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Hell Hath No Fury Like A Private Prison. Collusion of State and Corporations to Put You in Prison?

 
Anonymous Coward
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05/03/2012 07:53 PM
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Re: Hell Hath No Fury Like A Private Prison. Collusion of State and Corporations to Put You in Prison?
So how it is more profitable when you have more prisoners to feed?
 Quoting: bigrex


Theprisons charge the State more than it actually costs to house an inmate. Welcome to corporate Fascism.
 Quoting: Shingen


And states go bankrupt what then. Labor perhaps.

A few years back a blogger in one of the southern states said her husband was incarcerated and that they would run out of things for weeks, such as soap, toilet paper, absurd meals like expired peanut butter & bread as the entire meal.

So I'm not so sure a bankrupt state will be the end of it and farm inmate services to corporate slavery. That will mean competition.

How about keeping people in for victimless crimes, past the minimum or longer.

Oh well! That CME is taking it's time getting here (checks watch).
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05/03/2012 08:14 PM
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If jurors would stop convicting people for breaking illegal laws maybe we would not have this problem. Utlimately the blame lies with jurors aka US.
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05/03/2012 08:15 PM
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If jurors would stop convicting people for breaking illegal laws maybe we would not have this problem. Utlimately the blame lies with jurors aka US.
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Hm,...very good point.





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05/03/2012 10:32 PM
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And states go bankrupt what then.
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The States go bankrupt because the currency becomes worthless.

It's not fucking brain surgery.
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05/03/2012 10:41 PM
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Re: Hell Hath No Fury Like A Private Prison. Collusion of State and Corporations to Put You in Prison?
OK dumb question but how do private corporations make money from running prisons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15294461


They charge more for the service than it costs for them to provide the service. Same as any other business.

There probably is a certain amount of fraud and theft involved just like any other corporate/government enterprise.
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05/04/2012 03:37 PM
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OK dumb question but how do private corporations make money from running prisons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15294461


They charge more for the service than it costs for them to provide the service. Same as any other business.

There probably is a certain amount of fraud and theft involved just like any other corporate/government enterprise.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Fraud involved??????? In our "Justice" system??????

No way chuckle



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I worked in the Juvenile Correctional Facility for 2 1/2 yrs.
Many troubled teens, takes a certain kind of person. And I wasn't one of them.
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05/04/2012 03:48 PM
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I worked in the Juvenile Correctional Facility for 2 1/2 yrs.
Many troubled teens, takes a certain kind of person. And I wasn't one of them.
 Quoting: Being Mindful


Praise Jesus!!! Who really is suited??

One must be soulless to oppress their own.



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I tried for about 6 months to be a security officer, they had me in Seg, the worse area, those were some troubled boys.
Pretty scarey too, But it's hard for officer's to defend themselves because kids can always claim abuse. You have to tread carefully dealing with these kids, they are so unpredictable. I have to respect anyone that can do that. So after 6 months I went to housekeeping and got transferred to the infirmery, which I liked alot better.
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That's downright scary. I see the system and how it works from the juvenile detention breaking them in. They literally give the kids no counseling and support, turn them back out onto the streets on probation with rules that are a complete change from their behaviors before they got arrested. They often fail and end up in and out of juvie. But, they make juvie fun, get to go to school, hang out with other kids, movies on Saturday night, rec during the day outdoors. Jail is SO not like that, and they will get a rude awakening once they have them comfortable with the cycle of going in and out of juvie. When they turn 18, they will find the system much less kind, less forgiving, and less supportive than it already barely is. And, they do not give the families any information about what to do when your child is arrested, what will happen, how to find a lawyer, any of that. They will just tell them to be in court on this day and that and make all of the decisions. They will provide a public defender (my friend calls it the public pretender) who basically is there to speak on behalf of the prosecuting DA's office, they work for the DA. They are there to ensure that the DA gets their bite and their money's worth out of the situation, every time. Then they send the parents bills for all of it and it is just a business. If your child has any type of developmental or mental disabilities, they will treat them pretty much the same as anyone else, which can end up bad.

I write to prisoners as a ministry that God put on my heart. They tell me a lot, and I have also visited prisoners in the big prisons several times. It is not a place anyone ever wants to be. It is inhumane and does nothing to turn them into better people, but rather, they come out with a twisted sense of reality and very unable to deal with normal people or society. Prison life turns even the tiniest things into something huge for them, because they have so very little. Even the smallest slight can get you stabbed or badly beaten, and the racism is very much a necessity of survival. You don't even dare befriend someone of the opposite race or take their side in any way, or you are considered a traitor. If a big fight breaks out, and you choose not to fight with your "race" against the others, then you will pay for it later from your side, big time. If you have any good thing in you, you better hide it well or get rid of it in there, or you may not make it. Imagine coming out on the streets with that kind of animalistic programming. Not to mention the ones who get raped or pawned out for use by whomever. And it still amazes me how they can get their drugs, amazing, and phones, etc. There's always someone willing to earn that black market $ in there.
 Quoting: SaintIn


Excellent post, and blessings to you in your work. I worked in juvenile hall, do not now want to go back, was a teacher assistant, so many of the other employees in all depts. were corrupt as heck and helped the kids by promoting bad behaviors. The hard ones would just laugh at the kids and how they would be back multiple times. Was just thinking about this today, I could not go back to gangster schools or juvie again, it is like being a drop of water in a septic tank trying to help. I admire your dedication.
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This is most likely the most frightening post ever to appear on GLP.

People too damn scared stupid to do anything about it though.



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 Quoting: zacksavage


That's because there is a mafia that will put you in one if you make trouble. They can entrap people using surveillance. This has to be stopped. It is like the Nazis. This is the evil that has overtaken Colorado. It happened in Pennsylvania too and other places. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS NOT DEAD IT IS VERY ACTIVE.
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Wow, this thread is five years old and spot on.

Now this:

Thread: Sessions: US to continue use of privately run prisons (Page 2)
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