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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15462194 United States 05/03/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ARE YOU PEOPLE BRAIN DEAD??????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9524164 DO YOU HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS THAT CAUSES YOU TO FORGET YESTERDAYS NEWS???? COME ON WTF RUSSIAN AND US TROOPS ARE DOING MILITARY EXERCISES ON US SOIL. THEN YOU MORONS GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS...LIKE THEY ARE REALLY ENEMIES STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not sure which side your on?, as you contradict yourself eitherway by the way you wrote the above? I will just say that we've ALWAYS had really High tensions with Russia and it is just plain-stupid to let them or ANY FOREIGN TROOPS on American SOIL! If our Forefathers were could comeback from the grave to learn what we're doing with this "Drill" I think that Washington,JEfferson and other would kill our present leaders instantly today as traitors and enemies of the Republic! We are essentially letting the wolves onto the sheep-ranch. Extremely STUPID! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15462194 United States 05/03/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya think so? I can see that you obviously are ignorant of the facts and this presidents' actions as well. I hate to say it but the more you post on here the more I've realised that you're a brain-dead sheep...ripe for the killing as they say. You need to wake-up and quit listening to your Commie neighbors there pal...ofcourse they will want you to turnbagainbs your won country...makes it easier for THEM to take-over, or should I say their PLANS to attempt it. YOu're gonna be caught in crossfire Dude. Pull your head out of your ass! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15462194 United States 05/03/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just curious?, but from a Russian perspective? Can you tell us if you your country has ever allowed the USA to do war manuevers on your soil? If not do you think your countires leaders would ever be careless enough to allow such a thing to happen? Thanks in advance :) |
Osmosys (OP) User ID: 7118492 Belgium 05/03/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just curious?, but from a Russian perspective? Can you tell us if you your country has ever allowed the USA to do war manuevers on your soil? If not do you think your countires leaders would ever be careless enough to allow such a thing to happen? Thanks in advance :) Good point |
ragin1 User ID: 1323409 United States 05/03/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Pull your head out of your ass!" I think you've had your head in your ass since the early 60's. Your hating ilk is almost done. Too bad it took 40 yrs of socialist indoctrination on our youth, and the destruction of our once great nation, to get rid of you fascists. Now it will take another 40 to get rid of the leeches. Well fiscally speaking, it may be a lot quicker than that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15411618 United States 05/03/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just curious?, but from a Russian perspective? Can you tell us if you your country has ever allowed the USA to do war manuevers on your soil? If not do you think your countires leaders would ever be careless enough to allow such a thing to happen? Thanks in advance :) It is not about 'careless' it is about :infiltration: |
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RedDemonSlayer User ID: 1153876 United States 05/03/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When a nation like ours (United States) becomes as evil as we have straying from obedience to the moral and biblical laws (ie. Israel of old testament) God gives the nation over into the hands of its enemies... even military secrets and knowledge.... it's all in the good book.... nothing new under the sun... these are as signs and landmarks to tell the children of this generation what their fathers have seen and warn them not to repeat the same mistakes. Quoting: anonymous 10776423 which good book is that you are referring to? the good book of Moran? No... I think it was closer to this book... "Humanity's moral decay and collapse into the eternal abyss of damnation continues..." My favorite neg Karma left to me thus far ! "Delusional penis that believes anything..an idiot" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539700 Canada 05/03/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not pre-emptive it's retaliatory. Attempting to neutralize Russias nuclear deterrent is an aggressive act. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5319537 People forget that "defensive" missile shields were defined long ago as increasing the chance of an offensive first strike (upsetting stability, ie. MAD, since nuke retaliation, ie deterence against a first strike, is perceived to be diminished). Russia is simply reminding us of these long standing principles which have, till now, averted nuclear war between the super powers... and they are correct in that postulation. It took me all of 3 sentences to explain the situation, yet the MSM refuses to inform the population what a defensive missile shield signifies. Up till now Russia has appealed for common sense and historical precedent to persuade the US military establishment, in vain. And over the last few years we've heard of Russia attempts to counter the missile shield by a self guiding ballistic missile, able to radically change course in flight thus avoiding anti missile missiles. I dont know if they succeeded in that, but even if they did this is not stability. Deterrence is far better a mentality than "the first guy who shoots wins". This warning by Russia is not to the leaders of the US (that has already been said and done) but to individual Americans: "Get your act together and oppose this missile shield, you are being led astray by your military". And that is what is being concealed: the geo-political agenda of the US military to neutralize Russia with nuclear blackmail in the not too distant future (as the US implements plans that it knows Russia will not tolerate). Will Russia submit? If it doesnt want to, then their only course of action is to destroy the missile shield before it becomes operational. The cost of not doing so is far greater. That is why I think their threat is not just words... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15470690 Russia 05/03/2012 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just curious?, but from a Russian perspective? Can you tell us if you your country has ever allowed the USA to do war manuevers on your soil? If not do you think your countires leaders would ever be careless enough to allow such a thing to happen? Thanks in advance :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15462194 I can only speak from my own perspective, and what I personally see is that neither Russia nor USA do not exist anymore, the only thing which is still real today are alien groups fighting with each other for goals which has nothing to do with mankind, our so-called nations, governments and armies became tools in their cruel chess game. Just two quotes to make it more clear. From The Book of Black Serpent: "The relationship between the Archdaemons and the Qliphoth is that the Qliphoth rule on earth in temporal form and the Archdaemons rule the earth in a transcendent manner. One is visible and the other invisible. The invisible can be compelled to appear in divers shapes; as we will find out. Both the Archdaemons and the Qliphoth are entirely evil and are only to be overcome by the aid of celestial powers and virtues, both visible and invisible, and so the pious man will have nothing to fear from these 'intelligences' but the unwise and impious man may already be the victim of their assaults." From Aliens Behind the Super Powers and Super Alliances by Amitakh Stanford: "There are many different Anunnaki groups on Earth at this time, including, but not limited to, the Reptilians and their main competitors - known to we Attas as "Pers-sires" - for whom I subsequently coined the name of "Vulturites" for many reasons that I will explain another time. ... The Reptilians and the Vulturites have waited patiently throughout political, religious, economic, geographic, technological, arms build-ups and other wars for a long, long time. Events such as the Crusades, World War I and II, Middle East tension, the Cold War, the Vietnam War, and other events that occurred thousands of year ago and in the last century are all just markers as the two major groups posture for the upcoming battle for global domination. Both sides are now poised and gathering their forces for the final preparations. The battle will not be confined to shooting wars, which may not be as important as other forms of confrontations. ... The governments of many nations will now begin to openly re-align in accordance with their alien allegiances. The heads of state and the important cabinet members of most nations are either programmed to align with one of the major alien groups, or are themselves alien consciousnesses of one of the groups wearing the "clothes" of humans. ... Russia will join China and form a formidable alliance of Reptilian forces. Brazil, Italy, Iran, India, Iceland, Indonesia, Malaysia, France, Korea, Germany, Mexico, the Netherlands and others, after internal turmoil, will eventually gravitate towards the Sino-Russian alliance. Denmark, Australia, Jordan, Pakistan, Ukraine, Japan and most of the Asian countries, Spain, Canada and others will eventually gravitate towards the Vulturite power base in the U.S.A." [link to xeeatwelve.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7118492 Belgium 05/03/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not pre-emptive it's retaliatory. Attempting to neutralize Russias nuclear deterrent is an aggressive act. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5319537 People forget that "defensive" missile shields were defined long ago as increasing the chance of an offensive first strike (upsetting stability, ie. MAD, since nuke retaliation, ie deterence against a first strike, is perceived to be diminished). Russia is simply reminding us of these long standing principles which have, till now, averted nuclear war between the super powers... and they are correct in that postulation. It took me all of 3 sentences to explain the situation, yet the MSM refuses to inform the population what a defensive missile shield signifies. Up till now Russia has appealed for common sense and historical precedent to persuade the US military establishment, in vain. And over the last few years we've heard of Russia attempts to counter the missile shield by a self guiding ballistic missile, able to radically change course in flight thus avoiding anti missile missiles. I dont know if they succeeded in that, but even if they did this is not stability. Deterrence is far better a mentality than "the first guy who shoots wins". This warning by Russia is not to the leaders of the US (that has already been said and done) but to individual Americans: "Get your act together and oppose this missile shield, you are being led astray by your military". And that is what is being concealed: the geo-political agenda of the US military to neutralize Russia with nuclear blackmail in the not too distant future (as the US implements plans that it knows Russia will not tolerate). Will Russia submit? If it doesnt want to, then their only course of action is to destroy the missile shield before it becomes operational. The cost of not doing so is far greater. That is why I think their threat is not just words... What time frame are we talking about ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539700 Canada 05/03/2012 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Russia destroys the missile shield the US will not be able to retaliate to any great degree. MAD is still in effect. If they dont destroy the missile shield then MAD is no more, and the world faces nuclear first strike capabilities for the first time since 1948. I guess it is no use describing that world to the youngsters, esp those that are eager to fight and march to their military's upcoming wars. But you aint seen nothing yet... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8613411 United States 05/03/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the US goes ahead with controversial plans for a missile defence system based in Central Europe. Quoting: Osmosys [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Well, US made preemptive strikes popular, now they'll get a taste of it it seems. Thank you jeremiah wright. |
ragin1 User ID: 1323409 United States 05/03/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If Russia destroys the missile shield the US will not be able to retaliate to any great degree. MAD is still in effect. If they dont destroy the missile shield then MAD is no more, and the world faces nuclear first strike capabilities for the first time since 1948." Thank you. Nor does anyone seem to want to compare the sheild to the Cuban crisis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12173340 United Kingdom 05/03/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People seem to forget there isn't such a thing as Russia VS. the west. I used to believe this propaganda long ago, but it is absolute CRAP. Russia needs the west just like the west needs Russia. Nationalism is yesterdays news , this era is about big businesses whether they be in st petersberg or Wall st. Its all about making money. Russia is corrupt to the core and it is very unlikely they would favour any millitary action as this would destabalise their economy and fat cats, it is NEVER going to happen, get over it. |
Osmosys (OP) User ID: 7118492 Belgium 05/03/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If Russia destroys the missile shield the US will not be able to retaliate to any great degree. MAD is still in effect. If they dont destroy the missile shield then MAD is no more, and the world faces nuclear first strike capabilities for the first time since 1948." Quoting: ragin1 Thank you. Nor does anyone seem to want to compare the sheild to the Cuban crisis. It's a true comparison |
Osmosys (OP) User ID: 7118492 Belgium 05/03/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People seem to forget there isn't such a thing as Russia VS. the west. I used to believe this propaganda long ago, but it is absolute CRAP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12173340 Russia needs the west just like the west needs Russia. Nationalism is yesterdays news , this era is about big businesses whether they be in st petersberg or Wall st. Its all about making money. Russia is corrupt to the core and it is very unlikely they would favour any millitary action as this would destabalise their economy and fat cats, it is NEVER going to happen, get over it. Nationalism I'm afraid is not yesterday's news , It's tomorrows when the resources are becoming scarce . |