Want to buy a gun/advice needed

Do NOT get this gun. I used to own one and it was fucking aweful. It won't fire if you drop it and it won't fire if you pull the trigger. It literally jammed up every other shot. There's a reason it's so cheap. You get what you pay for.

9mm, Taurus Pro Millennium....affordable, reliable, and compact. Everyone says that a compact is not good because you lose barrel length, therefore lose accuracy. I think thats bullshit though. Do you honestly think you are going to be shooting long range in or around your house? If the time arises when you do need to fire your gun(hopefully not)the intruder, burglar,or whomever will be more than likely close. I found that the 9mm compacts are a little more affordable than the regular 9mms. Hope this helps and good luck.

OP, don't listen to the wanna-be 'gun experts' saying don't buy a Glock.

Glock is the #1 (in units sold) police, military, and law enforcement weapon sold in the WORLD. PERIOD.

Glock's also CAN NOT fire when dropped due to the passive safeties.

Springfield and CZ also make nice weapons, but for ease of use, reliability, accuracy, and price, it's hard to beat a Glock.

9mm using defense rounds (Hornady XTP or Speer Gold-Dot in 147gr) will provide plenty of 'punch' without providing plenty of recoil.

Go to a local gun range and rent some different types of guns. Ultimately, you have to like how it shoots and 'feels'.

Also, just about any gun can be outfitted with a laser. Most modern semi-autos (like the Glock) have a small accessory rail under the barrel to attach such things.

When buying consider: Reliability, reputation, recoil, safety record, price, and shooting 'comfort'.

Ignore idiots who say things like "Glocks r 4 noobs'.

I am surprisingly pleased at what I have learned today from all combined posts and appreciate them all. Because of the "majority" reports on Glocks, it will be on of the ones I consider. Thanks so much for that input!!

I am thinking between $200-$500 can get me an acceptable weapon yes?

You sure it wasn't the wally-world reloads your were shooting or you limp-wristing the shots?

I have 2 weapons (1 pistol in .40 and 1 carbine in 9mm) from HiPoint and they're both great (especially for the price).

If you had a HiPoint that jammed every other round, a quick return to the factory would of had a completely corrected weapon back to you in less than a week.

The HiPoints are on the heavy side, and they sure aren't pretty, but if you're on a tight budget, they're decent weapons. Neither of mine have ever experienced any FTF or FTE.

Thank you! This will not be a gun for target practice, so you are right, distance probably won't be a factor..

Well you brought up another question for me.. Do you all have to "maintenance" your weapons often? Oil, cleaning...? I do not plan on having it out much other than at the range practicing maybe a couple times per month. Never considered if some weapons are more "upkeep" than others.

Yes.

Glock 19 or 26 (compact & subcompact, respectively) will run you about $475 - $550 depending on some minor options (like night sights).

Here's an example:

[link to www.gunsamerica.com]

Springfield XD XDM (in 9mm) will run about $575 - $675

Here's an example:

[link to www.gunsamerica.com]

A nice CZ 75 or SP-01 Phantom will run you about $450-$500

Here's an example:

[link to www.gunsamerica.com]


It varies some state-to-state.

The HiPoint 9mm is very inexpensive (about $175 last I looked) and like I mentioned, is an overall good gun (just heavy and ugly). HiPoint does have a lifetime, no haggle warranty (they even fixed something I broke due to a fault of mine).

Irregardless, trying out as many as you can at the local range will give you the best feel for what you want.

Good luck and stay safe!

Why do people ask about guns on a non gun forum ?

Op,take a few classes first.They will let and direct you to the gun you shoot and feels right in your hands.

If you are in a condo or dense neighborhood, it is practically a requirement that you use frangible self-defense ammo.

Good Advice... Most people don't think about this.

Yes, you should clean it after every range outing.

Deep cleaning every 500-1000 rounds.

Look for something easy to dis-assemble (Glock field strips down in under 3 seconds) and maintain (Glock metal parts are coated with Tenifer technology and are hard enough to sharpen knives on - plus immune to rust).

Here's a google search: watch some of the videos

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

Good Luck!

How much are you willing to spend?

Because I have heard so many here speak of their weapons, AND I know from being on here that the majority of the posters are intelligent, logical people who know a thing or two about a thing or two. I have learned a LOT today, but I apologize if this post has bothered you.

Thanks for the advice, I am waiting on a call back from a local training facility. I know how to shoot, just want to be VERY secure in my choice of weapon and issues that are learned only from experience.

I am thinking between $200-$500 would be adequate, yes?

Well you brought up another question for me.. Do you all have to "maintenance" your weapons often? Oil, cleaning...? I do not plan on having it out much other than at the range practicing maybe a couple times per month. Never considered if some weapons are more "upkeep" than others.


Yes, you should clean it after every range outing.

Deep cleaning every 500-1000 rounds.

Look for something easy to dis-assemble (Glock field strips down in under 3 seconds) and maintain (Glock metal parts are coated with Tenifer technology and are hard enough to sharpen knives on - plus immune to rust).

Here's a google search: watch some of the videos

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

Good Luck!


Thanks so much!!!

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If you are in a condo or dense neighborhood, it is practically a requirement that you use frangible self-defense ammo.

Good Advice... Most people don't think about this.



Awesome advice! I am in a house,with near an acre, but big neighborhood. Thanks for taking the time to share that!

Yea there is a pistol that shoots a shell like a shotgun. it can shoot slugs and pellets. I believe its called "The Judge" that thing is a beast. its small,all metal, not bad recoil. only 5 shots though..its a revolver. If weights not an issue id go with baretta 9mm w/hollow (hollow flattens out on impact to stop in the person/object)so good with not shooting through walls. Like i said i LOVE my all steel 40. Jericho 941.

Forgot get semi compact if not carrying.No baby guns here!

Yes, you should clean it after every range outing.

Deep cleaning every 500-1000 rounds.

Look for something easy to dis-assemble (Glock field strips down in under 3 seconds) and maintain (Glock metal parts are coated with Tenifer technology and are hard enough to sharpen knives on - plus immune to rust).

Here's a google search: watch some of the videos

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

Good Luck!


Thanks so much!!!


Lol Great advice! I clean after about 500-1000 as well! Another reason for pistols with no hammer action is there is less moving parts which make the Glock n Ruger great to field strip and clean...less jamming probs as well! By the way most semi autos are centerfire...No dryfiring w/ Rrimshot pistols....as its bad for the gun.

Last Edited by Skyking264 on 04/27/2012 04:42 PM

Spoken like a true Tennessean
How goes it Resister?

Actually the Beretta Nano and the Glock 26 have minimal recoil. They are both heavy built guns. Probably over built but thats why they are very high quality. The nano was actually built to be .40 caliber but they made it 9mm so its very solid.

The Ruger LC9, Glock 26 and Beretta Nano are all similar. Differences being the Ruger and Nano are smaller in size. The Nano and Glock are heavier and more solidly built and the Glock 26 and Nano have less recoil than the Ruger and the Glock and Nano are very reliable never jam pistols from much testing done.

When you add it up. The nano seems the best for you for size, recoil, accuracy, and reliability. But you need to test several guns out to see if you like the feel of one more than another, becaue that matters too.

Awesome advice! I am in a house,with near an acre, but big neighborhood. Thanks for taking the time to share that!


For Less Lethal and also apartments: I recommend rubber 9mm bullets that contain a pepper shot within. These will take someone down without killing them and not go through walls.

A locked up gun is likely to be of limited use for home defense. Revolver or shotgun 1st choice. The guy bad mouthing Hi-point must of been shooting bad ammo. My kids will go thru 500 rds of 9mm out of the hi-point carbine at a visit to the range, never seen it misfire.

oh boy
another internet expert glocktard

glocks are for stupid people

they will always be for stupid people

and the fact that most police departments buy them simply confirms this truth

search for statistics on how many 'highly trained' police officers shoot themselves in the foot with their glocks

the grip angle of a glock is ridiculous

the safeties the glocktards keep mentioning are multi million dollar marketing campaign myth that all the sheeple have grown to embrace without ever having used one in their life

GLOCKS ARE FOR STUPID PEOPLE

it doesn't matter who has them or how many are sold

look at who voted for obama, millions of stupid people
must the the same crowd

A locked up gun is likely to be of limited use for home defense. Revolver or shotgun 1st choice. The guy bad mouthing Hi-point must of been shooting bad ammo. My kids will go thru 500 rds of 9mm out of the hi-point carbine at a visit to the range, never seen it misfire.


I guess I have been hearing this a lot but I really felt that if it was in a safe next to my bed that I would be able to get to it quickly if I needed it. My concern for the children (which are old enough to NOT touch it) is immense.. I still have a 6 year old who may test the rules..

First of all, I am sorry that you are living in the Gulag that is Illinois, not Tennessee. Illinois firearm laws are so draconian and Feudalistic that my friends and I gave up deer hunting there. The people in Southern Illinois were terrific though and I miss them.

Listed below are four recommendations, in no particular order, for self defense handguns for beginners or old pro's. Take your pick, there is no wrong choice here. All are common calibers that are easy to shoot and maintain. Oh, and keep about two hundred rounds of ammo in reserve at all times.

Keep in mind the old adage "practice makes perfect" is more true in firearms handling than anything else. And don't worry, women with their excellent fine motor skills can shoot as good as men, be confident.

Also, for safety around the kiddies keep your chosen handgun loaded-round chambered-ready to fire in this installed safe.

[link to glockstore.com]


1.
Charter Arms
73540 Target Mag Pug

[link to www.charterfirearms.com]


2.
Glock 26
9mm Fixed Sights

[link to www.budsgunshop.com]



3.
Charter Arms
6 Round 22 Magnum Target Revolver w/4" Barrel &

[link to www.budsgunshop.com]


4.
Charter Arms
6 Round 38 Special Revolver w/2.2" Barrel/Stain

[link to www.budsgunshop.com]


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Asking that question on this forum is about as smart as asking someone what their favorite color is at a Gay Pride Parade.....~yeesh~

For home protection, pump action shotgun. For a female, I would suggest a 20 gauge unless you feel comfortable with the recoil of a 12.

If a handgun, a good 9mm/40 is a good choice if you want semi auto. If you do not like the feel of those, then maybe a .380, but nothing smaller. I would definately suggest a revolver. Someone suggested a 4" 357 and would agree. This way you can practice with or hotload the .38's, and gradually move into the magnums.

The best thing to do, go to a range, rent a few different types, put a few clips through each and get a feel for what is good for you. Pick one from there, and practice, practice, practice. A well placed small caliber shot is better than missing with a .45

Good luck.

Ignore people like that....


Questions...

- What is your budget? That will limit the recommendations that others can make.

-Are left-handed or right-handed? Which hand would you be utilizing to pull the trigger with? Some manufacturers do not make models for lefties. So that is somethhing to consider. Some manufacturers make right & left handed models of a particular gun, and some manufacturers designed guns with ambidextrous features (slide release, magazine release, etc)

-Is the expense of ammo a concern for you? How frequently do you plan on going to the range to practice?

Good idea about the safe. I live alone with a dog but always utilize my safe. One thing you may want to consider is a biometric safe that could only be opened with your finger print. That would allow you quicker access in the event of an emergency, rather than fumbling around in the dark trying to get into your safe.

FYI concerning the Glock 26 recommendations. Just note that this 'Baby Glock' is a subcompact. It's got a very small grip. I have small hands for a guy and I had to install a pinky grip to get it to fit more comfortably in my hands. Shoots 9mm, which isn't expected to have a lot of stopping power. Not my only piece though. If you are only planning on making one purchase, and want something a little bit beefier (both in size and stopping power), consider other options. Glock 26 run you about $450-550 depending on where you live. I think there are some other good options in that price range. Don't get me wrong though, nothing bad about that model. A lot of people prefer it for purposes of concealed carry, but that won't be your concern.

Well alrighty than! lol Thank you for being a straight shooter!

I live in Chicago: "49 states have passed laws allowing citizens to carry certain concealed firearms in public, either without a permit or after obtaining a permit from local government and/or law enforcement.[1] Illinois is the only state without such a provision."

I need a FOID registration to transport it and own it, but cannot carry it in this state.