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Mainstream News Site Announces Energy Breakthrough

 
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They have announced 100's of so called breakthroughs over the years, none of them actuallly made it to the market. This one is no different. It's just a ploy to keep peoples hopes up and steal their money while they are still filling the tanks of their gasgusslers.
 Quoting: Vierkantebroek


this is era pf peak oil so these types of discoveries have to be announced.
global oil supplies are in severe decline despite all the claims.
nobody have verified oil fields of saudi arabia,iran etc.
nothing can replace crude oil,nothing.
even coal is not perfect anwer because you have to burn huge quantities of coal to produce energy
nuclear power is 10-100 times costly than crude oil..so it will not be economical
start planning your future
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But this was already done by a guy in California. Somehow, his lab "blew up" and it killed him right after he made his announcement that got like zero attention. I'll have to go back through the threads, because I know I read about it here.
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there could be free energy for everyone on earth, there have been talks about it since the 70's, the sheeple have no idea about it.

the only problem is, governments would not make money
electric companies would not make money.

so its not going to happen this lifetime....
 Quoting: JustAnotherVisitor


surely they will come up with some way to make money off this...
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As long as new inventions dont interfere with the tax dollar revenue collected by Big Bro then they will make it to market ,they will not allow anything to reduce their income -jmhobumppeace
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there could be free energy for everyone on earth, there have been talks about it since the 70's, the sheeple have no idea about it.

the only problem is, governments would not make money
electric companies would not make money.

so its not going to happen this lifetime....
 Quoting: JustAnotherVisitor


surely they will come up with some way to make money off this...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2348013


when money crashes, all this and more becomes reality.

infrastructure is in place, money has done its job.
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Good, start burning off these oceans. More land & fresh water.
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You don't use up the water. The end result is water again.
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SOMEONE TELL ME, where do they go? all these energy ideas disappear just like this one will, seriously... that is all.
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And they will all be dead by the end of the month. Oil companies don't like competition.
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No shit!
Gotta love profit margins
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LOL, did any of you actually read it?

"operating over long duration at the 10 Watt (W) scale. A 100 W unit is planned for completion by the end of 2012, and a 1.5 kiloWatt (kW) pilot unit that can serve the residential power market, as an initial target commercial application, is expected to be operational by 2013. (One kW is equal to 1000 W, and 1.5 kW is the typical, average power consumption of a U.S. home"


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 Quoting: BRIEF


every new technology needs time to reach its full potential. Look at the cost:

[link to www.blacklightpower.com]

sounds pretty good to me...
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05/23/2012 10:31 AM
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This thread is like an intelligence test. If you responded to it, assuming that it was true, that a "Mainstream News Site Announces Energy Breakthrough" then you've failed the test.

In case you're confused, and I assume if you believed this you are frequently confused, this was not a bit of news, but a "Press Release".

Websites like Market Watch (and ADVFN and a million others) publish corporate press releases without in fact testing that they are true. For extremely obvious reasons.

To protect themselves they clearly label them as "Press Release".

So how'd you do? Did you pass or fail?
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05/23/2012 10:34 AM
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There has been various research programs into this very area for many years, for those who think it's all came out of the blue.
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05/23/2012 10:41 AM
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"IEEE has a dual complementary regional and technical structure - with organizational units based on geography and technical focus. It manages a separate organizational unit (IEEE-USA) which recommends policies and implements programs specifically intended to benefit the members, the profession and the public in the United States.

IEEE is organized into:

333 local sections in 10 geographic regions;
more than 2,080 chapters comprised of local members with similar technical interests;
38 societies and 7 technical councils that compose 10 technical divisions;
nearly 2000 student branches at colleges and universities in 80 countries;
more than 530 student branch chapters."

[link to www.ieee.org]

"And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems upon its horns and blasphemous name upon its heads." (Rev. 13:1,RSV,1952)

Just a coincedence?
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"We present a wearable health system (WHS) for non-invasive and wireless monitoring of physiological signals. The system is made as an electronic patch where sensors, low power electronics, and radio communication are integrated in an adhesive material of hydrocolloid polymer making it a sticking patch. The patch is made with a reusable part and a disposable part which contains the adhesive material and the battery. This part is changed once every week. The patch has a size of 88 mm by 60 mm and a thickness of 5 mm. It is made for attachment on truncus or the greater muscle groups. The patch is demonstrated in two applications: Monitoring of electromyography (EMG) and arterial oxygen saturation by pulse oximetry (SpO2). The pulse oximetry sensor is made of a concentric backside Silicon photodiode with a hole in the middle for the two light sources. This makes it suitable for reflectance pulse oximetry. For the EMG application three standard dry silver electrodes are used separated by 10 mm."

[link to ieeexplore.ieee.org]

"...it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave to be marked on the right hand or the forehead..." (Rev. 13:16,RSV,1952)

Just another coincedence?
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05/23/2012 11:05 AM
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As much as I'm for free energy, I just can't see how it can work in the current economy-

Think of all the millions of people that work for big oil, where will they go?

Think of all the tax revenue generated from the oil economy....

Think of the impact on the stock market....
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05/23/2012 11:10 AM
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Yup, great news. Until Mobil or some other "big oil" company buys up the rights for "research" and it's shelved, never to be seen again.
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bump
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As much as I'm for free energy, I just can't see how it can work in the current economy-

Think of all the millions of people that work for big oil, where will they go?

Think of all the tax revenue generated from the oil economy....

Think of the impact on the stock market....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528419


Think about this. Saw a weather channel satellite photo of the air pollution over China caused by "big oil", the "oil economy". Think about the impact of that pollution on the lives of the Chinese people, and all the other people in large cities where they breath in these toxic chemicals from the combustion engine economy created by "big oil"! Number one cause of breathing related diseases in big cities is related to the "big oil" economy! How many people have suffered and died as a result of this wonderful economy? The air pollution from China drifts all the way over the Pacific Ocean and ends up where? Right here in the good ole USA! Gives meaning to the phrase what goes around comes around! Killing ourselves to live is what the human engineered economy does best!
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so basically...

he's created a fuel cell. but instead of turning oxygen and hydrogen into electricty...

he uses a catalyst to turn water vapor into...

hydrinos and oxygen. And the released energy is harnessed into electrical energy.

do i have this correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16083263


Reminds me of Kent talking about this many years ago, why are trying so hard to convert things into hydrogen when water is full of it already.

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 Quoting: MacElroy


It takes energy to turn water into hydrogen and oxygen. So theoretically we could have solar power plants that partly powered the electric grid, and stored energy in the form of hydrogen, to be transported. (gravity storage systems are the most efficient, safe, clean, etc for storing power. Almost 1-- percent efficiency)

However, its REALLY dangerous and uneconomical to transport hydrogen. That's the problem. It blows up. That's it.

So cars can't really run on water, or hydrogen.

Theoretically, all these claims about guys running cars on water... what they are claiming is that they did something to the water to make it burnable. Basically turning water into water-gasoline.

Why is this useful? Because its easy to transport.

However, it still takes energy to change the water into water-gasoline. You don't just magically get all this energy out of water. But the conversion process could happen at solar power plants.

There's another theory going around for using water. Catalyst theory. Basically there's LENR (colf fusion) claiming they use a catalyst to get some kind of energy from water. And then other people claiming if they could find the right catalyst and electrical resonance, then it actually takes less energy for hydrolysis than you get back.

I think the Catalyst theories hold a lot of promise as well. Catalysts are awesome. We use them in almost all useful chemical reactions anyway.

A catalyst is something that makes a reaction occur or occur better, without any detectable change to the catalyst.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16083263


You can and people do run cars on water, they don't blow up. They also don't advertise that they do it. You ever heard of
a steam engine?
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05/23/2012 11:49 AM
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And so it begins?
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It's a PRESS RELEASE.

Let's hope they can demonstrate a prototype that WORKS, whitout any shadow of doubt, and can be subjected to public independent testing, with live internet broadcasting.
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As much as I'm for free energy, I just can't see how it can work in the current economy-

Think of all the millions of people that work for big oil, where will they go?

Think of all the tax revenue generated from the oil economy....

Think of the impact on the stock market....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528419


Think about this. Saw a weather channel satellite photo of the air pollution over China caused by "big oil", the "oil economy". Think about the impact of that pollution on the lives of the Chinese people, and all the other people in large cities where they breath in these toxic chemicals from the combustion engine economy created by "big oil"! Number one cause of breathing related diseases in big cities is related to the "big oil" economy! How many people have suffered and died as a result of this wonderful economy? The air pollution from China drifts all the way over the Pacific Ocean and ends up where? Right here in the good ole USA! Gives meaning to the phrase what goes around comes around! Killing ourselves to live is what the human engineered economy does best!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16535332


Let me extrapolate. The human engineered "economy" is responsible for causing suffering, disease, and death, period. Its represented in the serpent biting its tail, the Oroboros! It creates and destroys itself in a perpetual cycle! This is NOT the Kingdom of God!
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LOL, did any of you actually read it?

"operating over long duration at the 10 Watt (W) scale. A 100 W unit is planned for completion by the end of 2012, and a 1.5 kiloWatt (kW) pilot unit that can serve the residential power market, as an initial target commercial application, is expected to be operational by 2013. (One kW is equal to 1000 W, and 1.5 kW is the typical, average power consumption of a U.S. home"


1rof1
 Quoting: BRIEF


every new technology needs time to reach its full potential. Look at the cost:

[link to www.blacklightpower.com]

sounds pretty good to me...
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


No...1.5 kilowatts (1,500 watts) will run a refrigerator and maybe a coffeemaker at once...

Last Edited by BRIEF on 05/23/2012 11:56 AM
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Uh huh....

and not to change the subject, but if someone could answer..

What has happened with the e-cat fusion thing-a-ma-jig promoted by the Italian dude and his public demonstrations last year?
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Uh huh....

and not to change the subject, but if someone could answer..

What has happened with the e-cat fusion thing-a-ma-jig promoted by the Italian dude and his public demonstrations last year?
1dunno1
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They bribed him...
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W. Henry Weinberg, who was a professor of Chemical Engineering, Chemistry and Applied Physics at California Institute of Technology for eighteen years, a professor of Chemical Engineering, Chemistry and Materials Science at University of California, Santa Barbara for six years, and co-founder and CTO of Symyx Technologies for 13 years.



Dr. K.V. Ramanujachary, Rowan University Meritorious Professor of Chemistry and Biochemistry.



Dr. Terry Copeland, former manager of product development for several electrochemical and energy companies including DuPont Company and Duracell.



Dr. James Pugh, Director of Technology at The ENSER Corporation.



Hmmmm....

Seems good...
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I don't know how viable any of this stuff is, but to those of you saying that hydrogen power can't work because it blows up....well, so does fucking gasoline.
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Uh huh....

and not to change the subject, but if someone could answer..

What has happened with the e-cat fusion thing-a-ma-jig promoted by the Italian dude and his public demonstrations last year?
1dunno1
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It's not a subject change, we are talking about problem and solution in energy...

Don't know about the Italian thingy, but what usually happens is the inventors end up realizing that their theory ends up requiring more energy than it puts out...and burning hydrocarbons is the cheapest and most abundant energy source...
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I don't know how viable any of this stuff is, but to those of you saying that hydrogen power can't work because it blows up....well, so does fucking gasoline.
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Gasoline is safe if not properly atomized with oxygen...you can't safely store hydrogen in the state that makes it ready to use on demand.
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so basically...

he's created a fuel cell. but instead of turning oxygen and hydrogen into electricty...

he uses a catalyst to turn water vapor into...

hydrinos and oxygen. And the released energy is harnessed into electrical energy.

do i have this correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16083263


Reminds me of Kent talking about this many years ago, why are trying so hard to convert things into hydrogen when water is full of it already.

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
 Quoting: MacElroy


It takes energy to turn water into hydrogen and oxygen. So theoretically we could have solar power plants that partly powered the electric grid, and stored energy in the form of hydrogen, to be transported. (gravity storage systems are the most efficient, safe, clean, etc for storing power. Almost 1-- percent efficiency)

However, its REALLY dangerous and uneconomical to transport hydrogen. That's the problem. It blows up. That's it.

So cars can't really run on water, or hydrogen.

Theoretically, all these claims about guys running cars on water... what they are claiming is that they did something to the water to make it burnable. Basically turning water into water-gasoline.

Why is this useful? Because its easy to transport.

However, it still takes energy to change the water into water-gasoline. You don't just magically get all this energy out of water. But the conversion process could happen at solar power plants.

There's another theory going around for using water. Catalyst theory. Basically there's LENR (colf fusion) claiming they use a catalyst to get some kind of energy from water. And then other people claiming if they could find the right catalyst and electrical resonance, then it actually takes less energy for hydrolysis than you get back.

I think the Catalyst theories hold a lot of promise as well. Catalysts are awesome. We use them in almost all useful chemical reactions anyway.

A catalyst is something that makes a reaction occur or occur better, without any detectable change to the catalyst.
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You dont have it right. The people claiming to have cars that run on water claim they have created a device which efficiently converts water into hydrogen (and oxygen) at a rate that is equal to the consumption ... "on demand" if you will so there is no serious risk of explosion. "Gasoline water" sounds like something out of a comic book.
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The solution to suppression is really simple: Open source the technology. Period!
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