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What happens when the GENERALS start contradicting the administration? Does that make them....LIBTARDS? TRAITORS? GAY?

 
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What happens when the GENERALS start contradicting the administration? Does that make them....LIBTARDS? TRAITORS? GAY?
Lifted from the Washington Post today (and please keep telling us what a liberal rag it is...it´s more liberal than moveon.org, right???)

Awaiting the idiotic and predictible responses from Bushies in Denial:

WASHINGTON -- The nation´s top military man, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, said American troops in Iraq have a duty to intercede and stop abuse of prisoners by Iraqi security personnel.

When Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld contradicted Pace, the general stood firm.

Rumsfeld told the general he believed Pace meant to say the U.S. soldiers had to report the abuse, not stop it.

Pace stuck to his original statement.

"If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it," Pace told his civilian boss.

The unusual exchange occurred during a discussion at a news conference about the relationship between U.S. forces in Iraq and an Iraqi government considered sovereign by the United States.

A questioner asked whether the United States and its allies might be deemed responsible for preventing mistreatment of people under arrest in Iraq, given that the U.S. and its allies train Iraqi forces.

"There are a lot of people involved in this, dozens of countries trying to help train these Iraqi forces. Any instance of inhumane behavior is obviously worrisome and harmful to them when that occurs," Rumsfeld said. "Iraq knows, of certain knowledge, that they need the support of the international community. And a good way to lose it is to make a practice of something that is inconsistent with the values of the international community."

He added: "Now, you know, I can´t go any further in talking about it. Obviously, the United States does not have a responsibility when a sovereign country engages in something that they disapprove of."

Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was asked what orders the troops have to handle such incidents. He responded: "It is absolutely the responsibility of every U.S. service member if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene, to stop it."

He said soldiers who hear of but don´t see an incident should deal with it through superiors of the offending Iraqis.

That´s when Rumsfeld stepped to the microphone and said, "I don´t think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it. It´s to report it."

Pace then repeated to Rumsfeld that intervening when witnessing abuse is the order the troops must follow, not just reporting it.
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"We will fight the terrorists in Iraq. We will stay in the fight until we have achieved the victory that our brave troops have fought for," Bush told thousands of American troops spilling out of a cold hangar at this U.S. military installation 40 miles south of Seoul. "The defense of freedom is worth our sacrifice.
And as long as I am commander in chief, our strategy in Iraq will be driven by the sober judgment of our military commanders on the ground," the president said.

In his remarks, Bush said that a senior commander in Iraq, Maj. Gen. William Webster, had said that setting a deadline for withdrawal would be "a recipe for disaster."

"Here on the ground, our job is not done," said Col. James Brown, commander of the 56th Brigade Combat Team, when asked about Murthaīs comments during a weekly briefing that American field commanders give to Pentagon reporters.
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The īterroristsī have won.

Proof: Patriot Act I. Patriot Act II

Slogan 1: Weīll take away your rights to protect you to keep shopping.

Slogan 2: Be vigilant (whatever that means). I think it implies spying on your neighbour or mis-trusting anyone wearing a backpack and jumping someone reaching in their shirt pocket to pull out a cigar.

Near future: A mere thought or word of dissent to govīt will make you a terrorist. Patriot one moment...terrorist the next. Ah, the power of labelling!
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11/30/2005 06:16 PM
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Why doesnīt anyone care that Most of the Soldiers would rather be at home with their families?

And that Over 80% of the Iraqis want the US to leave?

It seems like the only ones who want them there are this administration.

Well, People are dying.

Good People.

Peace.
David.
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Yea Exactly! and then what are they going to do throw themselves in Abugarab and torture they selves???
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lol... gay
28 days... 6 hours... 42 minutes... 12 seconds. That... is when the world... will end
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General Bumpity, reporting for service...
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General Bumpity, reporting for service...
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"We will stay in the fight until we have achieved the victory that our brave troops have fought for," Bush told thousands of American troops spilling out of a cold hangar at this U.S. military installation 40 miles south of Seoul. "The defense of freedom is worth our sacrifice."

Wait! I thought it was "Mission Accomplished"! That means victory achieved to me.

I bet those soldiers loved every minute of giving up their free time to go stand in the cold and listen to that dipshit blather.
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"The defense of freedom is worth our sacrifice."


He hopes the Great Owl at the Grove is happy with the blood sacrifice he has made to it.
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BRAVO GENERAL PACE ! applause

Why should the grunts take the fall for their higher-ups lack of morality..?
Intervening when witnessing abuse is the only right thing to do...
then maybe they can begin to resuscitate what shred of dignity is left of the reputation of the United States armed forces....
<<< !! VIVE LA RESISTANCE !! >>>
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OUR SACRIFICE? OUR SACRIFICE?

Dumbya, do you consider that when you sacrifice the lives of over 100,000 Iraqis and over 2000 US military personnel it gives you the right to say "our"?

You, Dumbya, have sacrificed nothing so far, but in the end you will see that you have sacrificed everything and it was all for naught.
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when will u phucktard demos or repubs learn the american people dont give a poop! whats goin on in iraq. And for the most part any wrong doing in iraq on our part ,americans would chose to save face then admit wrong on our part be4 the world.

WAKE UP GLPS!! we are the phucking minority. Greater america dont give a shit as long as the fuel keeps coming in.

damned
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Anything good on TV tonight?
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Bump for the 10:10 erīs





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