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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1423408 ![]() 04/27/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A gun is fine if you are trained on the workings and how to use it. Quoting: Cypress The best defense for intruders is pepper spray. Not the pen type that so many think of. Buy bear spray that is intended for knocking a bear down so you can run. Once you knock your intruder down then run for the gun and call 911. Depending on where you live, you can actually get arrested for this. If you stop the intruder with the pepper spray then get your gun, your in a mess of legal troubles. |
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DILKe User ID: 2053427 ![]() 04/27/2012 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont ask here, join a gun forum. There's too many jokers here to get good advice. My advice, go to a gun range where you can rent various pistols and revolvers to see what you like and what you can shoot well. Good luck and have fun! Last Edited by FBHO on 04/27/2012 01:55 PM Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
SPUD 04/27/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are not a gun nut then a revolver might be best for you.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1404507 A S+W snub nose .38 5 shot...conceal, or for around the house. She's not ready for a semi auto you guys! here's what the old lady has in her purse [link to t0.gstatic.com] One more: if you buy a revolver, get a double-action. Don't get one with an exposed hammer. Quoting: Jane2 a 642 weighs more, plus some of us have a hammer fetish Last Edited by SPUD on 04/27/2012 02:00 PM "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most" ___________ "May your chains rest lightly upon you..." |
Xerces User ID: 1790437 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | research into the Bersa .380. It's small, light and compact. It is such a "safe" pistol, that you can't fire it unless the magazine is inserted into the pistol... Quoting: Xerces Please stay away from a .380 for personal protection. These things are called "back up guns" for a reason. Yes, they are small, however with this size comes a major disadvantage. 1) The small frame makes them harder to control when they fire. A larger and heavier handgun will be MUCH EASIER to control. Trust me. My wife bought a Taurus TCP .380 for her first firearm. She hates it. It's very hard to control and will hurt your hand after firing a few rounds. Some of the heavier revolvers would be MUCH easier to shoot. 2) A .380 round will not have as much stopping power as a .40 or .45 Don't think that just be cause of the size that they will be harder to fire. Again, it comes down to the type of pistol you are using. That's what hollow points are for :) Yes, they kick harder then the average larger pistols due to their small size. You shouldn't have to shoot more then twice in close quarters though and having a smaller pistol is a greater tactical advantage for hallway sweeping. If I had my pick for a pistol it would be the Mateba Model 6 Unica. [link to cyberpunk.net.pl] "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1010412 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's some info on 'passive' safety: Glock pistols are designed with three independent safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharge. The system, designated "Safe Action" by Glock, consists of an external integrated trigger safety[39] and two automatic internal safeties: a firing pin safety[40] and a drop safety.[41] The external safety is a small inner lever contained in the trigger. Pressing the lever activates the trigger bar and sheet metal connector. The firing pin safety is a solid hardened steel pin that, in the secured state, blocks the firing pin channel (disabling the firing pin in its longitudinal axis). It is pushed upward to release the firing pin for firing only when the trigger is actuated and the safety is pushed up through the backward movement of the trigger bar. The drop safety guides the trigger bar in a ramp that is released only when direct rearward pressure is applied to the trigger. The three safety mechanisms are automatically disengaged one after the other when the trigger is squeezed, and are automatically reactivated when the trigger is released.[12][42] This passive safety system omits the manipulation of traditional on-off levers, hammers or other external safeties as found in many other handgun designs. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Don't listen to the revolver fanatics...while ok, if you have to shoot more than 5 or 6 times, you've just screwed the pooch. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1423408 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | research into the Bersa .380. It's small, light and compact. It is such a "safe" pistol, that you can't fire it unless the magazine is inserted into the pistol... Quoting: Xerces Please stay away from a .380 for personal protection. These things are called "back up guns" for a reason. Yes, they are small, however with this size comes a major disadvantage. 1) The small frame makes them harder to control when they fire. A larger and heavier handgun will be MUCH EASIER to control. Trust me. My wife bought a Taurus TCP .380 for her first firearm. She hates it. It's very hard to control and will hurt your hand after firing a few rounds. Some of the heavier revolvers would be MUCH easier to shoot. 2) A .380 round will not have as much stopping power as a .40 or .45 Don't think that just be cause of the size that they will be harder to fire. Again, it comes down to the type of pistol you are using. That's what hollow points are for :) Yes, they kick harder then the average larger pistols due to their small size. You shouldn't have to shoot more then twice in close quarters though and having a smaller pistol is a greater tactical advantage for hallway sweeping. If I had my pick for a pistol it would be the Mateba Model 6 Unica. [link to cyberpunk.net.pl] I'm sorry sir but using hollow points and being able to clear a room easier really doesn't justify your point. The difference in size from a .380 and a full size hand gun is a couple inches and some weight. Not really going to make any difference in clearing a room. As for hollow points? All thats going to do is keep the bullet from penetrating through the intruder. Stopping power is not measure by the type of round. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15089596 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading this thread, I'm going to go off the topic of guns. Consider going to REI (or similar store) and purchasing a canister of Grizzly repellent. Accessorize with a holster. This will stop any intruder at 10+ yards. The canister (similar to a small fire extinguisher) has a thumb safety to prevent accidental discharge. |
SPUD 04/27/2012 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading this thread, I'm going to go off the topic of guns. Consider going to REI (or similar store) and purchasing a canister of Grizzly repellent. Accessorize with a holster. This will stop any intruder at 10+ yards. The canister (similar to a small fire extinguisher) has a thumb safety to prevent accidental discharge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15089596 Get a BIG can in case you need to club them also. "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most" ___________ "May your chains rest lightly upon you..." |
Skyking210 User ID: 15094891 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant sign in for some reason....O well...I cant believe that this post turns into shit talk! Poor girl just wants to protect her family from the crazies. Brief...alot of things i dont see eye to eye with you but you hit this one right on the head. Im 27 have had a Ruger SR9c for 2 years now and have never "HID" them in anyway. There are safe ways to lock a gun BUT still arm up quickly. Double Action guns all have hammers (I believe). I recommend a Double action like Jericho 941...Its asem-auto, double action. Can order in polymer or steel. up to 3 diff cals. 9mm, 40 and 45. And has a compact model. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8832538 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep the gun disassembled, like having the barrel removed and hidden somewhere close but not obvious, that way you can have the ammo in the gun and all you need is to find the barrel hidden somewhere and quickly assemble it, this way no one can bring their own mag and shoot with your gun either |
Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep the gun disassembled, like having the barrel removed and hidden somewhere close but not obvious, that way you can have the ammo in the gun and all you need is to find the barrel hidden somewhere and quickly assemble it, this way no one can bring their own mag and shoot with your gun either Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8832538 Would that be quicker than loading it? How about any obvious dangers that I am not aware of. Ie; something you may all have learned the hard way? I am SO appreciative and I just knew there were a bunch of smart cookies on this site! ((((hugs)))) |
AAONMS User ID: 1282493 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glock 26 is very good. Its a compact 9mm. Very Reliable and easy to maintain. However. I would look at the Beretta Nano. Has all the great attributes of the Glock 26. Its basically the glock 26 but smaller. Its considered a micro compact pistol. Its small enough to conceal in your pocket and will fit better in your hand as you are a female. The Beretta Nano just came out last October and IMHO its the best concealable on the market. |
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Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah? Well where would you advise keeping a loaded gun with children in the house? All I need is 20 seconds to jump into my closet and load it. It will be locked up no doubt. Chances of my kids getting hurt far outweigh the odds of another break in.. First off, alot can happen in twenty seconds. Done believe me? Go outside your house and lock you door. Now start a timer, unlock you door, walk in your house and go to your bed room. I guarantee you will still have plenty of time left by the time you get there. Now, intruder is entering your home from your room, how much time do you have now? Now, lets think real scenario. You think you can get to your safe, get your firearm and load it fairly quickly right? Well, there is something that kicks in when you are put in a situation like this called fear and adrenaline. Both with reduce your response time by a significant amount. Your 20 seconds will take longer than 20 seconds. Here's my advice. Before purchasing a hand gun, go take the class for a concealed handgun permit. You will have time in the class to learn about firearms and have the opportunity to fire one. You can make your decision on which pistol you would like after you have finished the class. As for where to keep the firearm, there are many companies out there that make custom hideaway boxes that you can mount on your bed for easy retrieval in the middle of the night. Only keep the firearm in here when you are sleeping. During the day, carry the firearm concealed. Being a gun owner is a big responsibility and should not be taken lightly. You can't just "choose" when to carry since you will never know when you will be a victim. The biggest thing to also remember is YOU MUST go to the range on a regular basis to use your firearm. I suggest once every three to four weeks. You don't buy a golf club and expect to be able to use it if you ever decide to go play golf. Same thing with a firearm. You need practice. If you are one of the firearm owners that purchase one and hide it away until you need it, I guarantee the odds will not be in your favor. I recently saw a video on YouTube where a gentlemen in a Jewelry Store was being robbed. The owner happen to have a pistol right under the counter with a loaded magazine however, he did not have a round loaded in the chamber. For a semi automatic weapon, you have to pull the slide on the top of the pistol back and let it go to load the first round. The whole process takes about half a second. Well, the owner pulled the pistol out, being nervous he was unable to grab the slide and was having trouble pulling the slide back. The robbers unloaded and entire magazine in the owner before he even had a chance to shoot. If your going to have a firearm, spend time learning, researching, practicing and keep your firearm loaded and ready to fire. The most you should have to do is flip a safety if the gun you purchase has one. I personally do not like an active safety as you need to practice even more to condition yourself to muscle memory to flip the switch before you fire. Something like a revolver or a Glock are great as they include internal safeties to reduce the amount of steps to fire. Having a loaded firearm around children is not an issue if you practice being a safe firearms owner. The children that shoot themselves are the ones that have negligent firearm owners. Though this post made me nervous, it made me realize the more I use the gun practicing the more it will become second nature so my adrenaline and fear won't throw me off as bad. I sure do appreciate the time you took to tell me all of this! You guys seriously are awesome!! I am going to search for any local classes in my area right now before I consider the type of gun. I have to say, I am a bit excited <<weird word to use but I think I am excited that I am taking back a little control and have a chance at least to defend my family instead of just the knives I keep close by... Thank you!!!! ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11519284 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do NOT get a glock >>>glocks are for stupid people<<< (who know nothing about guns or for impressionable youtube morons) especially if this is your first gun you also should NOT buy 'something small' as it might actually be more difficult and painful to shoot until you are well trained go to a store and feel different guns in your hand 9mm is probably your best bet for start at the end of the day cz-75 is still the best value |
Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | research into the Bersa .380. It's small, light and compact. It is such a "safe" pistol, that you can't fire it unless the magazine is inserted into the pistol... Quoting: Xerces Please stay away from a .380 for personal protection. These things are called "back up guns" for a reason. Yes, they are small, however with this size comes a major disadvantage. 1) The small frame makes them harder to control when they fire. A larger and heavier handgun will be MUCH EASIER to control. Trust me. My wife bought a Taurus TCP .380 for her first firearm. She hates it. It's very hard to control and will hurt your hand after firing a few rounds. Some of the heavier revolvers would be MUCH easier to shoot. 2) A .380 round will not have as much stopping power as a .40 or .45 Don't think that just be cause of the size that they will be harder to fire. Again, it comes down to the type of pistol you are using. Is this because of recoil? I really want to be comfortable and feel in control of the gun instead of the other way around... As I said, I have small hands, but I am definitely not a wimpy girl. I will check into the Bersa .380 also!! Thanks!! |
AAONMS User ID: 1282493 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep the gun disassembled, like having the barrel removed and hidden somewhere close but not obvious, that way you can have the ammo in the gun and all you need is to find the barrel hidden somewhere and quickly assemble it, this way no one can bring their own mag and shoot with your gun either Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8832538 Would that be quicker than loading it? How about any obvious dangers that I am not aware of. Ie; something you may all have learned the hard way? I am SO appreciative and I just knew there were a bunch of smart cookies on this site! ((((hugs)))) I would not dissemble the gun if you bought a Glock 26 or Beretta Nano. They use clips which I would keep loaded but away from the gun that you can grab in a hurry and then loading takes 1 second to insert clip. Leave the gun assembled just keep bullets in the clips away from gun. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14510164 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For a gun, a .38 revolver is likely best for someone with little experience. I prefer semi-autos, , but any gun is better than none. |
Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no better weapon for home defence then a shotgun with buckshot ( .32", 9 pellets). But judging buy your answers you won't have the courage to use a firearm against an intruder and if you do, you won't be able to shoot accurate enough with a handgun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15164191 I hope that if push comes to shove, you are wrong. AS far as accuracy, I am a pretty darn good shot, have a great eye. But shooting a person, never have hope to never have to. I think I may stall and that may be the mistake. I am too much the type to "Give everyone the benefit of the doubt." but dude is in my house uninvited, benefit of doubt goes out window right? Problem is, is it only self-defense if they actually come at you? Is just breaking into your home self-defense enough to shoot? I am NOT going to jail for some scumbag who breaks into my home and a judge says "He had no priors of violence, he only wanted to take some food, so you go to jail for shooting him lady!" crazy justice system... |
Skyking264 User ID: 15094891 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New profile..Anyways...IMO guns in general were meant to be loaded at all times...hence the Double Action...so 1 could draw.....squeeze and done. The Ruger SR9c is a semi-auto just like a glock. One thing it DOESNT have is a drop release. I didnt like that...besides the light weight of the gun made the recoil absurd. Get a mini gun vault that you can open up in the dark...with a double action. Keep loaded so when you REALLY REALLY need to you can just open point and shoot. Besides NOBODY should have access to YOUR gun! Hope this helps |
Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A gun is fine if you are trained on the workings and how to use it. Quoting: Cypress The best defense for intruders is pepper spray. Not the pen type that so many think of. Buy bear spray that is intended for knocking a bear down so you can run. Once you knock your intruder down then run for the gun and call 911. Depending on where you live, you can actually get arrested for this. If you stop the intruder with the pepper spray then get your gun, your in a mess of legal troubles. I figured as much.. You know, I won't have time to think of what's legal or not when/if I have to defend my family.. |
AAONMS User ID: 1282493 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do NOT get a glock Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284 >>>glocks are for stupid people<<< (who know nothing about guns or for impressionable youtube morons) especially if this is your first gun you also should NOT buy 'something small' as it might actually be more difficult and painful to shoot until you are well trained go to a store and feel different guns in your hand 9mm is probably your best bet for start at the end of the day cz-75 is still the best value You obviously dont know much about Glocks. They are one of the most accuratge reliable(never jam) easy to maintain guns on the market. They also have a wide range of grip mods which will improve your hold of the gun and accuracy. 70% of all police in the U.S.A now carry them. Apparently the majority of the police force in the U.S.A are stupid people. LOL |
Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New profile..Anyways...IMO guns in general were meant to be loaded at all times...hence the Double Action...so 1 could draw.....squeeze and done. The Ruger SR9c is a semi-auto just like a glock. One thing it DOESNT have is a drop release. I didnt like that...besides the light weight of the gun made the recoil absurd. Get a mini gun vault that you can open up in the dark...with a double action. Keep loaded so when you REALLY REALLY need to you can just open point and shoot. Besides NOBODY should have access to YOUR gun! Hope this helps Quoting: Skyking264 Not familiar with double-action, will google it. Also, What do you mean Drop release? It really scares me a lot about the loaded gun but if I had it in a safe that only I have the combo to, I would be ok. |
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Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do NOT get a glock Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11519284 >>>glocks are for stupid people<<< (who know nothing about guns or for impressionable youtube morons) especially if this is your first gun you also should NOT buy 'something small' as it might actually be more difficult and painful to shoot until you are well trained go to a store and feel different guns in your hand 9mm is probably your best bet for start at the end of the day cz-75 is still the best value You obviously dont know much about Glocks. They are one of the most accuratge reliable(never jam) easy to maintain guns on the market. They also have a wide range of grip mods which will improve your hold of the gun and accuracy. 70% of all police in the U.S.A now carry them. Apparently the majority of the police force in the U.S.A are stupid people. LOL So what I am gathering is the lighter the gun, the more recoil? I want that gun to stay aimed at the target even after I shoot. If I miss first the shot, what's the point in the next one going over the head or into the ceiling.. I can handle a little recoil but I have seen people shoot and their arms recoil way back. That's not good enough control for me! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1580794 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a Ruger LCR - Lightweight Compact Revolver. Quoting: <<FOCUS HARDER>> Picture here - [link to www.tuckergunleatherblog.com] It's perfect for a novice because its just point and shoot. You don't have to worry about it jamming because it's a revolver. It comes in 357, which can shoot 357 mags and .38 special, and .38, which just shoots .38. Most handgun encounters happen between 3-10 feet so as long as you can point and pull the trigger, you will probably hit your target in the range. Good luck Good choice, but the Smith&Wesson Bodyguard 38 may be better. Integrated laser. [link to www.smith-wesson.com] |
Teensi2 (OP) User ID: 8437259 ![]() 04/27/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glock 26 is very good. Its a compact 9mm. Very Reliable and easy to maintain. However. I would look at the Beretta Nano. Has all the great attributes of the Glock 26. Its basically the glock 26 but smaller. Its considered a micro compact pistol. Its small enough to conceal in your pocket and will fit better in your hand as you are a female. The Beretta Nano just came out last October and IMHO its the best concealable on the market. Okay, but does it recoil a lot due to light weight? I do have small hands so I may just get a list of the recommended ones and shoot at the range with all of them. It will probably take me a while to get educated about which gun and get the permits/classes. I would like to have it by summer though if that's possible. You all mention the Glock a lot overall, so I will be trying it, not saying it will be the one though. |