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Anonymous Coward
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11/23/2005 02:08 PM
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The chief burden of the frustrated is the consciousness of a blemished, ineffectual self, and their chief desire is to slough off the unwanted self and begin a new life. They try to realize this desire either by finding a new identity or by blurring and camouflaging their individual distinctness; and both these ends are reached by imitation.
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11/23/2005 02:11 PM
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-Selfish interest rule the world.

Fear based tactic to get us outside of our intent and wonder about our neighbor, remember:

Love thy neighbor as thyself. YOu can only control what occurs in your sphere and by spreading forth only good fruit, it shall return to you ten-fold.

Live in the eternal, the spirit realm is not this world and that is our true home.

-Pull your friends close, your enemies closer.

Fragmentalizing and placing boxes about, it is now that we must see that no enemies exist except the one´s we empower. Freely give, freely recieve. Life´s to short to have enemies, the energetic exchange is the import and those who take enegy must need it so give it.

-You may be deceived if you trust too much,
but you will live in torment unless you trust enough.

Once more, a fear based theology, you need only have the faith in the mustard seed, it is within you to raze mountains if that be thy will.

Breathe freely and be alive.
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11/23/2005 02:19 PM
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Wasenshi

As the Cows are led to the rendering plant...

They are told they are going to a better place.
They are told where they are going, they will see friends.
When they arrive they are full of faith, but still leave as Hamburger.

This is not about FEAR or BLIND FAITH. It is about paying attention to the world that surrounds. Neither crystals, nor orgone grenades or krispi kremes will save you.

Heighten your every cell,
call out for wisdom and protection,
but act to preserve which has purpose and meaning.

Or? Please pass the salt.
Wasenshi

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11/23/2005 02:25 PM
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What saves me is Jesus.

Forgiveness

The Golden Rules

The Infinite Way

A Personal Upwelling

Calling out for wisdom and guidance does not entail surrendering, does not entail fearful cowpaddies, hamburger is processed and recycled like all other matter, as are our vehicles eventually.

From dust to dust.
QuantumHost  (OP)

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11/23/2005 02:27 PM
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And what does Jesus think of Buddha?
Wasenshi

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11/23/2005 02:28 PM
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That is between Jesus and Buddha....
Allen1
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11/23/2005 02:35 PM
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Your message to forum travelers is always transparent, QH. I can sum it up in a word...

sleeeep


Enjoying your insights, Wasenshi. You know what it is to be, rather than merely clinging to illusiory life in the tomb of a haunted graveyard.
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11/23/2005 02:45 PM
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Wasenshi

So your flavor of dogman does not suggest what you should think about Buddha?
Zions Fled

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11/23/2005 02:47 PM
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QH, in a dream I knew I have become unpugged from the tube torus. Do you know what this means? Also that the darkness fears.
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Allen1

"Your message to forum travelers is always transparent, QH"

Deciding for others we see...
Hmmm...

May we ask, what powers your bite?
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11/23/2005 02:51 PM
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ZF

The Flower of Life reference?
Wasenshi

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11/23/2005 02:53 PM
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No, I said it is between Jesus and Buddha what Jesus thinks. I however study much on Siddartha and the message is of import, knowledge is power.

I see much good in the eightfold path, it is right living which raises awareness and brings forth revelation.

I do not however feel that our life here is dhukka, we are here to enjoy, moments of bliss are possible and through right understanding can one live with both desire and happiness.

I also feel strongly that Jesus allows the individual the means to flourish and not surrender there unique self to reach Nirvana.
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Links between Buddha and Jesus examined
By RICHARD N. OSTLING -- The Associated Press

Jesus taught, "As you wish that men would do to you, do so to them." Buddha taught, "Consider others as yourself."

Jesus said, "Whoever lives and believes in me shall never die." Buddha said, "Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond."

The Scriptures record that Jesus´ birth was miraculous and that he left family to devote himself to a spiritual path at about age 30. The same with Buddha.

These and other similarities between the founders of Buddhism and Christianity, long noted by experts, have been explored in writings by Americans´ two favourite Buddhist teachers, the Dalai Lama and Thich Nhat Hanh.

The topic is further examined in the October issue of Bible Review magazine, in an article by Marcus Borg of Oregon State University and author Ray Riegert, who collaborated on the 1997 book Jesus and Buddha: The Parallel Sayings.

One problem: Discussion of Buddha (born Gautama Siddhartha) depends on very late traditions. The first major effort to collect oral traditions occurred two centuries after Buddha died in 480 BC, and the earliest written collection appeared in the first century BC. That version, one of several, fills 32 books.

The Jesus materials are far less complex -- four Gospels -- and were written within decades of his death (although Borg doubts they contain much reliable history).

People in the West thought little about the parallels, or about Buddhism in general, until Europeans colonized Asia in the 19th century. When awareness sunk in, some began concluding the similarities must result from direct influence of Buddhism upon the later Christianity.

An early version of the idea was an 1880 Dutch book speculating that Jews who returned from exile in Babylon carried Buddhist traditions that were preserved by the Essene wilderness sect. But the Essenes apparently wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, rediscovered in 1947, which make no mention of Jesus. A German proponent of similar ideas used impossible evidence: texts written long after Jesus.

An American thinker of this school, Dwight Goddard, a onetime Baptist missionary who became a pioneer non-Asian Buddhist, claimed Jesus followed Buddha´s Four Noble Truths.

There is affinity. The Four Truths teach that life is full of suffering, suffering is caused by desire, suffering can be overcome by extinguishing desire, and this is achieved by ethical living. In his own way, Jesus taught a similar reorientation of one´s life.

A contemporary scholar, Roy Amore of the University of Windsor, Ont., noted that Alexander the Great conquered part of India in ancient times, so there were plausible connections between the Greek-speaking Mediterranean and the Buddhist heartland. Others speculate, totally without foundation, that Jesus travelled to India and received enlightenment during the young adult years not covered by the Gospels.

All the theories about direct contact between Jesus and Indian or Buddhist culture "do not stand up to the rigours of historical scrutiny," Borg and Riegert report. The only probable link with Asian religion concerns Zoroastrianism, the monotheistic faith of Persia, which had some influence on Jews in Babylon and thus on Christianity.

So, how to explain the Jesus-Buddha similarities? Borg cites the commonality in deep spirituality. "Both knew the way from their own experience. Both embarked on intense religious quests; both had experiences of the sacred."

The Borg-Riegert article notes there were differences, too. Buddha was born to a noble family while Jesus was raised among peasants and had more edge as a social prophet.

But they do not examine the most obvious differences. Buddha taught that each soul is reincarnated in a succession of lives, human and animal; Jesus did not. And Buddha never affirmed the one God, personal and supernatural, who in Christian belief was at the heart of Jesus´ teachings and of his very being.
Ethereal / Mam
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11/25/2005 03:50 AM
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QH,

Jesus is the One who God resurrected from the dead....after offering himself up as sacrifice to put our sin/karma to death, through the power of forgiveness ...(if one agrees to accept His offering...)


Which is what is the defining factor between Jesus and Buddha. Does that nullify Buddha´s teachings? Not at all....he was influenced by the divine....but he was not the ´Divine One, son of God´....that in and of itself sets Him apart.

Buddha accessed the divine realms...receiving knowledge of spiritual matters....akin to Einstein´s capability to access knowledge in the intellectual mathematical realm.

(you certainly are aware of this ´accessing´ the 5th and 6th dimensional information highway´....no?)


Jesus is the only ONE in recorded history who volunteered to be the sacrificial lamb for our sins.
Anonymous Coward
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11/25/2005 04:29 AM
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The future is... well... simply put... fucking pointless.
ETHEREAL
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11/25/2005 04:47 PM
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Allen1
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Pulling does not serve friendship. Attachment IS the enemy.


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Oh man, that is so true!! Have never heard anyone say it like that....

Attachment to anyone and anything other than through God ......is indeed the enemy to the balance and growth of our souls....hence, ´the enemy´.

Finally figured that out within the past few months.

good lesson....thanks for the reminder.


flower
QuantumHost  (OP)

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12/07/2005 08:18 AM
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There are many ways to go forward.

Step.
Trip.
Drift.

What is your mode?
Ethereal
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12/07/2005 12:17 PM
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Was that a group question QH?


Was thinking yesterday when a person reaches the conclusion that they might know too much ´universal knowledge´ is this.....

after years of research, learning, growth, relational trials and tests,... and mind/heart/soul expansion....

One finally realizes they might actually know too much when the general ´masses´ don´t understand what the hell one is trying to say.


lol


hugs


QH..... Buddha didn´t allow his own body to be sacrificed as Jesus did.

Perhaps God spoke through Buddha, but Buddha was not God.
Ajax Jones

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12/07/2005 12:35 PM
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QH...
Your initial message sure is quite bleak.
My ideal future is a past that is understood, healed and let go of. Walking into each day with a clean slate. Gets mighty confused and cluttered when you worry about the rest of the world. But so much easier to handle the rest of the world & their problems with a true sense of clarity.
But you still rock!
Cheers
AJ
thank you
Ajax Jones

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12/07/2005 12:40 PM
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Ethereal

That is why I never come to a conclusion!
rolleyes
lmao
thank you
Anonymous Coward
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12/07/2005 12:50 PM
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What the freaky lookin´ big-eyed alien guy said...
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12/07/2005 01:11 PM
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Ethereal

All questions are group questions.
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12/07/2005 01:13 PM
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k....
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Ajax

"QH...
Your initial message sure is quite bleak."

-You see bleak, we see opportunity at every corner.

-We honor your choice of perspectives.

-All perspectives are relevant.
Ajax Jones

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12/07/2005 01:32 PM
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Right-O!
:-)
thank you
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12/07/2005 06:00 PM
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Brains or balls? Hmmmm....

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Omphaloskepsis Posted: Dec 7 2005, 04:55 PM


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Tough call.

Bats' Evolution Choice

Updated: 13:13, Wednesday December 07, 2005

It's official, males with big testicles have smaller brains - at least in the case of bats.

Bats cannot be well-endowed in both areas, according to a discovery by scientists at Syracuse University in New York.

Their study shows a biological trade-off between brains and sperm, with the creatures 'opting' for one or the other.

It seems females are to blame for the evolution of the male species.

They are unusually promiscuous, so natural selection pressure has led to males evolving enormous testicles to tempt a mate.

The male bat is unable to sustain a large brain and high fertility levels.

Experts at the university say the genitals of some bats make up a whopping 8.5% of their body mass. That compares to a maximum of just 0.75% for most apes.

Researchers found the link between testicle and brain size after looking at 334 different bat species.

[link to www.sky.com]
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AC

"Brains or balls?"

We are sorry we do not understand the relevance of this article to the thread.

Might you assist?





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