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One Whom Dwells
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11/27/2005 12:11 PM
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WELL UP TO THIS MOMENT IN TIME.....YES...LOVE IS!
QuantumHost  (OP)

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11/27/2005 12:13 PM
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Dwells

Are there more questions or answers in your life?

Like life clarity?
Fuzzy Nutz

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11/27/2005 12:19 PM
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We seem to need a definition and distinction of the interpritations of "power"
Energy (potential)
Force (exerted)
Control (exercised/ domination)

The meaning of "power" changes when we expand our understanding of the universe. It seems to me that the higher we evolve, the less likely we will be to exert controlling power. In that way, the exertation of force is a hallmark of a lack of understanding.
Pehaps that explains why an all powerful God allows us to run amok. And why ETI´s aren´t getting involved in our barbarous conflicts.

QH, always thought provoking, but never dictatorial. You are a GLP A-list celebrity. Thanks for being.
QuantumHost  (OP)

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11/27/2005 12:26 PM
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Fuzzy Nutz

You have your finger on something here...

Maybe power is about ascension to a place where it is held by all... and there is no need for its display?

Lower realms --simply playgrounds for practice?
QuantumHost  (OP)

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11/27/2005 12:29 PM
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Fuzzy Nutz

"You are a GLP A-list celebrity."

We are but a figment of your imagination.
peacepeacepeace
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11/27/2005 12:29 PM
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Power corrupts because the nature of primate social networks warps perception. If you´re at the top of a social network you´ll tend to believe you got there by personal merit instead of random accident, and the view from that position will reinforce that belief. Secrecy is tyranny, and the truth about primate social networking remains a mystery to most people, even to many at or near the top.
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11/27/2005 03:16 PM
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Doomed Destiny

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11/27/2005 03:39 PM
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FN & QH,
All I can add to that:
cheers

It warms my heart to see the handle Fuzzy Nuts to be used by such a wise and benevolent poster! Gives me hope for the other somewhat-corny puns. (^_-)


And your name intrigues me, QH. I know what the term ´Host´ usually entitles in this day and age, but I feel you might have used it with the intention of a meaning that is generally more feared (by the masses). I won´t guess or press further in the subject, but I am curious. If you wish to give me some mysterious reply I guess I will just have to content myself with my own ponderings. (^_^)

Peace and love to those that choose it! hf

Namaste,
#139
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be."
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Voltaire
QuantumHost  (OP)

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11/27/2005 06:56 PM
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Doomed Destiny

Those who facilitate exchange, once existence is granted by the observer.

Quantum – Existence granted by the observer.
Host – To facilitate exchange of perspectives.


alienship
Fuzzy Nutz

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11/27/2005 07:01 PM
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I freely grant you existence, and welcome you into my realm.
C´mon over for some acorns.
What we as a race have to contribute, I do not know. Short of "probing" you are welcome to anything I have or know.
ETHEREAL / MAM
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11/27/2005 07:01 PM
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cheer
spyderweb

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11/27/2005 08:53 PM
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What a lovely thread this is! My compliments!

Someone earlier made the point that:

POWER = CHOICE

I think there is a lot of truth to that. I believe we are immensely powerful - just in being ourselves. We make tiny choices in every moment that affect the next choices available to us. Everything we think and do has consequences. This is how we create our own reality. And furthermore I believe we are all connected, so the choices we make affect everyone.

I´d like to add another equation to be pondered:

POWER = RESPONSIBILITY

Since this power is intrinsic to us, it is not the power that corrupts, but the choices we make about how we use it, and the responsibility we accept for those choices and their consequences.
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11/27/2005 09:30 PM
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“Acts of power are here each day... every soul makes a choice (intent) to either influence, convince or tell another what to think.”

And

“. . . I believe we are immensely powerful - just in being ourselves. We make tiny choices in every moment that affect the next choices available to us. Everything we think and do has consequences. This is how we create our own reality. And furthermore I believe we are all connected, so the choices we make affect everyone.”

I found myself in the position of appearing to have quite a bit of power to influence others. It wasn’t something I sought, and frankly wasn’t something I wanted. I’ve gradually extricated myself from most of that. I’m not really interested in having “power” over others. If I can make sure that I’m doing the best I can do, at whatever point I am, that is all I really want. If others are influenced by me, I hope it will just be by the example I’ve set.
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Spyde

"I believe we are immensely powerful - just in being ourselves. We make tiny choices in every moment that affect the next choices available to us. Everything we think and do has consequences. This is how we create our own reality. And furthermore I believe we are all connected, so the choices we make affect everyone."

This belongs on every refrigerator in the land. Compliments to your share.
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11/27/2005 09:59 PM
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ETHEREAL

hihihi
october ~MystNavIgator~

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11/27/2005 10:10 PM
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A powerful thread, QH!

Thank you...

and thanks to all of US!grouphug



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11/27/2005 11:32 PM
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QuantumHost:

Thank you very much! Your explanation proved to be quite insightful!
Just what I was looking for. (^_^)



October:

headbanghf



spyderweb:

I think you nailed it right on the head there! Karma (or whatever you will) seems to me to be more of a direct relationship in your responsibility toward your greater self (God/Collective, whatever you prefer). Though I might be putting it somewhat too simply, karma is asking the question of "Do you choose to live a positive out-put (addition/multiplication) lifestyle or a negative (subtraction/division) one?"

Based on the Law of Attraction, whatever you generate will be what you get back in return. Postive energy can add to your strength when giving and multiply it when recieving. Same equal-opposite laws apply to negative energy which inturn minuses your strength when giving and divides it when recieving. As you can see, it can be quite obvious how a negative path can quickly lead to self-destruction on any/all layers. Tis a good thing I believe that even the darkest hearts on this earth do not walk a path entirely of negativity. Negative energies are what creates Black Holes methinks.



#11675:

I know what you mean. It seems the more and more I spiral through these thoughts/feelings/sensations and finally seem to root myself in a perspective that seems more familar than alien - people become drawn to me. My friends and family hang onto my every word, it seems, and (while I´m normally a quiet person so that might explain it partially) truly try to listen to what I´m saying. I feel this to be true because they recognize on some layer that I truly listen to and respect them. I´m not waiting my turn to speak (anyone know a few people like this?) as I´m truly interested in what they say. They plainly SEE it through my body language and my engagment in this conversation. They listen to me because on some layer they know I´m looking at them (or attempting to at least, heh) from an unbiased point of view totally in love.

With all of this said, I don´t mind this power at all. In fact, it is much more enjoyable to be as I am then to rub people the wrong way. We´ve been taught by some teachers that this is wrong or that we shouldn´t be respected as such. Nonsense I say! There is no reason not to love and respect everyone (which includes yourself) as equals! As long as you are enjoying the peace and natural synchronicities and not forcing anything along or subverting people for ego trips - so to speak - then you have nothing to worry about.

Be proud that people can look into your heart and actually trust you. For them to give you that, especially in this day and age, must mean you love them very much indeed.

Namaste,
#139
"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be."
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Voltaire
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11/28/2005 01:02 AM
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Aquiring power you already have, or other power because you don´t believe in your own, is probably what leads to corruption.

Ever seen the anarchist cartoon with the caption "Each has power over someone elses life, but not their own."??
ETHEREAL /Mam
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11/28/2005 01:24 AM
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Hey QH ....hi


How´s it shakin´ with ´yous´ lately?

Hope you´re doing well...



flower flower flower
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11/28/2005 01:55 AM
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Power; a beacon of light in a darkened world.
QuantumHost  (OP)

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11/28/2005 08:40 AM
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"Power is when you have every justification to kill someone, and then you don´t."
-Oskar Shindler
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I came back to see what all the fuss was about.. thought Id login and say hello. Hi.

You know.. its threads like these that made me fall in love with this place. I truly do miss the old days.

Read through this thread.. pleasant all the way.



bttt
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A dignified answer is always mutable when you consider the whole. It is for YOU to learn of yourself that you may improve upon the whole of creation.
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08/01/2009 01:31 AM
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Why does the acquisition of it, corrupt many to their soul?
 Quoting: Quantum Host


Power needs to be dealt with when it is small, appreciate the little things, its only in the learning of dealing with small amounts of power that one learns to deal with large amounts of power.

IT corrupts many because the power is not cotrolled, so the power controls them.

So that person makes decision from the vantage point of the power and not the man, man needs to make the decision from his vantage point, to do this, man must know himself, to know his own power, then direct power from mans vantage point, for man, by man.

Not for power by power

Seek within

<<<RA>>>
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08/01/2009 10:22 AM
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Qualia

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08/01/2009 10:38 AM
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Knowledge is power, or a powerful resource. There is nothing inherently wrong with such a power in and of itself, it is how one chooses to exersize it as a resource that defines its value.

In the hand/s of selfishness such power is controling and manipulative. In the hand/s of service orientation it stimulates growth and further wisdom.
If you spin in your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.
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08/01/2009 02:13 PM
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Do you not agree that this is so because of lack of discipline to expand some domains and minimize others? As in personal responsibility?
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There have been periods in my life, unlike now where, I had more temporal power.

IT WAS A LOT OF FREAKIN WORK!

Had to babysit my career, had to babysit my perks, property, wealth...

I lost my real identity to finally crash and burn. In fact it should have killed my sorry butt. ALMOST DID!

I finally just walked away. I mean left it all. GONE!

Camped in the mountains for a season, piddled around with odd jobs and started over with a much different slant.
 Quoting: Emperor Kenton

Very similar to my story Kent.
I found that real power is having control over yourself, not life controlling you.
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Do you not agree that this is so because of lack of discipline to expand some domains and minimize others? As in personal responsibility?
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There have been periods in my life, unlike now where, I had more temporal power.

IT WAS A LOT OF FREAKIN WORK!

Had to babysit my career, had to babysit my perks, property, wealth...

I lost my real identity to finally crash and burn. In fact it should have killed my sorry butt. ALMOST DID!

I finally just walked away. I mean left it all. GONE!

Camped in the mountains for a season, piddled around with odd jobs and started over with a much different slant.

Very similar to my story Kent.
I found that real power is having control over yourself, not life controlling you.
 Quoting: Pi 664538


Ahhh the Memories...Kent died last year.





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