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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 05/09/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to drive an early 80's VW diesel that was rated 40mpg. No computer, simple injection system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081381 Run it on waste fry oil and drive through the projects and you'll be chased down the street... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Fand User ID: 15312659 United States 05/09/2012 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 70mpg cars are quite common here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 Basic BMW diesel engines are capable of that But the gas is much more expensive, so i'm thinking there's no big difference (We're all equally fucked). The big difference is the benefit to the environment, due to less fuel being burned. In the USA, they don't want us to have such technologies because it would actually HELP protect the environment. It's completely unacceptable that the US is still driving these inefficient cars, while the rest of the world has access to much higher standards! Bull shit! I'm so fed up with this crap! |
fand User ID: 15312659 United States 05/09/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not you again! You are such an idiot! These so-called tree-huggers you speak of are the very reason why cars running at 70 mpg exist! Thank idiot fascist amercian gov't for banning the sort of technology that all the tree-huggers would be thrilled to have access to! ASSHOLE! |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 05/09/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not you again! You are such an idiot! These so-called tree-huggers you speak of are the very reason why cars running at 70 mpg exist! Thank idiot fascist amercian gov't for banning the sort of technology that all the tree-huggers would be thrilled to have access to! ASSHOLE! Nope, the tree huggers want you to ride bicycles and ban anything that burns fossil fuels...they hear Al Gore tell stories about hydrocarbons and co2 and they cry...don't drop a light bulb or they will call Hazmat on you. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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in5d User ID: 1509000 United States 05/09/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a little off-topic but I thought I read somewhere that new technologies are not allowed to exceed 35% of the current EPA average MPG. this was brought up during the hydrogen car debate a few months ago. does anyone remember hearing something along these lines? Last Edited by in5d on 05/09/2012 03:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1067992 United States 05/09/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | safety laws continue adding weight as crash protection, crumple zones, side bars, etc and the cars get heavier many countries do not hold our safety standards and it makes us "One of the list's surprises: the U.S., which ranks eighth most dangerous" [link to www.forbes.com] my 1972 dodge dart gets 30 mpg, weighs 3800#, and is easily repairable with even the most basic mechanic skills how far we haven't come dr If it were about "safety", motorcycles would be illegal. |
CtYankee User ID: 11653208 United States 05/09/2012 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rented a disel VW in Germany....got over 55 MPG!!!! And I got to drive the hell out of it on on the Autobaun.......at 150kph we got....over 70mpg!!!! I never thought about it this way but then they can find a way around it I'm sure CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
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CtYankee User ID: 11653208 United States 05/09/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not you again! You are such an idiot! These so-called tree-huggers you speak of are the very reason why cars running at 70 mpg exist! Thank idiot fascist amercian gov't for banning the sort of technology that all the tree-huggers would be thrilled to have access to! ASSHOLE! Nope, the tree huggers want you to ride bicycles and ban anything that burns fossil fuels...they hear Al Gore tell stories about hydrocarbons and co2 and they cry...don't drop a light bulb or they will call Hazmat on you. NO....the fucking tree huggers are supported by big oil and big lumber....where the fuck have you been....oh ye I forgot about you living in never never land CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 05/09/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not you again! You are such an idiot! These so-called tree-huggers you speak of are the very reason why cars running at 70 mpg exist! Thank idiot fascist amercian gov't for banning the sort of technology that all the tree-huggers would be thrilled to have access to! ASSHOLE! Nope, the tree huggers want you to ride bicycles and ban anything that burns fossil fuels...they hear Al Gore tell stories about hydrocarbons and co2 and they cry...don't drop a light bulb or they will call Hazmat on you. NO....the fucking tree huggers are supported by big oil and big lumber....where the fuck have you been....oh ye I forgot about you living in never never land Big oil would love to drill the Dakotas, but they can't because of the tree huggers...why would big oil shoot themselves in the foot? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7709473 United States 05/09/2012 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 70mpg cars are quite common here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475310 Basic BMW diesel engines are capable of that But the gas is much more expensive, so i'm thinking there's no big difference (We're all equally fucked). That's not the point. Why aren't these cars available in the US? Our high fuel prices are due to tax. Can you not really figure it out? Really? Really? Really? It very simple. Having such cars take money away from the Oil and Gas giants. These same companies that are owned by politicians who then invent wars to further their profits. Simple to understand. There is technology was beyond this tech available. Has been for years. Google the Tesla Model. And the Austin Model. Taxes on energy is just another method to extract wealth from the People. Since the context of this thread in the US, the Government derives its power from the People. Thus, any resources taken and used from the Geographic area of the United States of America, and not the United States, should be of the Public Trust. Gaddafi had this mindset in Libya, in regards to the proceeds derived from Oil production. Maybe that is another reason why ZATO took him out. |
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Sledster User ID: 982167 Germany 05/09/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew the answer and stated it before I watched the video...and I was right. Fuck the EPA What now trolls and idiots? LoL! I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
Éireann User ID: 15569543 United States 05/09/2012 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's true. Emission rules in USA esp California are more strict than other countries that tend to ruin fuel efficiency. Somehow this just seems backwards to me. Ya know? You'd think if a car got 70mpg, rather than 28mpg, it would be less polluting. I just can't for the life of me understand the emission law thing when it comes to mpg. I guess I'm brain dead It has to do with the chemistry...when HC, CO, CO2 and Nox come out of the engine as a result of combustion, the catalyst reaction turns them into CO2 and H2O with some O2 left over...see how simple that is? Well, yes, Brief. I know that part of how an engine works, but isn't it also true that to get the higher MPG what would have been exhaust is recycled back into the engine as fuel which means that there are less emissions? Or am I totally missing it? Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 05/09/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AlcoholicRunner It's true. Emission rules in USA esp California are more strict than other countries that tend to ruin fuel efficiency. Somehow this just seems backwards to me. Ya know? You'd think if a car got 70mpg, rather than 28mpg, it would be less polluting. I just can't for the life of me understand the emission law thing when it comes to mpg. I guess I'm brain dead It has to do with the chemistry...when HC, CO, CO2 and Nox come out of the engine as a result of combustion, the catalyst reaction turns them into CO2 and H2O with some O2 left over...see how simple that is? Well, yes, Brief. I know that part of how an engine works, but isn't it also true that to get the higher MPG what would have been exhaust is recycled back into the engine as fuel which means that there are less emissions? Or am I totally missing it? No, if you are thinking of a turbo, the spent gasses just run an air compressor to ram more air into each cylinder but you still end up with oxides of nitrogen (Nox) due to high compression...the only way to clean that up is with a catalytic converter... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Éireann User ID: 15569543 United States 05/09/2012 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Éireann Somehow this just seems backwards to me. Ya know? You'd think if a car got 70mpg, rather than 28mpg, it would be less polluting. I just can't for the life of me understand the emission law thing when it comes to mpg. I guess I'm brain dead It has to do with the chemistry...when HC, CO, CO2 and Nox come out of the engine as a result of combustion, the catalyst reaction turns them into CO2 and H2O with some O2 left over...see how simple that is? Well, yes, Brief. I know that part of how an engine works, but isn't it also true that to get the higher MPG what would have been exhaust is recycled back into the engine as fuel which means that there are less emissions? Or am I totally missing it? No, if you are thinking of a turbo, the spent gasses just run an air compressor to ram more air into each cylinder but you still end up with oxides of nitrogen (Nox) due to high compression...the only way to clean that up is with a catalytic converter... Ahhh! K. Now I get it. Thanks, Brief :D Last Edited by Eireann on 05/09/2012 11:30 PM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Risqman User ID: 7391717 United States 05/09/2012 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks,,, Simple,,, all the other parts of the world have found a happy balance between clean air and good mpg.. Quoting: Sodbust 15777811 Our EPA,, went way beyond common sense and is the reason why our cars get 1/2 of what they could get.. After all if we used 1/2 the fuel where would the TAXes come from to fix the roads????????? Its all a big game to dig deeper in our pockets.. Sodbust Catalysts here in the US are "supposed" to help clean the environment but in my 2002 Monte Carlo the cat became so clogged at 100k miles that the mileage had dropped below 20 MPG. I "took" care of the issue and I'm getting over 34 MPG and the car is running better than it was when we got it with only 65k miles on it and the most we ever got in highway MPG's was 29.5. So tell me the cat is cleaning the air while screwing up MPG's and ruining the engine by making it run hotter! It runs hotter and causes the engine to wear faster and the oil won't last 2500 miles much less the 6000 they "suggest" you change it in! Frackin EPA sucks IMO! No catalysts overseas on their cars and they drive more than 60mph upwards of 100mph usually and their cars last much longer. Makes you wonder doesn't it? |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 05/10/2012 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks,,, Simple,,, all the other parts of the world have found a happy balance between clean air and good mpg.. Quoting: Sodbust 15777811 Our EPA,, went way beyond common sense and is the reason why our cars get 1/2 of what they could get.. After all if we used 1/2 the fuel where would the TAXes come from to fix the roads????????? Its all a big game to dig deeper in our pockets.. Sodbust Catalysts here in the US are "supposed" to help clean the environment but in my 2002 Monte Carlo the cat became so clogged at 100k miles that the mileage had dropped below 20 MPG. I "took" care of the issue and I'm getting over 34 MPG and the car is running better than it was when we got it with only 65k miles on it and the most we ever got in highway MPG's was 29.5. So tell me the cat is cleaning the air while screwing up MPG's and ruining the engine by making it run hotter! It runs hotter and causes the engine to wear faster and the oil won't last 2500 miles much less the 6000 they "suggest" you change it in! Frackin EPA sucks IMO! No catalysts overseas on their cars and they drive more than 60mph upwards of 100mph usually and their cars last much longer. Makes you wonder doesn't it? Actually, what happened to your car is a design flaw in the aluminum plenum...flakes of aluminum got sucked through the intake and caught in the converter substrate... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |