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How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper? - An Eye Opening Preview

 
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Nice thread op .. a lot of common sense to us, but things no one wants to hear ..

One thing I have done .. banded together with neighbors .. luckily I found people with similar thoughts as mine .. together we will have our own protected community .. or hope too .. if we can stay .. I live in the woods but only two towns smacked between two cities .. one that will be the biggest threat ..

Another thing .. we sub pump water out of our celler .. hundreds if not thousands of gallons a day .. when I poured my new cellar, I ran pipes up with spout .. unless the ground water is ruined, we will have plenty to share
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What is horrific is the fate of the prepper who is discovered by the hoards of nonpreppers.
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But several well armed, well prepared, well entrenched preppers (especially vets) can hold off a LOT of would-be plunderers.
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Most police officers, active and retired military and hard core as well as petty criminals are not preppers. They will be looking to survive. Hope you prepped enough for them too. Even the "good" people will be out to take you stuff. Maybe you should prep to not be found mate. It is a lot better to avoid a problem that to shoot it out, although I know that some fools think they are looking forward to The Alamo Part II.
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SO WE GOT THE PEOPLE WHO THINK PREPPING IS A GOOD IDEA, and aren't really talking about it

or the people that kinda think it's a ideal that needs to be discussed, but won't get around to it

then there is the people that spend all their time coming up with fantasic reason not to prep


remember he who has the guns, gold and food rules
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As you might have deduced, I was not born in Mongolia.

But I am a nomad, and I have "gotten around to it."

Peace
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Survival requires smarts, good instincts, and an ability to improvise. No matter how well prepared an individual or community is food will run out, sources of clean water will run out, ammunition will run out, and you won't be able to hold off the rest of the world forever. The best prep is to prepare your head and your heart. Nothing else will get you through.
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How many will be feasting on dead bodies?

They say babies are especially tender and tasty.

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How many will be feasting on dead bodies?

They say babies are especially tender and tasty.

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Who is "They"? Is that your church group?
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What is horrific is the fate of the prepper who is discovered by the hoards of nonpreppers.
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So true. Ya can't stay awake and on guard 24 hr a day.
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Will be horrific even for the prepper. The non prepper? Bend over and kiss the butt goodbye. On the upside though, the non prepper will have a faster demise than the prepper if the entire planet goes -- but I anticipate it to be more regional than global.
Fate whispers to the warrior

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Most preppers have sense enough to band together with friends and will have someone up all night standing guard.

I moved out of the suburbs 8 months ago, knowing what is coming. Most suburban property will loose 20-70% of it's value. Like the Vekol Ranch some property will be abandonded.
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About the screams and the stench, earplugs and air freshener, will they do?

I take it there still will be curbside pickup of all those "waste disposal plastic bags"?

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About the screams and the stench, earplugs and air freshener, will they do?

I take it there still will be curbside pickup of all those "waste disposal plastic bags"?

lolsign
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you will eat moosey, I assume....
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It's feels good to know that me and my house will be provided for . How long do you think those preps will last you ? Id say you still worry even with the preps you have .

Scripture: Matthew 6:24-34

24 "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. 25 "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink, nor about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 And which of you by being anxious can add one cubit to his span of life? 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin; 29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O men of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, `What shall we eat?' or `What shall we drink?' or `What shall we wear?' 32 For the Gentiles seek all these things; and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as well. 34 "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Let the day's own trouble be sufficient for the day.
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Survival requires smarts, good instincts, and an ability to improvise. No matter how well prepared an individual or community is food will run out, sources of clean water will run out, ammunition will run out, and you won't be able to hold off the rest of the world forever. The best prep is to prepare your head and your heart. Nothing else will get you through.
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^^^this
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The simple lack of 'feminine hygiene products' is going to be disturbing, to say the least! redface
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About those plastic waste disposal bags. If they sit for any length of time, one of two things will happen.

Critters will tear them open, that's if there might be edibles in them. Don't forget, dogs are particularly fond of human feces, anyone who's had an outhouse and an unchained mutt around will know this. Other waste, all kinds of other critters on this planet who've figured out how to tear plastic, birds, squirrels, and other rodents.

Otherwise if the bag doesn't get torn open, and sits where it's going to be warm, well stuff happens with organics where the gasses will build and build and build until 'blam' the bag will explode like when you blow up a cheap balloon with too much air, and the contents will splatter everywhere.

Forget the plastic bags, and try to find out how to compost instead. Well unless you really do plan on not being able to dial 911 but still having garbage day pickup. ;)
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And yes, Moose, the Native 'Canadian Tire' hf
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What scenario are we going with were the entire world has no food and everyone is attack each other?
lol.
Because if its "end of the world", you'll end up like everyone else "eventually"...
And why are non-preppers not able to defend themselves?
That's just retarded.
Have fun wasting your cash.
You believe you'll have the last laugh, but you have no idea.
XD
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Exactly this.Many havent prepped because they will take form ones that have.Oh I know all these big bad armed preppers can handle it.All it takes is on small gang and you will be history,probably dead.Home invasion shows how easy it is to over power people.You can have all the guns in the world but you cant use them all at once and the ones coming will be armed too.Probably just sneak around and burn you out.
Preppers are just a big ass target.
I prepare like I would in case of an emergency or storm,etc.The government will take most of it anyway if times get that bad and redistribute it.
A total waste of time and funds for the most part.
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The simple lack of 'feminine hygiene products' is going to be disturbing, to say the least! redface
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disturbed me just reading about it
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What scenario are we going with were the entire world has no food and everyone is attack each other?
lol.
Because if its "end of the world", you'll end up like everyone else "eventually"...
And why are non-preppers not able to defend themselves?
That's just retarded.
Have fun wasting your cash.
You believe you'll have the last laugh, but you have no idea.
XD
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Exactly this.Many havent prepped because they will take form ones that have.Oh I know all these big bad armed preppers can handle it.All it takes is on small gang and you will be history,probably dead.Home invasion shows how easy it is to over power people.You can have all the guns in the world but you cant use them all at once and the ones coming will be armed too.Probably just sneak around and burn you out.
Preppers are just a big ass target.
I prepare like I would in case of an emergency or storm,etc.The government will take most of it anyway if times get that bad and redistribute it.
A total waste of time and funds for the most part.
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City-dweller! yeahsure
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I follow the 'daily layoffs/plant closings and lately I'm seeing a lot of food manufacturing plants closing. This coupled with 'farm price supports' being among the cuts next January. The perfect storm is on the horizon yet many do not see it.....
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Even the prepper will eventually run out of things.
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exactly. the solution is not to be a prepper, but to see whre God leads u
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I think tons of people will die within 30 days.
Think about everyone who is on both legal and illegal drugs. People who have cancers, heart disease, pychological problems, kids with autism, people who need oxygen, pills to stay alive etc etc etc. Everyone I know is on a ton of pills, goes to the hospital for emergencies like children's ear infections, asthma. Humanity's natural immune systems are shot due to over vaccanations, anti-biotics, chlorine bleach over used etc. I'm not saying that stuff in itself is bad, but how many people have been over using the stuff, replacing it with nature's way of healing our own bodies.
Not to mention 1/2 the country is over weight and hooked on loads of sugar and carbs. I had to get rid of the high intake of carbs and sugar in MY diet, and it took months to feel any sense of normalcy. I was emotional, depressed, felt sick like the flu, couldn't function, couldn't THINK straight. i still have cravings for sugar but put just some of those problems on a person, not to mention they can't get their medicane, they don't have food or water to sustain them.
There will be crazy people running around, shooting each other, strangling and throwing people into human bomb fires to get at each other's belongings. No man or animal will be safe. You better have hands guns and lots of bullets.
The first week people will stay in their homes, afraid and living off their weekly grocieries. But the second week, buildings will burn, people will start to be raped and murdered, and gangs will form.
Third week anyone who was going to get out of the city better have left. Stores will have been ransaked, medicanes in pharmacies will be gone, people who haven't died from their disease and lack of medical care who have no stores will start dieing or being murdered by gans.

Shoot, have you ever waited in line at a grocery store or at a fast food rest. ? People are MEAN when they don't get what they want. People would rather run you down on the highway then get over to let you on the entrance....People are not good at heart, they are evil (as the bible says)it is the thin invisable haze of Godly people and obedience to societies rules that makes life on this earth NOT a hell on earth.
By the 4th week, lines will be drawn. There will be small settlements (Jericho like) of church people who have prepared. These are the smart church people who believe in protecting their own with guns, the Amish will be sheep to the slaughter though.

By the second month, rotting corpses will litter the streets the ransacked buildings. There won't be a lot of rape or murder at this point, because your sickies and fatties will be dead or killed, your old people and children will be dead because only the strong survive and without medicane, hospitals, doctors what has been keeping the weaklings alive will be long long gone, medcanes will have run out. Most people don't have more then a month of their life saving medicane in storage to keep them alive. Diabetics will be dead due to SHOCK to their systems, no insulin etc.

Third month, you have survived. You have food storage, you have medicane, maybe some of your family has died due to the above description, but YOU must stay alive to keep the rest strong and alive.
I still don't think it will be safe to start ransacking homes. There will still be wild animals (human and not) running around, with guns, going from meal to meal struggling for life. Hopefully YOU have at least 6 months of food and stored water to stay in your home that long.

At six months gangs will still exist, but many of them will have killed each other. Many homes, stores and warehouses will have been ransacked BUT, if your food stores are running out, I believe you might risk going to neighbors homes and start looking (loaded down with guns of course). Things like batteries, flashlights, ammo, guns of the dead are going to be important. You better have a wood burner because winter is either here or around the corner again. You should be always cutting wood, maybe find some wood to steal from dead people.
Finding food stores will be the most important, and seeds for gardening. Maybe you can find some farming tools, tractor of a farmer who for some reason didn't survive. Heck, I might move to a farm with my family, if I could get them to it.

A lot depends on if you have gas to move from place to place, we have trucks to load down stuff in, but you will need something else if you don't have gas or means of transportation. (emp bomb). If you don't have electricity, how you cook your food is going to matter. Cooking it outside on the grill is going to alert any living animal or human within a mile of you.

So much to think about. I have watched quite a few end of the days type movies. I can actually see something like it happening due to emp bombs, spread of plague, or a nuke. The collapse of the dollar or our government....will just be a short hiccup, there will be riots, deaths due to idiots fighting our police and army and then a new government or dollar will rise from the ashes, (a few thousand may have died), and then the anti-Christ like figue will join the world in a one world government.

Regardless, you need at least 6 months of food for those whom you love, children, family, extended family, neighbors and your pets. Just do it, it doesn't cost that much. Stfu and do it. Rice and tomato juice will keep you alive for a long time, grow some tomato plants and learn to can the easiest veggie on the planet. Rice you can get in 10 lb bags. Dehydrate some veggies for flavoring, buy some beans and some flour, learn how to make a stew, bake your own bread, and just stfu and do it. It's not hard. The hard part is water. You gotta figure that out on your own.
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watch out for people you know that have drug habbits
best not to even let them get close because they are already screwed to begin with. I see hordes out by the methadone clinic mostly oxy junkies
imagine them when they got no drugs. alot of people I know outside of immediate family have gone full crack junkie. If any of them came near in a shtf scenario I would stick a knife in their throat or a bullet in their head first chance I got.
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Even the prepper will eventually run out of things.
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exactly. the solution is not to be a prepper, but to see whre God leads u
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NOAH! The O.G. prepper...hf

If Noah believed as you do, he would have just kicked back on his hammock and let God take care of the preps!
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watch out for people you know that have drug habbits
best not to even let them get close because they are already screwed to begin with. I see hordes out by the methadone clinic mostly oxy junkies
imagine them when they got no drugs. alot of people I know outside of immediate family have gone full crack junkie. If any of them came near in a shtf scenario I would stick a knife in their throat or a bullet in their head first chance I got.
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How about all the 'Insulin Dependent Diabetics'...insulin requires refrigeration!

Comas, comas, everywhere! damned
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Even the prepper will eventually run out of things.
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exactly. the solution is not to be a prepper, but to see whre God leads u
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NOAH! The O.G. prepper...hf

If Noah believed as you do, he would have just kicked back on his hammock and let God take care of the preps!
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Noah was Commanded to build an ark , we do not need to .
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ps, the above post is posted from a 53 year old type 2 diabetic who has been prepping for over 6 years. It took two years to get my husband on board. My adult children still look at me funny, but they know where their meals will be if needed. I have bought pre prepper food in the cans, I buy bags of rice, I have both wheat berries for milling and flour for immediate use to make bread.

I have started a small orchard on my property with fruit, very small, but I only have an acre. I have gotten my husband helping. He dug a food pantry in our basement, took the dirt out bucket by bucket with my teenage son, we now have a 20 by 8 food pantry jammed back of food with paper supplies. I buy little propane jugs for the propane cooker to use if we have no gas or electricity. We have bought iron pans to cook food outside in a pit. We were all in the scouts for years, so we know how to survive outside if need be. My garden started with a 15 x 15 foot patch, and it has grown into about a 40x50 foot patch. I grow herbs, and veggies.

I dehydrate my veggies, and get frozen veggies on sale and dehyrate them. jars of dehydrated foods in my basement. I buy beans everytime I go to the store. I buy nothing unless it is on sale of course.

My FIL is a gun collector, he has a reloader and supplies, between him and my husband they own over 200 guns.
He lives on a lake, fishing tackle is a must.

The only thing that will get me, is my thyroid. I don't have it anymore, and my pills will be gone in a month. I asked my doctor what will happen to me. He said that I would gain a lot of weight, become incredibly lethargic and eventually die from a heart attack. But he said I would have two years.

Those two years, I will spend setting up my surviving children and relatives for the future. helping as much as I can with the gardens, food hunting, gaurding the house with the guns etc. In the long run I won't survive, and if civilization doesn't come back, I'll be old anyways (possible 60's) so I don't mind. But I will spend every once of my life helping my beloved survive. And I'm not waiting for it to happen then, I'm preparing now.
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Because most preppers are indeed waiting for
the Alamo part II, they have created plots to support their justifications. Do you notice that these people have different visions as to what they need and what they should prepare for, but all, but a few, guns and planed self defense, murder, in mind, if they say, they were to be confronted. These people have visions. Man, they want something to happen bad, that's their dream.
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Even the prepper will eventually run out of things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14998685

exactly. the solution is not to be a prepper, but to see whre God leads u
 Quoting: Russian guy 609919


NOAH! The O.G. prepper...hf

If Noah believed as you do, he would have just kicked back on his hammock and let God take care of the preps!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15982996


Noah was Commanded to build an ark , we do not need to .
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Might want to read the '10 Virgin Parable', again! If the 'end times' involve the 'mark of the Beast', and ALL 'buying and selling' will require taking it, well, you know how that ends up...

Matthew 25

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
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I'm preparing spiritually. I plan on having fun in this "chaos", maybe save a few lives, arm people with spiritual knowledge, etc. If I get taken out at some point, no biggie. My spirit will wake up somewhere else. What I won't do is live in fear or relegate myself to that of a "dog eat dog" survivalist. That's what the PTB do, not me. Death before dishonor, always.





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