the young believers.It is my desire that the prideful will look at these facts and really humble themselves before the most high God Eh'Yeh

There is that belief that messiah was resurrected on a Sunday morning and it is not biblical or factual.It will be good to see fellow believers gettin together to resolve this myth though some hold it as factual.Based on this myth a new doctrine was introduced which I will comment on after your views and present more scriptural eveidencethat refutes this opinion


NOTES
This is my belief and this is true and can be found in the scriptures!
**Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!**.



I will give a starting point with two passages of scripture and we can work from there."*We see messiah is cut off in the middle of a prophetic week*"

The book of Daniel chapter 9

IOYU
Then shall the street walls be buyled agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. After these
Ixij. wekes, shall Christ be slayne,

5 they shall haue no pleasure in him. Then shall there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye
the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.

He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne and meatoffringe
.

And in the temple there shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this waistinge shall continue vnto the ende.


Here we have confirmation of 3 days and 3 nights in the grave

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

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Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas [NKJV: Jonah]:

40 For as Jonas [NKJV: Jonah] was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

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LET US START THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER!

To understand this we need to understand the culture of the hebrews of that time, so I will explian a couple things as we go forward into the word.
Let us also be mindful in the middle east in the messiah time and from creation the day started from the setting of the sun in the evening and ends at the setting of the sun the following evening.

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THE EVENING

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THE MORNING

Reference:The Book of Genesis chapter 1
:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.



**MOVING ON LET US LOOK AT SOME MORE FACTS GATHERED FROM ANOTHER BROTHER ON THE THREAD** "BUDDAROLL" THANK YOU!

clappa

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.


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**EXACTLY SO! AND I AGREE WITH THIS FINDING ABOVE 100% AND WE WILL JUSTIFY THIS BELOW**!


LOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!

Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

NOTES
:This sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath


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NOTES:Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after but they jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath that was approching in chapter 23.

Also we have a nother account in the book of Matthew Chapter 28 which Identifies the real time of the sabbath as it was drawing toward the first day.Like I explained about creation the new day starts from evening sunset then the morning, this account is more realistic



account #1
Matthew Chapter 28
28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.


account #2
Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

yjghfTHANK EH'YEH FOR THE WORD!


To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous
you are very correct





NOTES:Many of you will ask, why will the church lie to us? The answer is Rome is not your friend wake up! They took counsel together with their bloodline edomites pharasees seeds and killed your messiah.

They killed and destroyed your peoples making them slaves in the four corners of the earth.They gave you their pagan worship centers and false doctrines and you recieve it gladfully and in the mean time rebelling against your creator in your disloyal and adulterated false relationship.


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LET US LOOK AT MOTIVES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS TO INSTITUTE THE SUNDAY WORSHIP.USING THE MESSIAH'S CRUCIFIXION WAS THE IDEAL CATALYST TO WIN THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLEMINDED.

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Origins of Good Friday. Did you ever wonder why Good Friday is recognized as the day Jesus died and Sunday as the day he arose but yet had trouble explaining how he could thus be buried for three days and three nights? (Matthew 12:40; Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31; Mark 9:31; Mark 10:34)

*The answer is simple: He didn't actually die on "Good Friday." The Chaldeans offered cakes to Ishtar on the equivalent of the day we know as Good Friday.*

*And Sun Day Easter is in place to commemorate the resurrection of the sun god Tammuz*
nbvbvc

When the established church wanted to appease the paganistic people in order to "convert" them to Christianity, they moved the dates accordingly. Jesus actually died on the day of Preparation of Passover Week, which that year occurred on Wednesday (John 19:14, 31-42). Thursday was the Sabbath of the Passover. Friday, Christ was still in the tomb. Saturday was the "regular" Sabbath.

Jesus arose just before the Saturday Sabbath was concluded, which was jsut before the first day of the week commenced at sunset. For further clarification of the days concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, see Matthew 27:50-28:7; Mark 15:25-16:6; Luke 23:44-24:8; John 19:14-20:17.

Who celebrates Easter? Pagans, who base their celebrations (including Halloween) on the phases of the moon, celebrate Easter. Christians, however, are clearly forbidden from observing this pagan celebration (Deuteronomy 12:30-31; Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:20-22; Ephesians 5:11).

There is a good reason why the early church never spoke of Easter and why there is absolutely no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament.

(The only exception is a mistranslation in the King James version of Acts 12:4, where it gives the word "Easter" instead of the correction translation "Passover.") It was not an oversight on God's part; Christians simply are not to celebrate Easter, a pagan festival.

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Thank you for your contributing this helps a lot.I appreciate you!
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matt chapter 27

Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. And Ioseph took the body, and wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and put it in his new tomb, which he had hewn out even in the rock, and rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre and departed.

And there was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary sitting over against the sepulchre.

The next day that followeth good friday, the high priests and pharises got themselves to Pilate, and said: Sir, we remember, that this deceiver said while he was yet alive.

NOTES: Here we see on the second day after the crucifixion mary and mary at the sepulchre. This is the day following the passover sabbath which finished at Thursday evening sunset.Friday started from there until sunset which starts the weekly sabbath the 3rd day


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After three days I will arise again, command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest peradventure his disciples come, and steal him away, and say unto the people, he is risen from death: And then the last error shall be worse than the first was. Pilate said unto them:



**IN CONCLUDING AND PROVING THIS MATTER I HEREBY CLOSE THIS CASE BY REPEATING THE FOLLOWING FACTS**

Messiah died on Wednesday afternoon and was entombed before sunset. In Jewish thought, a part of a day was often reckoned as a full day. Messiah was in the grave as follows:

Day 1 - Buried Wednesday afternoon just before sunset
Night 1 - Wednesday night
Day 2 - In the grave Thursday day
Night 2 - In the grave Thursday night
Day 3 - In the grave Friday day
Night 3 - In the grave Friday night

Messiah was raised from the dead shortly before sunrise on the weekly Sabbath (Saturday). The women would not have been forbidden from traveling to the tomb and anointing his body. In fact, Jewish law as recorded in the Mishnah shows that it WAS legal to do this on the Sabbath (Shabbat 23:5).



**I REST MY CASE**

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The Lord died on Wednsday afternoon was buried (the tomb) and contrary to "christian" (easter et al) was in the tomb Weds./Thurs/Friday nights, Thurs./Friday/Sat. day(s). He arose sometime during Sat. eve. This fulfills Job "3 days and 3 nights...." The mainstream belief is false and pure deception.
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The Lord died on Wednsday afternoon was buried (the tomb) and contrary to "christian" (easter et al) was in the tomb Weds./Thurs/Friday nights, Thurs./Friday/Sat. day(s). He arose sometime during Sat. eve. This fulfills Job "3 days and 3 nights...." The mainstream belief is false and pure deception.
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I like the GLP Church.hf
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The Lord died on Wednsday afternoon was buried (the tomb) and contrary to "christian" (easter et al) was in the tomb Weds./Thurs/Friday nights, Thurs./Friday/Sat. day(s). He arose sometime during Sat. eve. This fulfills Job "3 days and 3 nights...." The mainstream belief is false and pure deception.
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Nice info but let us work out the time together.Not saying you are wrong

There are some little details if not brought to light the new young beleivers will have a hard time appreciating this.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The Lord died on Wednsday afternoon was buried (the tomb) and contrary to "christian" (easter et al) was in the tomb Weds./Thurs/Friday nights, Thurs./Friday/Sat. day(s). He arose sometime during Sat. eve. This fulfills Job "3 days and 3 nights...." The mainstream belief is false and pure deception.
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I like the GLP Church.hf
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101 so we study and expose the inconsistencies.You did great yesterday and thank you for upholding the truth

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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The Lord died on Wednsday afternoon was buried (the tomb) and contrary to "christian" (easter et al) was in the tomb Weds./Thurs/Friday nights, Thurs./Friday/Sat. day(s). He arose sometime during Sat. eve. This fulfills Job "3 days and 3 nights...." The mainstream belief is false and pure deception.
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I like the GLP Church.hf
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101 so we study and expose the inconsistencies.You did great yesterday and thank you fro upholding the truth
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The truth is independent from me. I hope a few have understood though.hf
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The Lord died on Wednsday afternoon was buried (the tomb) and contrary to "christian" (easter et al) was in the tomb Weds./Thurs/Friday nights, Thurs./Friday/Sat. day(s). He arose sometime during Sat. eve. This fulfills Job "3 days and 3 nights...." The mainstream belief is false and pure deception.
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I like the GLP Church.hf
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101 so we study and expose the inconsistencies.You did great yesterday and thank you fro upholding the truth
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


The truth is independent from me. I hope a few have understood though.hf
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Seriously I commend you because I know of the blindness that comes with religion when a man is not settled in his heart. There comes a moment when The father inputs the spirit of wisdom in men and women who has a real desire for his word.He looks at the love you give to his created ones and gives us gifts accordingly.
It is more than just the knowledge but he shows you the deceptions of the translators and moves you around the holy oracles to find the other witnesses for confirmation.

You are one of those I see and I thank the father that you are a brother
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I like the GLP Church.hf
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101 so we study and expose the inconsistencies.You did great yesterday and thank you fro upholding the truth
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The truth is independent from me. I hope a few have understood though.hf
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Seriously I commend you because I know of the blindness that comes with religion when a man is not settled in his heart. There comes a moment when The father inputs the spirit of wisdom in men and women who has a real desire for his word.He looks at the love you give to his created ones and gives us gifts accordingly.
It is more than just the knowledge but he shows you the deceptions of the translators and moves you around the holy oracles to find the other witnesses for confirmation.

You are one of those I see and I thank the father that you are a brother
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Yes, and hopefully it holds for eternity. Maranatha.
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Didn't He rise in the afternoon?

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.

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Didn't He rise in the afternoon?

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.
 Quoting: Buddaroll


EXACTLY SO! lOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!


Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

This sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath



Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after but they jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath in chapter 23.

Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous
you are very correct

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Didn't He rise in the afternoon?

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.
 Quoting: Buddaroll


EXACTLY SO! lOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!


Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

This sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath



Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after but they jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath in chapter 23.

Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


This is why I do not understand the Friday crucifiction argument..
It never made sense to me and trust me, I angered many pastors with it since I was 5. LOLOL


If Jesus was crucified on Friday and had to be entombed before sunset Friday..

And the women bought their Herbs on Friday...

Well, really? Do we really think that would have left his side to go buy herbs an oils?

Not only that, but if they had the Herbs on Friday, say they purchased them in the morning, just in case...

Then they would not have needed to take them with them on Sunday because they would have taken care of that when they entombed Him, wouldn't they?

A Friday crucifiction does not make sense no matter how you look at it.

Not only that, but all of the Feasts in the "OT" are set by Date, not Day.

Why would an ever consistent God, change the manner in which Holydays are determined?

Off topic..

Neim, I cannot PM you (I am a cheapo freebie user). I left you a message in the other post. LMK when you register so I can give you access. I have dial up so it would take forever for me to upload for you. This way you can add what you like at your convenience or as you need it.

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Didn't He rise in the afternoon?

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.
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EXACTLY SO! lOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!


Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

This sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath



Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after but they jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath in chapter 23.

Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
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This is why I do not understand the Friday crucifiction argument..
It never made sense to me and trust me, I angered many pastors with it since I was 5. LOLOL


If Jesus was crucified on Friday and had to be entombed before sunset Friday..

And the women bought their Herbs on Friday...

Well, really? Do we really think that would have left his side to go buy herbs an oils?

Not only that, but if they had the Herbs on Friday, say they purchased them in the morning, just in case...

Then they would not have needed to take them with them on Sunday because they would have taken care of that when they entombed Him, wouldn't they?

A Friday crucifiction does not make sense no matter how you look at it.

Not only that, but all of the Feasts in the "OT" are set by Date, not Day.

Why would an ever consistent God, change the manner in which Holydays are determined?

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Neim, I cannot PM you (I am a cheapo freebie user). I left you a message in the other post. LMK when you register so I can give you access. I have dial up so it would take forever for me to upload for you. This way you can add what you like at your convenience or as you need it.
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Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.
When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I will check the info on the other thread and thanks BUDDAROLL

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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hi,did you check out the trumpetcall website i mentioned the other day bro?im sure youl find alot of answers to the questions your heart asks there.also i highly reccomend the complete jewish bible as an excellent translation,its the closest one youl get without all the corruption.must say im loving the informative threads,all this manmade doctrine crap needs exposing.good work bro.
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hi,did you check out the trumpetcall website i mentioned the other day bro?im sure youl find alot of answers to the questions your heart asks there.also i highly reccomend the complete jewish bible as an excellent translation,its the closest one youl get without all the corruption.must say im loving the informative threads,all this manmade doctrine crap needs exposing.good work bro.
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Hey thank you so much.I promised to look at it but did not get a chance.Send the info again for me in this thread and I will jump on it
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Hi can you go deeper into the resurrection day and one question that haunts me. Who were the people resurrected after christ died?
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Hi can you go deeper into the resurrection day and one question that haunts me. Who were the people resurrected after christ died?
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Hi I will be adding to this topic as the night progresses and will touch on this.

The men risen were saints! who are the saints of the most high? the book of psalms chp 50 explains it as those who have made a sarifice unto the Lord,that will be very renowned and holy hebrew men.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Mhm, all right, whatever you say. How many times a year is Jesus born? Fuck.
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Mhm, all right, whatever you say. How many times a year is Jesus born? Fuck.
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And, umm, if Jesus was reincarnated or some shit like that why hasn't our world changed by now? Oooohhh lawdy lawd, let us GLP'ers rejoyce neath the mid-aummer sun and sing odes to Jesus, who was born last Sunday, for the.. uhh, what number was it??
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Mhm, all right, whatever you say. How many times a year is Jesus born? Fuck.
 Quoting: St. Belial


And, umm, if Jesus was reincarnated or some shit like that why hasn't our world changed by now? Oooohhh lawdy lawd, let us GLP'ers rejoyce neath the mid-aummer sun and sing odes to Jesus, who was born last Sunday, for the.. uhh, what number was it??
 Quoting: St. Belial


oneday you will understand
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus is my Hero because... he, ummm, umm, because he prophesied for wild Lions and did all this crazy stuff I can't do. You know how many times the damned Bible has been REWRITTEN? By cynical people! You can't trust a man to translate THE BIBLE, he might get cynical and want to destroy it's true meaning. Whatever that is, right? The Bibleis a mystery so don't go being high shit and claim to even have any of it understood. I'm not a troll.
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Jesus is my Hero because... he, ummm, umm, because he prophesied for wild Lions and did all this crazy stuff I can't do. You know how many times the damned Bible has been REWRITTEN? By cynical people! You can't trust a man to translate THE BIBLE, he might get cynical and want to destroy it's true meaning. Whatever that is, right? The Bibleis a mystery so don't go being high shit and claim to even have any of it understood. I'm not a troll.
 Quoting: St. Belial


One day you will understand.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Mhm, all right, whatever you say. How many times a year is Jesus born? Fuck.
 Quoting: St. Belial


And, umm, if Jesus was reincarnated or some shit like that why hasn't our world changed by now? Oooohhh lawdy lawd, let us GLP'ers rejoyce neath the mid-aummer sun and sing odes to Jesus, who was born last Sunday, for the.. uhh, what number was it??
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oneday you will understand
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


one day is today, I still don't understand why you put faith into a man you don't even know looked like. Jesus has no IDENTITY! I mean, who had the nerve to put a face to JESUS? Jesus coulda been black.
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Jesus is my Hero because... he, ummm, umm, because he prophesied for wild Lions and did all this crazy stuff I can't do. You know how many times the damned Bible has been REWRITTEN? By cynical people! You can't trust a man to translate THE BIBLE, he might get cynical and want to destroy it's true meaning. Whatever that is, right? The Bibleis a mystery so don't go being high shit and claim to even have any of it understood. I'm not a troll.
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One day you will understand.
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WHY HAS THOU MADE A DOGMA EXISTENCE THINE MARK?
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Mhm, all right, whatever you say. How many times a year is Jesus born? Fuck.
 Quoting: St. Belial


And, umm, if Jesus was reincarnated or some shit like that why hasn't our world changed by now? Oooohhh lawdy lawd, let us GLP'ers rejoyce neath the mid-aummer sun and sing odes to Jesus, who was born last Sunday, for the.. uhh, what number was it??
 Quoting: St. Belial


oneday you will understand
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


one day is today, I still don't understand why you put faith into a man you don't even know looked like. Jesus has no IDENTITY! I mean, who had the nerve to put a face to JESUS? Jesus coulda been black.
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You are right I think about that myself when the bible tells us he was very undesrirable to look at.He was not handsome and muscular and all the stuff people imagine

53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus is my Hero because... he, ummm, umm, because he prophesied for wild Lions and did all this crazy stuff I can't do. You know how many times the damned Bible has been REWRITTEN? By cynical people! You can't trust a man to translate THE BIBLE, he might get cynical and want to destroy it's true meaning. Whatever that is, right? The Bibleis a mystery so don't go being high shit and claim to even have any of it understood. I'm not a troll.
 Quoting: St. Belial


One day you will understand.
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Because no matter waht I say to you may never change your mind...you will be persuaded for yourself to chose

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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zzZZzzZZzz...

And if you have an hour


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And, umm, if Jesus was reincarnated or some shit like that why hasn't our world changed by now? Oooohhh lawdy lawd, let us GLP'ers rejoyce neath the mid-aummer sun and sing odes to Jesus, who was born last Sunday, for the.. uhh, what number was it??
 Quoting: St. Belial


oneday you will understand
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


one day is today, I still don't understand why you put faith into a man you don't even know looked like. Jesus has no IDENTITY! I mean, who had the nerve to put a face to JESUS? Jesus coulda been black.
 Quoting: St. Belial


You are right I think about that myself when the bible tells us he was very undesrirable to look at.He was not handsome and muscular and all the stuff people imagine

53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

and there you have it!! out of the mouths of babes.........

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

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THere is a reason we are told such things.......





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