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Microsoft plans to sell 4GB Xbox 360 Kinect bundle for $99, with a 2-year contract to Xbox Live... Privacy concern?
[link to www.forbes.com]

Is microsoft looking to boost sales? Or trying to expand their access to more people's living rooms?

I just found this article, and it reminded me of a thread a couple years back...

Thread: Microsoft's new "SpyToy", Kinect, is almost here. Will you buy one so they can watch you all day?


OP in that thread makes a good point about how the kinect could be used to watch certain people, not necessarily every Xbox/kinect owner.

I play on xbox live, and IMO could easily see how certain gamertags on live could be "red-flagged" under spy-like circumstances...

Just thought I'd share!

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Sometimes I feel like my console is really intuitive with the voice communication. Like it knows what is being said and alters things.
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I dig my kinect, seriously I do. I like how it has come to recognize me when I approach my kinect range, it signs me in and boots right to gears of war 3 with just a few words spoken.

Do they watch me?, what a boring show I must put on. What would they gain from watching a middle age gamer beat the shit outta kids half his age while drinking Jim Beam and laughing at them?
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I dig my kinect, seriously I do. I like how it has come to recognize me when I approach my kinect range, it signs me in and boots right to gears of war 3 with just a few words spoken.

Do they watch me?, what a boring show I must put on. What would they gain from watching a middle age gamer beat the shit outta kids half his age while drinking Jim Beam and laughing at them?
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agreed..while some conspiracies land up being true..there is something a lot of peeps into conspiracies fail to acknowledge and that is the majority ..and its a BIG MAJORITY of all conspiracies are just mumbo jumbo and land up never being true..ever!

Thats not to say the government wouldnt use a camera on a laptop or phone to use for monitoring a criminal or some sort of illegal activity..i am sure they do or will at some point but to use Kinect to spy on which are mostly kids and teens or adults that happen to be into gaming? Come on...
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[link to www.forbes.com]

Is microsoft looking to boost sales? Or trying to expand their access to more people's living rooms?

I just found this article, and it reminded me of a thread a couple years back...

Thread: Microsoft's new "SpyToy", Kinect, is almost here. Will you buy one so they can watch you all day?


OP in that thread makes a good point about how the kinect could be used to watch certain people, not necessarily every Xbox/kinect owner.

I play on xbox live, and IMO could easily see how certain gamertags on live could be "red-flagged" under spy-like circumstances...

Just thought I'd share!

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that two year contract comes to a whopping $360 bucks ..most people are not going to jump head over heels for this deal..thats a total of 460 bucks when its all said and done.
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I dig my kinect, seriously I do. I like how it has come to recognize me when I approach my kinect range, it signs me in and boots right to gears of war 3 with just a few words spoken.

Do they watch me?, what a boring show I must put on. What would they gain from watching a middle age gamer beat the shit outta kids half his age while drinking Jim Beam and laughing at them?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


agreed..while some conspiracies land up being true..there is something a lot of peeps into conspiracies fail to acknowledge and that is the majority ..and its a BIG MAJORITY of all conspiracies are just mumbo jumbo and land up never being true..ever!

Thats not to say the government wouldnt use a camera on a laptop or phone to use for monitoring a criminal or some sort of illegal activity..i am sure they do or will at some point but to use Kinect to spy on which are mostly kids and teens or adults that happen to be into gaming? Come on...
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Derp, why WOULDN'T they watch, It's their wet dream come true
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I dig my kinect, seriously I do. I like how it has come to recognize me when I approach my kinect range, it signs me in and boots right to gears of war 3 with just a few words spoken.

Do they watch me?, what a boring show I must put on. What would they gain from watching a middle age gamer beat the shit outta kids half his age while drinking Jim Beam and laughing at them?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


agreed..while some conspiracies land up being true..there is something a lot of peeps into conspiracies fail to acknowledge and that is the majority ..and its a BIG MAJORITY of all conspiracies are just mumbo jumbo and land up never being true..ever!

Thats not to say the government wouldnt use a camera on a laptop or phone to use for monitoring a criminal or some sort of illegal activity..i am sure they do or will at some point but to use Kinect to spy on which are mostly kids and teens or adults that happen to be into gaming? Come on...
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Derp, why WOULDN'T they watch, It's their wet dream come true
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Get a grip okay?, do you really comprehend what the fuck it would take to activate a kinect remotely, undetected, and get away with it?.... Without anyone else in charge finding out and busting your blls with a ball peen hammer!.

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Re: Microsoft plans to sell 4GB Xbox 360 Kinect bundle for $99, with a 2-year contract to Xbox Live... Privacy concern?
Not to mention, this would give incentive to purchase the new console, since they have this 2 year service agreement with xbox live. When the next gen consoles come out, people will be clamoring.
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I dig my kinect, seriously I do. I like how it has come to recognize me when I approach my kinect range, it signs me in and boots right to gears of war 3 with just a few words spoken.

Do they watch me?, what a boring show I must put on. What would they gain from watching a middle age gamer beat the shit outta kids half his age while drinking Jim Beam and laughing at them?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


agreed..while some conspiracies land up being true..there is something a lot of peeps into conspiracies fail to acknowledge and that is the majority ..and its a BIG MAJORITY of all conspiracies are just mumbo jumbo and land up never being true..ever!

Thats not to say the government wouldnt use a camera on a laptop or phone to use for monitoring a criminal or some sort of illegal activity..i am sure they do or will at some point but to use Kinect to spy on which are mostly kids and teens or adults that happen to be into gaming? Come on...
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Derp, why WOULDN'T they watch, It's their wet dream come true
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15456464


Sick fuck much?

So, basically you are saying that given the opportunity to spy on people, you'd do it because you think that others are doing it already? I'm really trying to like people from Australia on this site, but so many of your countrymen/women are seriously fucking deranged.

Get a grip okay?, do you really comprehend what the fuck it would take to activate a kinect remotely, undetected, and get away with it?.... Without anyone else in charge finding out and busting your blls with a ball peen hammer!.

Do me a favor, get sober.
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Read English, they and their would indicate,, NOT ME!!!
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It's just a camera, it would destroy Microsoft and the entire worlds trust, and irrevocably harm most social networking for decades for even a single event were to happen.

Last Edited by Redpaw360 on 05/04/2012 04:31 AM
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Re: Microsoft plans to sell 4GB Xbox 360 Kinect bundle for $99, with a 2-year contract to Xbox Live... Privacy concern?
They're trying to sell the GAMES, its all about the GAMES you see.
Not the cheap shit china made box to play them on.
Because you see there are now devices emulators that allow you to play games from downloaded iso files.
And any idiot can use them you don't have to be smart and know about flashing and such.
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It's just a camera, it would destroy Microsoft and the entire worlds trust, and irrevocably harm most social networking for decades for even a single event were to happen.
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Your username may give away your loyalty, Redpaw360!!!
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I like mine. I figure they're not going to learn anything terribly interesting even if they were to spy on me with it, and I really like the voice command and motion controls for netflix; it's almost minority report-esque when you're scrolling through a video's timeline. The games are pretty fun for parties too.
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It's just a camera, it would destroy Microsoft and the entire worlds trust, and irrevocably harm most social networking for decades for even a single event were to happen.
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Your username may give away your loyalty, Redpaw360!!!
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I have nothing to hide. I game the shit out of my unit and my gamertag is nothing special, it actually shows I don't game as much as I'd like to.

Shoot me a friend request and let's get a gears match going, I always welcome decent people into my games. We can team up or play against each other.... Up to you.
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It's just a camera, it would destroy Microsoft and the entire worlds trust, and irrevocably harm most social networking for decades for even a single event were to happen.
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Your username may give away your loyalty, Redpaw360!!!
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I have nothing to hide. I game the shit out of my unit and my gamertag is nothing special, it actually shows I don't game as much as I'd like to.

Shoot me a friend request and let's get a gears match going, I always welcome decent people into my games. We can team up or play against each other.... Up to you.
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Come on man you're middle aged by a motorbike or a boat or something cruise
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I like mine. I figure they're not going to learn anything terribly interesting even if they were to spy on me with it, and I really like the voice command and motion controls for netflix; it's almost minority report-esque when you're scrolling through a video's timeline. The games are pretty fun for parties too.
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No shit on the parties factor, there is nothing more entertaining than seeing half plastered adults thinking they can do Dance Central for more than five minutes without passing out from exhaustion.
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It's just a camera, it would destroy Microsoft and the entire worlds trust, and irrevocably harm most social networking for decades for even a single event were to happen.
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Your username may give away your loyalty, Redpaw360!!!
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I have nothing to hide. I game the shit out of my unit and my gamertag is nothing special, it actually shows I don't game as much as I'd like to.

Shoot me a friend request and let's get a gears match going, I always welcome decent people into my games. We can team up or play against each other.... Up to you.
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Come on man you're middle aged by a motorbike or a boat or something cruise
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I bought a telescope. A 12" dobsonian with all the better EP's and filters. The water is too cold here 10 months outta the year, and a motorcycle will get you run over by the cage drivers here within a year.
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Your username may give away your loyalty, Redpaw360!!!
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I have nothing to hide. I game the shit out of my unit and my gamertag is nothing special, it actually shows I don't game as much as I'd like to.

Shoot me a friend request and let's get a gears match going, I always welcome decent people into my games. We can team up or play against each other.... Up to you.
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Come on man you're middle aged by a motorbike or a boat or something cruise
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I bought a telescope. A 12" dobsonian with all the better EP's and filters. The water is too cold here 10 months outta the year, and a motorcycle will get you run over by the cage drivers here within a year.
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Excellent choice. What's your eyepiece lineup?
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I have nothing to hide. I game the shit out of my unit and my gamertag is nothing special, it actually shows I don't game as much as I'd like to.

Shoot me a friend request and let's get a gears match going, I always welcome decent people into my games. We can team up or play against each other.... Up to you.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Come on man you're middle aged by a motorbike or a boat or something cruise
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I bought a telescope. A 12" dobsonian with all the better EP's and filters. The water is too cold here 10 months outta the year, and a motorcycle will get you run over by the cage drivers here within a year.
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Excellent choice. What's your eyepiece lineup?
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I run with the 2" Baader 31mm, the Baader planetarium filter and sky haze, and a Barlow doubler as my main most used setup. I'm trying to score a televue ethos in the near future, thinking somewhere in the low 20mm range.
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Come on man you're middle aged by a motorbike or a boat or something cruise
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I bought a telescope. A 12" dobsonian with all the better EP's and filters. The water is too cold here 10 months outta the year, and a motorcycle will get you run over by the cage drivers here within a year.
 Quoting: Redpaw360

Excellent choice. What's your eyepiece lineup?
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I run with the 2" Baader 31mm, the Baader planetarium filter and sky haze, and a Barlow doubler as my main most used setup. I'm trying to score a televue ethos in the near future, thinking somewhere in the low 20mm range.
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Fascinating, that's an aspheric eyepiece? I haven't had the chance to try one yet, but I think you'd be very well served by an ethos as well.
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I bought a telescope. A 12" dobsonian with all the better EP's and filters. The water is too cold here 10 months outta the year, and a motorcycle will get you run over by the cage drivers here within a year.
 Quoting: Redpaw360

Excellent choice. What's your eyepiece lineup?
 Quoting: Astromut


I run with the 2" Baader 31mm, the Baader planetarium filter and sky haze, and a Barlow doubler as my main most used setup. I'm trying to score a televue ethos in the near future, thinking somewhere in the low 20mm range.
 Quoting: Redpaw360

Fascinating, that's an aspheric eyepiece? I haven't had the chance to try one yet, but I think you'd be very well served by an ethos as well.
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Yes, it is very well made compared to the free EP's that come with the scope. It feels like a grenade in your hands and actually it acts like a counterweight to the Dob at times if the adjustment knobs are not set right.

I definitely have the Ethos on the wish list, I used one last summer on another scope at a star party.... Pure eye relief beauty.
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Excellent choice. What's your eyepiece lineup?
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I run with the 2" Baader 31mm, the Baader planetarium filter and sky haze, and a Barlow doubler as my main most used setup. I'm trying to score a televue ethos in the near future, thinking somewhere in the low 20mm range.
 Quoting: Redpaw360

Fascinating, that's an aspheric eyepiece? I haven't had the chance to try one yet, but I think you'd be very well served by an ethos as well.
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Yes, it is very well made compared to the free EP's that come with the scope. It feels like a grenade in your hands and actually it acts like a counterweight to the Dob at times if the adjustment knobs are not set right.

I definitely have the Ethos on the wish list, I used one last summer on another scope at a star party.... Pure eye relief beauty.
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Yeah, it sounds like Baader's answer to the Panoptic, and it sounds like a very nice piece of glass. I myself have a 32mm "super wide field" from Meade which is their not-as-nice version of a Panoptic, also very grenade-like. Of course I'm more of a camera guy for my own scope, but I love looking through the big dobs at star parties.
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I run with the 2" Baader 31mm, the Baader planetarium filter and sky haze, and a Barlow doubler as my main most used setup. I'm trying to score a televue ethos in the near future, thinking somewhere in the low 20mm range.
 Quoting: Redpaw360

Fascinating, that's an aspheric eyepiece? I haven't had the chance to try one yet, but I think you'd be very well served by an ethos as well.
 Quoting: Astromut


Yes, it is very well made compared to the free EP's that come with the scope. It feels like a grenade in your hands and actually it acts like a counterweight to the Dob at times if the adjustment knobs are not set right.

I definitely have the Ethos on the wish list, I used one last summer on another scope at a star party.... Pure eye relief beauty.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


Yeah, it sounds like Baader's answer to the Panoptic, and it sounds like a very nice piece of glass. I myself have a 32mm "super wide field" from Meade which is their not-as-nice version of a Panoptic, also very grenade-like. Of course I'm more of a camera guy for my own scope, but I love looking through the big dobs at star parties.
 Quoting: Astromut


I wouldn't kick a Meade super to the curb, I almost bought a set of those when I was deciding on what direction to take. I've seen most of your work that is posted, and various videos. The video with the jet blasting through was a great catch.

I can't do camera yet, it really doesn't work well on a Dob except when landscaping local mountains. Keep up the great work Astro, some of us appreciate it.

Talk later.
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lol at the brainwashed braindead xboxtards trying to justify the big brother policestate takeover of their bodies, minds and souls
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lol at the brainwashed braindead xboxtards trying to justify the big brother policestate takeover of their bodies, minds and souls
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Paranoid much?.

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Kinect + wifi connection is a bad idea.

For obvious reasons.

If those reasons are not obvious to you now, they will be later.
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lol at the brainwashed braindead xboxtards trying to justify the big brother policestate takeover of their bodies, minds and souls
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Paranoid much?.

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you still her, doth protest a bit too much I think