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25 Valedictorians In ONE High School...Everyone's a WINNER!

 
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25 Valedictorians In ONE High School...Everyone's a WINNER!
This kind of CRAP is EXACTLY why our country is going down the shitter! Trophies for everyone in sports was just the beginning...don't want to HURT anyones FEELINGS!cry

And, what the hell is a 5.0 GPA? 1dunno1


As many as 25 Vanguard High School seniors could end up tied for the honor of valedictorian, with each student on pace to earn all A's in 24 college-level courses to secure a perfect 5.0 weighted grade point average.


Last year, 11 Vanguard seniors achieved the honor, prompting a debate that led the School Board to form a committee to look into changing the policy on how valedictorians are selected.


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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Socialist high school. No losers! Gettin em ready for the REAL world!
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THIS is RIDICULOUS !!! What a slap in the face to all the kids in other schools who work their butts off to get good grades. It seems that this whole thing is rigged to make that school district look good.
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Gee, maybe we should have 30-40 CEOs per company, or, how about a couple dozen POTUS's...wouldn't want to hurt any of the other candiates wittle FEELINGS! redface
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Gee, maybe we should have 30-40 CEOs per company, or, how about a couple dozen POTUS's...wouldn't want to hurt any of the other candiates wittle FEELINGS! redface
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Sounds fine to me. Businesses should be run as democracies rather than dictatorships. That would make working for a living less dehumanizing.
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THIS is RIDICULOUS !!! What a slap in the face to all the kids in other schools who work their butts off to get good grades. It seems that this whole thing is rigged to make that school district look good.
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That's why the kids now entering the job market have to be treated differently.....they been brought up with people telling them they did a "good job" when it was just average, getting trophies for participating tho not winning, and needed recognition for everything they do....
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Gee, maybe we should have 30-40 CEOs per company, or, how about a couple dozen POTUS's...wouldn't want to hurt any of the other candiates wittle FEELINGS! redface
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Sounds fine to me. Businesses should be run as democracies rather than dictatorships. That would make working for a living less dehumanizing.
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As much as I hate the "trophy for everyone" mentality, this doesn't quite seem to be the case here. All of the students have achieved the same remarkable grade.

What I'm more curious about is the grading practices here. Sure, there could be some odd convergence of super-teachers here, but I'm thinking it's more likely that the teachers are grading a bit easier to make sure their performance stays high for more money for their school.
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THIS is RIDICULOUS !!! What a slap in the face to all the kids in other schools who work their butts off to get good grades.
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What gives you the impression that these kids didn't work their butts off to get good grades? Did you read the article?

The valedictorian policy is beyond stupid but don't take anything away from the students that earned their grades.
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I thought they searched back through prior grade level records. That caused someone I know to become salutatorian through one percentage point difference on an 8th grade test. These bureaucrats are lazy!

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valedictorian is the honor placed upon the graduating senior with the highest GPA.

how do you distinguish one from another when they have identical GPAs?

i don't believe that this is an indication of just giving awards out to make everyone feel good.

it seems that this school has been producing some incredible students. i think it is amazing that they have 25 seniors with all "A"s, especially if they are laden with AP and college-level courses. That is how they earn above 4.0

rather than make fun of this school as if they were giving trophies out to everyone who participated I think that we should be celebrating a program that is capable of producing such high performers, especially in an age when so many schools are struggling to maintain accreditation.

just sayin'
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Gee, maybe we should have 30-40 CEOs per company, or, how about a couple dozen POTUS's...wouldn't want to hurt any of the other candiates wittle FEELINGS! redface
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Sounds fine to me. Businesses should be run as democracies rather than dictatorships. That would make working for a living less dehumanizing.
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At least their school is going off grades first and foremost. Mine went off of 1) Money 2) Popularity 3) Then Grades.
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I saw this same exact thing happen with my nieces and nephew. They were in a High School in the outskirts of Tampa area. This was supposed to be one of the best schools around. I kid you not, but the graduations, I would say half the class was shown as having a 4.0 (including my relatives).

Guess what...

inflated scores by dumbing down the entire class. NONE OF THE 3 COULD HACK IT IN A PUBLIC COLLEGE AND ALL DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And they were not the only ones from that school.



They are doing these kids no favors, just hurting them.
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THIS is RIDICULOUS !!! What a slap in the face to all the kids in other schools who work their butts off to get good grades.
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What gives you the impression that these kids didn't work their butts off to get good grades? Did you read the article?

The valedictorian policy is beyond stupid but don't take anything away from the students that earned their grades.
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Please refer to my post above
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What I really feel sorry for is the audience at the graduation ceremony. Having to sit through 25 valedictorians speeches will be torture. tomato
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Its OK if the kids really are that well educated. I would like to know their SAT scores. If they are that high too, then we need to adopt their teaching methods. I read that they use on-line courses.... 24 college level classes.

I hope they always let every child who graduates at the top be the Valedictorian! It does not matter if 100 kids worked just as hard... It is very hard work and takes real dedication to reach such a high level of excellence. They all deserve their day to shine!

I also think that every last one of them should be allowed to speak. Just limit the time.
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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let me guess...you rode the pine at any sports you played, and you're on benefits.
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When I went to high school, we were on a 4.0 system. So if you spent your time in the "bunny" English/Math/Sciences and got an A it counted as much as someone in an honors or Advanced Placement AP college prep course and got an A.

Our high school had two valedictorians with 4.0s, and I was salutitorian with a 3.98 (I had an A- in AP US history and A- in AP Calculus). The valecdictorians had never taken an honors or AP class. They both have gone on to proudly do nothing with their lives.

I graduated high school with 15 college credits which basically meant I was starting college as a 2nd year student.

I actually like the idea of a 5.0 system for students who take REAL courses like AP Calculus instead of basic math in high school. If 25 of those students all took AP classes and got As, then by all means, give them the honor of being 1st in their class.
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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Do a little research O.P. As schools get larger the statistical chance that more students will have the same GPA and same amount of volunteer and extra-curricular hours goes up. As these are the factors that determine a valedictorian it is inevitable that there will be more and more of them. It is math, not a conspiracy. My graduating class was almost 1500 we had 40-something valedictorians back in 2004.

As for a 5.0 GPA it is because of weighted grading systems. Schools with A.P. and gifted programs usually weight advanced classes higher than non advanced classes. Therefore if you are a straight A student taking all advanced classes it is possible to do better than a 4.0, because you have done more work than someone whose maximum is a 4.0.

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I saw this same exact thing happen with my nieces and nephew. They were in a High School in the outskirts of Tampa area. This was supposed to be one of the best schools around. I kid you not, but the graduations, I would say half the class was shown as having a 4.0 (including my relatives).

Guess what...

inflated scores by dumbing down the entire class. NONE OF THE 3 COULD HACK IT IN A PUBLIC COLLEGE AND ALL DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And they were not the only ones from that school.



They are doing these kids no favors, just hurting them.
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Tampa high schools are a fucking joke.
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2917913


Gee, maybe we should have 30-40 CEOs per company, or, how about a couple dozen POTUS's...wouldn't want to hurt any of the other candiates wittle FEELINGS! redface
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Sounds fine to me. Businesses should be run as democracies rather than dictatorships. That would make working for a living less dehumanizing.
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And would bankrupt the business + would be tyranny by via mob rule. Not to mention create an atmosphere were nobody would really do any work because there wouldn't be any incentive to do so.

Democracy is a sick and vile thing. No better than Fascism, Communism or National Socialism. The end results are veritably the same.
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Life isn't a game with winners and losers. There's enough resources for everyone if we learn to share. Sports are stupid anyway so why shouldn't everyone get a medal? Grades don't really mean shit so why have them at all?
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You're joking. You can't be serious.
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Good we dont need the school picking winners and losers.


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Do a little research O.P. As schools get larger the statistical chance that more students will have the same GPA and same amount of volunteer and extra-curricular hours goes up. As these are the factors that determine a valedictorian it is inevitable that there will be more and more of them. It is math, not a conspiracy. My graduating class was almost 1500 we had 40-something valedictorians back in 2004.

As for a 5.0 GPA it is because of weighted grading systems. Schools with A.P. and gifted programs usually weight advanced classes higher than non advanced classes. Therefore if you are a straight A student taking all advanced classes it is possible to do better than a 4.0, because you have done more work than someone whose maximum is a 4.0.

Cheers,

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Yes, and that is a joke. That system makes the title "valedictorian" irrelevant. What's the point in working hard when everybody's a winner? That is beyond stupid. I'd be willing to bet that every single one of those 40 and the 25 are academically inferior by FAR than a valedictorian of 20 years or more ago.





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