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How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper? - An Eye Opening Preview

 
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If/when shtf, ya'll need to leave the cities asap. Even if its with nothing in tow. They'll be masses of people who'll stay in the city. That'll be one fucked-up situation, sad sites.
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Bull Shit, we have back ups, Gardens, Rabbits, wells, etc... etc...
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that goes for you schoolteachers too
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If/when shtf, ya'll need to leave the cities asap. Even if its with nothing in tow. They'll be masses of people who'll stay in the city. That'll be one fucked-up situation, sad sites.
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You won't even know, which means it's too late. Trust me...
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Because most preppers are indeed waiting for
the Alamo part II, they have created plots to support their justifications. Do you notice that these people have different visions as to what they need and what they should prepare for, but all, but a few, guns and planed self defense, murder, in mind, if they say, they were to be confronted. These people have visions. Man, they want something to happen bad, that's their dream.
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plant. you are a disinfo agent.
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ps, the above post is posted from a 53 year old type 2 diabetic who has been prepping for over 6 years. It took two years to get my husband on board. My adult children still look at me funny, but they know where their meals will be if needed. I have bought pre prepper food in the cans, I buy bags of rice, I have both wheat berries for milling and flour for immediate use to make bread.

I have started a small orchard on my property with fruit, very small, but I only have an acre. I have gotten my husband helping. He dug a food pantry in our basement, took the dirt out bucket by bucket with my teenage son, we now have a 20 by 8 food pantry jammed back of food with paper supplies. I buy little propane jugs for the propane cooker to use if we have no gas or electricity. We have bought iron pans to cook food outside in a pit. We were all in the scouts for years, so we know how to survive outside if need be. My garden started with a 15 x 15 foot patch, and it has grown into about a 40x50 foot patch. I grow herbs, and veggies.

I dehydrate my veggies, and get frozen veggies on sale and dehyrate them. jars of dehydrated foods in my basement. I buy beans everytime I go to the store. I buy nothing unless it is on sale of course.

My FIL is a gun collector, he has a reloader and supplies, between him and my husband they own over 200 guns.
He lives on a lake, fishing tackle is a must.

The only thing that will get me, is my thyroid. I don't have it anymore, and my pills will be gone in a month. I asked my doctor what will happen to me. He said that I would gain a lot of weight, become incredibly lethargic and eventually die from a heart attack. But he said I would have two years.

Those two years, I will spend setting up my surviving children and relatives for the future. helping as much as I can with the gardens, food hunting, gaurding the house with the guns etc. In the long run I won't survive, and if civilization doesn't come back, I'll be old anyways (possible 60's) so I don't mind. But I will spend every once of my life helping my beloved survive. And I'm not waiting for it to happen then, I'm preparing now.
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I appreciate your post. You sound like a wonderful person, wife, and mother!! I just wanted to tell you that I too do not have a thyroid at all, and am also dependant on my medicine. My doc, however, gave me a years supply. I am planning on going to another doc to get another prescription asap so that I can have as much as possible. I take the organic type as it works better on me than the synthetic, but I heard that there is a way to take the thyroid out of a pig and use it (pig is what the organic is made from). I have to look into it, but just wanted to give you some hope and an avenue to look at. All Blessings to you and yours!!!
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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When the shit hits the fan, you want to avoid the country, the mountains, the rivers, the deserts, the plains, the forests, the caves, and the cities.

That's right. You want to live on the moon.

Then you can be a lunatic survivor!
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People IN Canada going Hungry, Starving for Nutrition. Coming to America soon!

[link to www.montrealgazette.com]

Canadian F
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What this article neglects to mention is that it may be a scenario the preppers didn't prep for that happens.
What if an asteroid hits and wipes out all of your prepped stock?
Or an ice age comes and freezes everything?
How about all the criminals who know you stocked up and want to take what you have?
Eventually you will be out of stock then what?
I'm not saying prepping isn't a good idea but you cannot prep for everything that could go wrong.
Considering the government has already passed the bill to confiscate your stock how long do you think you'll be able to keep it?
Personally I hope that whatever happens hits us so quick that we never felt it coming.
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You make a very good point. When I first started doing my "inner-prepping" (Mostly Sedona Method) I did purchase some extra food, but as I continued working on my mind as the source of all my fears, my courage level went up and I came more into the Now, into present time, dropped some delusions, such as the ones you mention.

I'm not out of the woods altogether, but I see that the best way to prep is to be in the now moment to moment; close the gap as much as possible between your self identity and who you really are as a spiritual being -- who just happens to have a body to play a game with.
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ps, the above post is posted from a 53 year old type 2 diabetic who has been prepping for over 6 years. It took two years to get my husband on board. My adult children still look at me funny, but they know where their meals will be if needed. I have bought pre prepper food in the cans, I buy bags of rice, I have both wheat berries for milling and flour for immediate use to make bread.

I have started a small orchard on my property with fruit, very small, but I only have an acre. I have gotten my husband helping. He dug a food pantry in our basement, took the dirt out bucket by bucket with my teenage son, we now have a 20 by 8 food pantry jammed back of food with paper supplies. I buy little propane jugs for the propane cooker to use if we have no gas or electricity. We have bought iron pans to cook food outside in a pit. We were all in the scouts for years, so we know how to survive outside if need be. My garden started with a 15 x 15 foot patch, and it has grown into about a 40x50 foot patch. I grow herbs, and veggies.

I dehydrate my veggies, and get frozen veggies on sale and dehyrate them. jars of dehydrated foods in my basement. I buy beans everytime I go to the store. I buy nothing unless it is on sale of course.

My FIL is a gun collector, he has a reloader and supplies, between him and my husband they own over 200 guns.
He lives on a lake, fishing tackle is a must.

The only thing that will get me, is my thyroid. I don't have it anymore, and my pills will be gone in a month. I asked my doctor what will happen to me. He said that I would gain a lot of weight, become incredibly lethargic and eventually die from a heart attack. But he said I would have two years.

Those two years, I will spend setting up my surviving children and relatives for the future. helping as much as I can with the gardens, food hunting, gaurding the house with the guns etc. In the long run I won't survive, and if civilization doesn't come back, I'll be old anyways (possible 60's) so I don't mind. But I will spend every once of my life helping my beloved survive. And I'm not waiting for it to happen then, I'm preparing now.
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I appreciate your post. You sound like a wonderful person, wife, and mother!! I just wanted to tell you that I too do not have a thyroid at all, and am also dependant on my medicine. My doc, however, gave me a years supply. I am planning on going to another doc to get another prescription asap so that I can have as much as possible. I take the organic type as it works better on me than the synthetic, but I heard that there is a way to take the thyroid out of a pig and use it (pig is what the organic is made from). I have to look into it, but just wanted to give you some hope and an avenue to look at. All Blessings to you and yours!!!
 Quoting: Vesper33


I too am minus a thyroid and keep the body going with "T-100" from New Zealand. Better for me than Synthroid. It's made from either cows or sheep, I forget. I also take my temperature upon awakening.

The other very important thing when one knows they have a possible shortened lifespan is to find some spiritual direction so that at least when their body does croak they will go without any negativity, at the highest level of peace they can attain to.

For me, it is confessionals, sedona method, and learning from some spiritual masters. Find the ones who resonate for you. Do the inner work. It's all on the internet for download.

Cheer up, the world is yours, and you just need to know that.
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LOL, some of the things on this list crack me up... is that wrong?

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ps, the above post is posted from a 53 year old type 2 diabetic who has been prepping for over 6 years. It took two years to get my husband on board. My adult children still look at me funny, but they know where their meals will be if needed. I have bought pre prepper food in the cans, I buy bags of rice, I have both wheat berries for milling and flour for immediate use to make bread.

I have started a small orchard on my property with fruit, very small, but I only have an acre. I have gotten my husband helping. He dug a food pantry in our basement, took the dirt out bucket by bucket with my teenage son, we now have a 20 by 8 food pantry jammed back of food with paper supplies. I buy little propane jugs for the propane cooker to use if we have no gas or electricity. We have bought iron pans to cook food outside in a pit. We were all in the scouts for years, so we know how to survive outside if need be. My garden started with a 15 x 15 foot patch, and it has grown into about a 40x50 foot patch. I grow herbs, and veggies.

I dehydrate my veggies, and get frozen veggies on sale and dehyrate them. jars of dehydrated foods in my basement. I buy beans everytime I go to the store. I buy nothing unless it is on sale of course.

My FIL is a gun collector, he has a reloader and supplies, between him and my husband they own over 200 guns.
He lives on a lake, fishing tackle is a must.

The only thing that will get me, is my thyroid. I don't have it anymore, and my pills will be gone in a month. I asked my doctor what will happen to me. He said that I would gain a lot of weight, become incredibly lethargic and eventually die from a heart attack. But he said I would have two years.

Those two years, I will spend setting up my surviving children and relatives for the future. helping as much as I can with the gardens, food hunting, gaurding the house with the guns etc. In the long run I won't survive, and if civilization doesn't come back, I'll be old anyways (possible 60's) so I don't mind. But I will spend every once of my life helping my beloved survive. And I'm not waiting for it to happen then, I'm preparing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290518


I appreciate your post. You sound like a wonderful person, wife, and mother!! I just wanted to tell you that I too do not have a thyroid at all, and am also dependant on my medicine. My doc, however, gave me a years supply. I am planning on going to another doc to get another prescription asap so that I can have as much as possible. I take the organic type as it works better on me than the synthetic, but I heard that there is a way to take the thyroid out of a pig and use it (pig is what the organic is made from). I have to look into it, but just wanted to give you some hope and an avenue to look at. All Blessings to you and yours!!!
 Quoting: Vesper33


I too am minus a thyroid and keep the body going with "T-100" from New Zealand. Better for me than Synthroid. It's made from either cows or sheep, I forget. I also take my temperature upon awakening.

The other very important thing when one knows they have a possible shortened lifespan is to find some spiritual direction so that at least when their body does croak they will go without any negativity, at the highest level of peace they can attain to.

For me, it is confessionals, sedona method, and learning from some spiritual masters. Find the ones who resonate for you. Do the inner work. It's all on the internet for download.

Cheer up, the world is yours, and you just need to know that.
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I have the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior. Have since i was five and he spoke to me in my mind. Have needed him, leaned on him, and struggled with him my whole life. I am blessed. This is not my home, I know that, this is not 'it', this is just the beginning. I look forward to what God has in store for the next life after death. Thanks and blessings to all.
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Thinking about surviving in the wilderness and at a future point attempting to rejoin a redeveloping "civilisation" ... It could turn into a scenario of epic proportion: Sasquatch!

Another good thing to have in your preps: A Storyteller. One who can recount ancient history; recite the names of the founding troupe members and lineages; and retell tales of daring-do, valour, heroism, love, respect, and honor.

Oh! If anyone ever sees an old blinded hag, muttering to an herself, hobbling along your country road, please don't shoot. It might just be Lilly and me.

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ps, the above post is posted from a 53 year old type 2 diabetic who has been prepping for over 6 years. It took two years to get my husband on board. My adult children still look at me funny, but they know where their meals will be if needed. I have bought pre prepper food in the cans, I buy bags of rice, I have both wheat berries for milling and flour for immediate use to make bread.

I have started a small orchard on my property with fruit, very small, but I only have an acre. I have gotten my husband helping. He dug a food pantry in our basement, took the dirt out bucket by bucket with my teenage son, we now have a 20 by 8 food pantry jammed back of food with paper supplies. I buy little propane jugs for the propane cooker to use if we have no gas or electricity. We have bought iron pans to cook food outside in a pit. We were all in the scouts for years, so we know how to survive outside if need be. My garden started with a 15 x 15 foot patch, and it has grown into about a 40x50 foot patch. I grow herbs, and veggies.

I dehydrate my veggies, and get frozen veggies on sale and dehyrate them. jars of dehydrated foods in my basement. I buy beans everytime I go to the store. I buy nothing unless it is on sale of course.

My FIL is a gun collector, he has a reloader and supplies, between him and my husband they own over 200 guns.
He lives on a lake, fishing tackle is a must.

The only thing that will get me, is my thyroid. I don't have it anymore, and my pills will be gone in a month. I asked my doctor what will happen to me. He said that I would gain a lot of weight, become incredibly lethargic and eventually die from a heart attack. But he said I would have two years.

Those two years, I will spend setting up my surviving children and relatives for the future. helping as much as I can with the gardens, food hunting, gaurding the house with the guns etc. In the long run I won't survive, and if civilization doesn't come back, I'll be old anyways (possible 60's) so I don't mind. But I will spend every once of my life helping my beloved survive. And I'm not waiting for it to happen then, I'm preparing now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290518


I appreciate your post. You sound like a wonderful person, wife, and mother!! I just wanted to tell you that I too do not have a thyroid at all, and am also dependant on my medicine. My doc, however, gave me a years supply. I am planning on going to another doc to get another prescription asap so that I can have as much as possible. I take the organic type as it works better on me than the synthetic, but I heard that there is a way to take the thyroid out of a pig and use it (pig is what the organic is made from). I have to look into it, but just wanted to give you some hope and an avenue to look at. All Blessings to you and yours!!!
 Quoting: Vesper33


I too am minus a thyroid and keep the body going with "T-100" from New Zealand. Better for me than Synthroid. It's made from either cows or sheep, I forget. I also take my temperature upon awakening.

The other very important thing when one knows they have a possible shortened lifespan is to find some spiritual direction so that at least when their body does croak they will go without any negativity, at the highest level of peace they can attain to.

For me, it is confessionals, sedona method, and learning from some spiritual masters. Find the ones who resonate for you. Do the inner work. It's all on the internet for download.

Cheer up, the world is yours, and you just need to know that.
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Can we get the T-100 in the States by way of the Internet or do we need a Doc's prescription?

When I take my temp I am always the temp of a several hour gone corpse. I joke with my family if I ever die alone they will not be able to call the time accurately. Lol. It has gotten some better, last I checked a couple days ago I got all the way up to 97.6. Lol

I will look into the Sedona method you mentioned. Thanks!
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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[link to www.shtfplan.com]

This is the best article I have ever read about the importance of prepping that could be forwarded on to those who need a good wakeup call. I urge you to read the whole article and send it to those you think it might help. I did. Did even one of you get more serious after reading this?

(Less than 50% rule followed)

What horrors they will likely face after a cave-in of their nation’s economy, war, geophysical upheaval, or whatever crisis is bad enough to disturb or stop their nation from working and functioning? There are plenty of very potential SHTF events that are simply awaiting a catalyst to trigger them.

• The Non-Prepper (NP) has to realize right off the bat that 911 and other emergency calls in will be met with silence or some recording telling the caller not to panic.

•The (NP) that has no reliable self defense that can stop an attacker, will not get help from public services, and will become a victim of rape, assault, torture, or murder.

•The (NP) that has no reliable self defense and will not only be at the mercy of criminal elements, but also have to contend with many desperate animals, some with rabies.

•The (NP) that has no food will either have to find food or be ready to beg for food or worse, like sacrificing their bodies or other horrible acts or things to get a bite of food.

•The (NP) will have to go through the worst, most rancid conditions of garbage to just maybe find what they should have stored up.

•The (NP) will go through panic and near if not total psychosis looking for any water source right before their bodies begin shutting down during advanced stages of dehydration.

•The (NP) will go through unbearable trauma when their children and other people around them are crying, screaming, and suffering with intense hunger pains in their stomachs.

• The (NP) will have to deal with the awful stench of rotting wastes from many sources because they have not taken the effort to even store up waste disposal plastic bags.

•The (NP) will have disease and pathogens everywhere, not only because they have no trash disposal means, but because they haven’t prepared how to deal with trash and waste.

•The (NP) will have to live in very primitive conditions after things around them deteriorate rapidly, because they have neglected putting away anything to make life more bearable.

•The (NP) and those around them will likely develop all sorts of infective skin rashes from the lack of insight of storing up toilet paper. Imagine the smell for a moment.

•The (NP) will have to handle biting insects and other vermin that will collect amoungst the filth that will pile up. No pest control stored up along with no other supplies.

•The (NP) will have no way of treating sickness certain to follow a SHTF event, no first aid and likely no training or knowledge about how to treat the ill on top of this.

•The (NP) will have sick and dying people around them because of not being able to treat minor injuries. Didn’t even stock up on disinfectives. Unsanitary conditions lead to infection.

•The (NP) and others around them will experience much grief as they watch helplessly as their family members literally die of starvation right in front of their eyes.

•The (NP) won’t believe how desperate hunger drives them and those that mean everything to them to “trying” to eat food that taste so bad it gags them and comes back up.

•The (NP) will likely have family and friends around them that have also not prepared committing suicide because they can’t take it any longer.

•The (NP) will witness some of those people around them lose any sense of civilized humanity in them and behave like wild animals after some time from lack of necessities.

•The (NP) and family members, maybe friends also, will at some point end up barbecuing or eating raw the family dog, cat, bird, any pet dear to everyone for food.

•The (NP) will likely get into physical fights with other family members over any scrap of food available as rational thoughts are lost to wanton hunger.

•The (NP) as many other (NP’s) will eventually go out of any safety of their home looking for food and or water, become disorientated and lost, and die a hard death somewhere.

•The (NP) that is “lucky” enough to find some government help will likely have to almost sell their soul, probably all their freedom, to get tiny rations – just enough to keep them alive.

•The (NP) will see widespread violence and barbarism that will shock them to the core and will wish that they had purchased some form of firearm and stocked up on ammunition.

•The (NP) better get used to attempting to explain the children and other adults why they wasted all that money on junk, and didn’t buy any emergency food and other supplies.

•The (NP), no matter how positive they are will drop quickly into depression and lose willpower as having nothing to hold on to does this, along with lack of any nutrition.

•The (NP) will feel the worst guilt imaginable as they hear their family moaning in anguish from lack of anything to eat, knowing they could have done something to prepare.

•The (NP) will most likely not see the rebuilding and recovery after A SHTF event. They will, like almost all NP’s, be statistics. Some will die hours or a day before help arrives.

•The (NP) from lack of food, drinking bad water, no light at night, the horrid smells, no good self defense, the overall horror, will often be paralyzed with fear and despair, blank stare.

•The (NP) is totally helpless after SHTF, will have to rely totally on charity of those prepared to live. They will take all sorts of desperate measures likely to get them shot. They’ll attempt to eat hazardous foods like an animal trapped in a house will do, and get sick and suffer much before dying. The (NP) will likely die (ugly and hard) as they lived, unprepared for anything.

If we were to use one single word to describe the torments that someone who “chooses” not to prepare will go through after a true you know what hits the fan it would be “PREVENTABLE”.
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Yeah..its gonna be a laugh watching millions of fat arsed wobbly blubber laden merkans wobbling their way round the empty isles in walmart complaining that there are no more twinkies or pizza's.
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Yes...I try to tell these 'fat ass's' they better start trying to get into shape now or they're going to be a 'FAT' sitting duck!
It might be to late.
Everyone should start rationing their meal's to 1 and a 1/2 a day.
By the way...with 3/4 of Australia under water..those twinkies and pizza's are going to get a little soggy..Right mate?
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if you are to be one of the survivors, you will need help from higher ups. Outside forces will have to save people, whether God or extraterrestrials, but it will be divine help.
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If/when shtf, ya'll need to leave the cities asap. Even if its with nothing in tow. They'll be masses of people who'll stay in the city. That'll be one fucked-up situation, sad sites.
 Quoting: Brent pops 1373173

Yes that movie "Day After Tomorrow" is a flickin joke..You better start getting armed now!
There will be roving (drunk & high) gangs (w/weapon's) raping, sodomizing and murdering you and your family(know age limit)!...There will be no 911 because they will be home protecting their family!
You know what I'm talking about (you've seen these 'thugs' in action in just the past few weeks)and you better start getting a plan to protect you and your family ASAP!
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If/when shtf, ya'll need to leave the cities asap. Even if its with nothing in tow. They'll be masses of people who'll stay in the city. That'll be one fucked-up situation, sad sites.
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Yes that movie "Day After Tomorrow" is a flickin joke..You better start getting armed now!
There will be roving (drunk & high) gangs (w/weapon's) raping, sodomizing and murdering you and your family(no age limit)!...There will be no 911 because they will be home protecting their family!
You know what I'm talking about (you've seen these 'thugs' in action in just the past few weeks)and you better start getting a plan to protect you and your family ASAP!
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
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Re: How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper? - An Eye Opening Preview
I still can't believe some of you retards want to live through a catastrophic event. Yeah, life's gonna be great stepping over the dead bodies of the un-prepped. More power to ya, but I'm checking out w/ the xanax and bottles of vodka I keep as the SOLE ingredients in my prepping kit.

Come raid my house. You are welcome to whatever is left in my cabinets or whatever. I'll be in a much better place than you are though. Dumbasses.
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What are you waiting for? You know it's gonna happen so why hang around? Just do it now.
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05/16/2012 07:45 PM
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
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Nope. The potbellied pedophiles commanding the NWO will shoot your wife then take your kids underground and you will be sent out with a canteen of water, 50 rounds of ammo and some crackers to face the people who your government misled and abandoned.
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05/16/2012 07:47 PM
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What this article neglects to mention is that it may be a scenario the preppers didn't prep for that happens.
What if an asteroid hits and wipes out all of your prepped stock?
Or an ice age comes and freezes everything?
How about all the criminals who know you stocked up and want to take what you have?
Eventually you will be out of stock then what?
I'm not saying prepping isn't a good idea but you cannot prep for everything that could go wrong.
Considering the government has already passed the bill to confiscate your stock how long do you think you'll be able to keep it?
Personally I hope that whatever happens hits us so quick that we never felt it coming.
 Quoting: Awake but dreaming

^^that would be sweet.

or how about all the preppers who have bragged about all their preps/skills on boards like these...

the only thing you have to prep is your mind. you can stock as much preps as you want, does you no good if they get stolen or you can't get to them.


in the end, how you lived your life before whatever catastrophy befalls us will determine your survival success.

And surviving might not actually be the 'success'...

If you are living a life that is honorable and you have no hate in your heart, you've already succeeded... no need to fear the reaper.
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05/16/2012 07:50 PM
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All I want to know is when can I get a "I survived 2012" T-shirt?

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05/16/2012 07:53 PM
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
 Quoting: yep 14239351


Nope. The potbellied pedophiles commanding the NWO will shoot your wife then take your kids underground and you will be sent out with a canteen of water, 50 rounds of ammo and some crackers to face the people who your government misled and abandoned.
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no kids, but the wife is a hot commodity...just gonna have to have her burrowed in the ground ready to ambush people with the machete as they come to the house...cos lord knows i'll by busy lootin yall's houses. have a nice doom ;)
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05/16/2012 10:20 PM
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
 Quoting: yep 14239351


Nope. The potbellied pedophiles commanding the NWO will shoot your wife then take your kids underground and you will be sent out with a canteen of water, 50 rounds of ammo and some crackers to face the people who your government misled and abandoned.
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no kids, but the wife is a hot commodity...just gonna have to have her burrowed in the ground ready to ambush people with the machete as they come to the house...cos lord knows i'll by busy lootin yall's houses. have a nice doom ;)
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You can bet that she already has her own doom plans. At the drop of doom, some fat lesbian bike gang will drive by and grab her and they will chain you by the cock to their leader's 3-Wheeler and later roast you on a spitt whiled their driving their motorcycles in and out of your smiling wife.

heheh
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05/17/2012 12:47 AM
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Re: How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper? - An Eye Opening Preview
Static vs. Mobile Retreating

Having a house or a farm in a chaotic breakdown of civilization just makes you a target for any desperate gang who wanders by your place. The farther from population centers you have it, the less visible it is.

As has been a problem for people throughout the ages, if you have a permanent place to stay in a complete break-down or absence of law & order (& gov't) situation, you & your place will become a target. You should prepare to become your own police force in the absence of a regular police presence.

That means you and your friends & family need to fortify your location, and have more people with guns than the threats you are likely to face around you. A house stuck in the middle of Suburbia won't work. You need clear fields of fire all around to keep attackers far away from your location. Think BIG.

The American colonists did it by using improvised forts and soldiers & militia. The early Europeans did it with castles and militaries. If you want to stay in the open in a prolonged cycle of anarchy, that is what you must do. And if you can't afford to do that, then welcome to feudalism- find a benefactor that can afford to do it and join them.

This assumes your opponents don't have advanced military warfare capabilities. If they do, then you'll need to outmatch their firepower with your own. If you can't do that, then...

If, on the other hand, you can't build a personal fort, or join a militia, or you choose to keep to yourself or in a small group, then you must hide and prepare to stay mobile. This route requires you to travel light and fast. But you still need supplies, and you'll not likely have a ready way of getting resupplied reliably. In this case, you still need all your stocks, but you cannot afford to centralize their storage location, for security reasons. So then you will need to plan carefully for your area of intended operations, and pre-position caches in different locations. Store or bury supplies in areas no one ever goes to, but don't forget where you put them! That way, you can stay mobile and hidden, and only visit your caches when you need supplies. It's a very tough way to live, but it's your best chance of survival if you cannot properly defend a fixed location.

But moving around is risky. Movement draws attention, and staying mobile can get you detected by active searchers more easily than staying put & hidden. So I'd recommend mobility in the sense that you find a place to hide and stay there, but be prepared to evacuate at a moment's notice if you are in danger of being overrun. Of course you will want to set out sentries far enough away to give you an early warning if trouble comes your way. It's basically the same way bandits and moonshiners operated awhile ago. And it's the way small ground military units operate today.

Additionally, before the collapse and also while hidden, you can build secret hidden food production sources in your chosen habitat. You don't need a garden to plant vegetables. You can hide them throughout an area, mixed in with the native plant life. It's far from ideal, but it is do-able. Plus you can plant fruit trees in the woods too.

Research Permaculture for more info. on all this.

For meat, you can buy & loose food animals like rabbits, fish & guinea fowl into your Permacultured woods. They will breed continuously, but increase predators in the area too. But that's OK as predators can be trapped & eaten also. Pick animals with natural camouflage coats so they look wild to any outsider who sees one. You don't want domestic-looking animals running around. Of course you'll need to trap or hunt them, but at least having additional livestock around will help. The same idea applies with wild hogs,etc. And if you pick correctly, you don't have to feed them, as they'll survive on their own.


So these are your options:

1. Build or join a militia, fortify a stronghold (farm/ranch/community,) and prepare to mount a strong defense against hordes of both unorganized zombies and organized criminal & paramilitary gangs.

or

2. Stay small, light & mobile but hidden, living off your many scattered caches, concealed crops and locally stocked wildlife. (this technique can also work for a mobile militia too)

One thing's for sure: Going it alone, whether in the city, suburbs or countryside is not the most desired or successful plan for survival.
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05/17/2012 01:14 AM
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question, i live on a military post...should i even bother prepping/storing food/barricading the family?? i mean, we have guns :D
 Quoting: yep 14239351


Nope. The potbellied pedophiles commanding the NWO will shoot your wife then take your kids underground and you will be sent out with a canteen of water, 50 rounds of ammo and some crackers to face the people who your government misled and abandoned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16168934


no kids, but the wife is a hot commodity...just gonna have to have her burrowed in the ground ready to ambush people with the machete as they come to the house...cos lord knows i'll by busy lootin yall's houses. have a nice doom ;)
 Quoting: yep 14239351

Don't you know to never take a knife to a gun fight?

Anyone looting homes will face stiff resistance, despite whether or not they are wearing a uniform.
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05/17/2012 02:16 AM
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Can someone please educate me on the post it said we can survive on rice and tomato juice.I would love to hear more about this.I have never heard of this and it sure would simplify things.
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Can someone please educate me on the post it said we can survive on rice and tomato juice.I would love to hear more about this.I have never heard of this and it sure would simplify things.
 Quoting: Margaret 9470930


I've never heard of surviving on rice & tomato juice. The problem with that is that you need complete proteins to survive, and neither rice nor tomato juice have many proteins. And those few they do have are not complete.

They will have to be complimented with other proteins to create sustainable foods, such as meats, eggs, nuts, milk, beans, etc.





GLP